Oh that’s for damn sure

Wait until next spring when the shit really kicks in. Shorten it to IFTYS.

1/3 as shown by the votes and this poll. Those people are straight up dumb.

Do you really think the media is doing a good job of getting accurate and fair information to voters in an impartial way? Could we improve our electoral system to make it easier and more convenient for working people to vote?

So maybe instead of blaming people as individuals for failing to meet a systemic and worsening series of problems we should expect that our political leaders have some sort of plan for restoring democracy in a way that combats republican corruption.

Trump and Harris had record turnout in 2024. People voting for Trump against Harris in 2024 had a bigger effect than apathy for Clinton in 2016.

How do you think fascism happens? Voter apathy?

The crazy thing about the whole SNAP expiration thing is that that’s the “bread” of “bread and circus”. Circus is football. If he or someone in the admin would have made a specific point of making sure food benefits stayed in place, a lot more people would still be content to “stay out of politics” and march along like copacetic lemmings right off the fucking fascism cliff. So, in a dark sort of way… I think this might actually be good in the long run, though it will hurt (and perhaps kill) a LOT of people in the short term.

At the same time, who fucking knows. This is uncharted territory. Last time around, the fascists didn’t have a nuclear arsenal numbering in the thousands, nor did they formerly serve as one of the primary geopolitical lynchpins of democratic order.

Propaganda not only works, it’s been very well refined.

I'm in the top bracket, tax me more, the world gets better when you do

But also, frankly maybe tax wealth over work.

Work is productive to society, wealth is parasitic.

Property values (sensibly) go down with appropriate wealth tax.

i'm in the lowest tax bracket, but someday I'll be on the top... 🤦

I know what I'm about to say may get reactionary downvotes, but I think the answer is not overconfidence.

Let's get real. Jan 2021 until Dec 2024 was a rough time all around. Starting with COVID, then the supply chain disruptions that brought, then the bird flu with chickens and the impact on the cost of eggs, and Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the global impact on energy costs, and not to mention the whole rent-seeking, profit-taking megacorpo bullshit we're still living with, people struggled from 2021 through 2024. This struggle was what caused the Shitgibbon to win more than any overconfidence.

Democrats did themselves no favours, either. When Biden ran against the Shitgibbon, people got the impression he was a caretaker POTUS, someone who would stand up for Democracy in 2020 then run as a Lame Duck until 2024, when Team Blue would select the next generation for POTUS. Unfortunately, nobody stood up. Harris was invisible, and not the attack dog I expected her to be. None of the other Democrats stepped up, either. It was business as usual, not the 'Democracy in danger' moment they were portraying it as.

And their handling of Trump? Absolute dogshit. Trump skated on his 6 Jan 2021 crimes, and Death may well take him before Justice does. And obviously, the Dems wouldn't let him skate if what he did was so bad, right? That's what many voters, especially low information voters, think about the whole situation.

So, Fall 2024 rolls in, and you're the typical American voter: a knucklehead who can't see anything that's not directly in front of you, pulled a thousand different directions, and trying to decide what to mark on your ballot for President. Eggs are ridiculously expensive. So are so many other essential groceries. High fuel costs are still in the back of your mind. Your kids are duller and dumber thanks to missing the '21-'22 and '22-'23 school years, and you remember missing your friends at Church, the weekly hangout, and work/school those years. And man, those Dems said that Trump was a threat to Democracy and needed to be gotten out of office so America didn't die or such shit, then 4 years of doing jack and shit and he's back running for office, and you remember that groceries were affordable and you could fill up your car for cheap when Trump was in office, and now you can't do any of that, and so you say "Hey, how bad can he really be?" and you vote for him. 77.3 other knuckleheads join you for various reasons, including looking forward to the American Reich and putting those upity minorities back in their place, and bam. Trump 2.0. As the old saying goes, consider how stupid the average American is, then remember that half of Americans are dumber than the average American.

At least now, Trump's shortcomings are front and centre for a lot of American voters; enough so that 2/3rds of them are saying "yeah, we fucked up putting the Shitgibbon and his Merry Band of Miscreants back in." Small victories!

I think it's more that a huge chunk of the population have externally defined morality and thus are very malleable. Many many people do not enjoy the hard work of figuring out their own self-consistent views of right and wrong. So they let their culture define it for them, which the people in charge are more than happy to do. So when the prevailing culture told them it was wrong to be racist against black Americans, they believed it. And now that the culture they stew in tells them (e.g.) black Americans are lazy moochers, they believe that.

I mean, I'm not the original commenter and I don't think they're literally nazis myself. But ~39% of Americans have stood with Trump through both presidencies. When every poll (popularity, opinions on ICE, shutdown, etc.) seems to land around that same number, it means there is some consistent cohort there.

I lived in the US for nearly my whole life until I fled earlier this year specifically because of Trump's (and his supporters') threats against my communities. His administration is openly composed entirely of Nazis. Anyone who continues to support him is a Nazi, which currently sits at 39%. You don't openly call for the death of all Latino and trans people unless you're a Nazi. So yes, that 39% is all Nazis.

Typical

What's it about?

Ronald Regan

Two inflection points:

1.) When every Confederate politician & officer wasn't hanged by the neck until dead.

2.) When Nixon wasn't prosecuted for Watergate.

Since bush that I can remember, but probably before that.