Impeachment was never the real battle it was always about Senate driven consequences. In a Republican-controlled Senate, 'accountability' is a one-way street paved entirely for Democrats. Their majority exists to shield their own from justice while weaponizing procedure against the opposition. Until that imbalance is broken, consequences will remain a fantasy reserved only for the left.
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Fuck Fetterman that piece of shit.
If literally anyone thinks "it's okay that Trump bombed Iran, it was the right move"...
Then couldnt you just argue that "if it was such an obviously right move, wouldn't it have been easy to get congress to approve it?"
It's illogical to on one hand say it was the right thing to do, while ignoring the fact he did it without approval.
If it was so right, then approval would've been easy to get...?
Impeachment is specifically NOT a legal process but a political one. Trump's second impeachment acquittal was based on impeachment being a political process, and that the criminal justice system was the correct venue for J6.
That's also why the Justice department policy on not charging a sitting president and the SCOTUS ruling that Presidents are immune from prosecution are bullshit.
Only a rag would quote Fetterman and credit him as a Democrat. He doesn't act or believe what he did when he was elected as a Democrat, his perspective is irrelevant.
I've watched Fetterman's 180 from across the pond. Don't really understand what happened and what made him flip.
He had a stroke that damaged his brain.
So, I like this idea, and the recent expose indicates that the stroke has essentially rendered him non compis mentis, but do you really think the brain damage turned him conservative? Were there no red flags before? I genuinely don't know enough about the guy.
Stop spreading that. It's not true.
Fetterman was a shitty mayor before his current office. He chased after a blackman with a shotgun because the guy was simply jogging in his neighborhood. He vandalized local business in the middle of the night that he didn't like.
He firmly stated he was not progressive during his run for office. The Republicans labeled him a progressive librel to try and smear him. He was never progressive, ever. The stroke did not change his views. He is and always was a slimy politician .
They took him into a room and said "hey, do you want a mountain of legal bribes? If not, we will primary you with that same mountain"
Mussolini got dragged through the streets and him and his gf’s lifeless corpses were hung upside down for all of Rome to see.
Weird fact. Not sure why I’m thinking of it
There is an old quote -
"The plight of the oppressed ends with the oppressor. Mussolini found this to be true, as will others."
It was Milan. Though I'm sure the people of Rome were more than welcome to go see his bespatted husk.
Franco died peacefully in his sleep at the age of 83, a fabulously rich celebrity who was officially mourned by the state for a month.
The upside of that was that it put his fellow conspiritors off trying to follow in his footsteps.
Every day the Criminal in Chief commits impeachable crimes. Every. Day.
This is just the latest. But Congress is currently packed with illegitimate, undemocratically placed criminal cronies who face no accountability while shielding their criminal collaborators from accountability. So here we are.
Keep screaming impeachment when clearly that doesn't work.....he belongs in jail ya know for being a 34 count felon rapist seditionous traitor.
This one might actually stick since the Republican party is split over this.
You know that that also did not work, right?
Yes clearly.
America is a shit show. Americans have shown they are ok with this.
Those with the authority to do their jobs and jail trump willfully abdicated their responsibility to do so. Yeah, there absolutely is a subset of this population aggressively driving us toward an oligarchy and authoritarian kleptocracy, but the majority of American citizens would prefer to see the law upheld. We don’t want a three-tiered legal system, the bottom jails first and throws away the key, the middle bleeds you dry with legal costs, and the top has no rules or consequences.
Don't bunch us all up with the government. The government is ok with it being a shit show. Many voted against it. Many of us don't agree.
Assuming the election wasn't hacked, yeah...
I have my doubts about the election (and I'm a big data engineer with a cyber security cert)
traitor
Yeah, that's the problem with Trump, he's not a loyal patriot...
Israel is quite literally the world’s biggest terrorist nation state. The paper thin transparent spin tactics of Israel’s defenders would be amusing if the results of its terrorism wasn’t so horrifying.
I want him actually removed from office. He was already impeached. Twice! It didn't do anything.
Doesn’t matter they should still introduce the bill
Impeachment is how you do that...
The house brings articles of impeachment, and term it's up to the Senate to decide whether or not the president should be convicted, and thus removed from office
There's another way, a more powerful way. But I don't think the U. S. people has the resolve to do what their founding fathers did.
he’s been impeached. what’s another one gonna do except distract everyone while he continues to war?
If the senate actually has balls, they can remove him from office. Impeachment doesnt inherently carry consequences. The senate determines consequence
The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, "eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to... no punishment."
The older I get, the more I feel like the Senate is essentially the means through which corporations and the capital class defeat any popular movement. Our Constitution was written mostly by drunk, privileged, rich kids. I think sometimes you can really smell the disdain for lower classes in the way everything is built.
Caesar felt the same way.
Can't believe I lived to see the fall of the Republic and rise of the TACO Triumvirate 🥹
I guess, but I am referring more to that there should only be a House of Representatives, and that the Senate serves no purpose other than to represent corporate interests and tamp down on popular sentiment.
And I’m saying that Ancient Rome only had a senate (no house or senate branches) and their corruption reached a point to where the ideal of a dictator was an improvement over the status quo.
Many Americans thought this. But the best they could come up with was Trump???
No, the reason was Reds protecting their guy and refusing to hold him to account. Even if what you suggested were part of their motivation, the optics of Trump refusing accountability and literally being dragged out, hasn't been paying attention to the optics that Trump himself brings to the US and the GOP, specifically. It's a pretty shit justification.
The moment they decide he's removed, he has no authority to stop them from removing him. Sec Serv wouldn't listen to him. He'd be an 80 year old man hiding behind a door.
Well it's not like Congress is busy approving or funding a war. They've got time.
IMO this is business as usual thinking.
The left needs to push for a vote to get Congress on the record where they stand.
And even if it doesn't pass, getting some Republicans to vote yes would be a big win and a first step towards checking TACO.
One of like 1000 things he's done in the last few months that was either illegal, unconstitutional, "grounds for impeachment", or corrupt. 🥱
What are the 999 things he's done that are illegal, unconstitutional, corrupt or grounds for impeachment in the last few months?
Seriously, one would think with a file that big, collectivists would have reacted in some way, wouldn't they?
Just an FYI, there is a tracker of current legal cases against the trump admin (over 280 right now), and this doesn't include much of the daily illegal stuff he does (like this recent attack on another country).
The tracker also doesn't cover stuff like his scam phone, scam crypto, scam <insert any of the stuff he's selling>, threats of annexation of other countries, using the white house to sell teslas, arresting people he dislikes, and so on.
There's probably more than a 1000, now that I think about it. And this is all just from the beginning of the year. If you include his previous term, you could easily add a few hundred more. 🫢
So where are the thousand from the last few months?
I'm sure if I was paid enough to spend weeks compiling a list, I'd do it.
But what would that change for you? If you need more than the nearly 300 that are already filed in court (so far), then you probably won't be satisfied with a list of 1000, or 10,000.
Just observe the things he does, and ask yourself whether it's legal, unconstitutional, corrupt, or grounds for impeachment. You can add in unethical (but not illegal), if you like, but that would be like beating a dead horse.
For example, just a few hours ago, he posted about getting a "bum" out of office. That "bum"? A republican congressman who did not agree with the illegal act of bombing Iran. Firing someone for not agreeing with you breaking the law and oath to the constitution isn't how a democratic country operates.
You can find countless examples of this, on a daily basis.
Kendrick Lamar "It's not enough." I want him removed and charged for all the harm and civil rights violations and war crimes. No President has ever been held accountable, So you can start with him.
Nixon was. They could have impeached Clinton for Bosnia, but went with lying about adultery.
They could have impeached Clinton for Bosnia
Why? Forgive my ignorance, balkan history is hard.
He violated both UN and NATO charters, iirc. Imo, intervention was necessary, because the Serbs were ethnically cleansing the Croats and Muslims, and Western Europe was dragging feet, but he violated the law and badly mishandled the intervention.
I don't know for certain, but I think you might be mixing up Kosovo and Bosnia. Because I know he illegally (by international law) bombed Yugoslavia for the Kossovar Albanians (which some argue hastened and exacerbated the ethnic cleansing of the Albanians, which aligns quite well with the timeline, especially considering there was a concrete diplomatic alternatice proposed by both sides), but he got approval for this. Famously, Bernie Sanders voted in favor. So while it should earn him a trip to the Hague, he didn't violate any domestic laws that I'm aware of.
But again, Yugoslavia in the 90s is crazy complicated, and there's so much I don't know, so maybe I'm just completely wrong here.
No impeachments until they know they can get a conviction in the Senate, which is highly unlikely.
Besides, an impeachment only makes Peter Theil (Vance's leash holder) the president, then we're out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Theil is already president, and probably has been for longer than I care to imagine.
I don’t disagree that bombing Iran puts us at risk of starting a war we don’t want to be involved in. However I think the public is too split on the matter to put majority support behind impeachment.
Conservative circles themselves appear divided with some saying the display of force was necessary and avoided direct conflict (minimizing operational costs), some saying the President is authorized to conduct these actions under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, and some voicing dissent or disapproval altogether of this action.
The War Powers Resolution will probably be the loophole that conservative outlets use to claim that Trump has done nothing wrong. I don’t know if there’s been an exercise of this authority without congressional approval that has lead to the targeted country declaring war as a result. If this were to happen, maybe there will be clear grounds to impeach, but I don’t think the public will display a majority support for it to happen.
I agree that for practical purposes there is not the support for impeachment. But I do think that every unconstitutional thing he does should be called out with the simple but direct message that 'impeachment and removal is the only remedy to a corrupt and unconstitutional POTUS'. We should say that over and over and over so that takes on its own meaning and the public is ready for it when sentiment inevitably brings us to the point it is actually possible.
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