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[–] 64 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Heavily depends on how well it is prepared, as brocolli reacts not in a good way to a suboptimal cooking process.

Vegetables provided by child catering services tend to be overcooked, because of keeping them warm.
While that is fine for e.g. carrots, it converts brocolli into a textureless pulpy or even slightly watery-slimy stuff.

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  • [+] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fwiw it's not just child catering. The trend for the parents of baby boomers was very often to just boil the shit out of vegetables, even at home. And many of those boomers would in turn keep doing that as they had kids of their own.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Roasting vegetables only became a (semi) widespread thing in the '90s. It sounds stupid but before the '80s the idea of chucking broccoli in a stove pan or oven just wasn't part of the Western home cooking canon - that was reserved for meat.

    I definitely remember that was still the norm for my GenX parents in the 2000s and they only started properly roasting vegetables on occasion in the 2010s. Though at least they'd use generous amounts of sauce so we always enjoyed our vegetables.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Honestly, this explains a lot. I always had access to "healthy" snacks as a kid so there'd always be things like baby carrots and raw broccoli with buttermilk ranch dressing, and I learned to really like it. Fresh broccoli is delicious, and when you lightly cook it and add a splash of cheese...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not just keep them warm! Children are considered like, part of the group that food must be cooked to higher temperatures to keep them safe, like the elderly and the immune compromised. So some foods suck ass when cooked like that! Or so my food manager safety quiz told me. Well it told me about the higher temps. It also told me about turtles carry salmonella and a lot about typhoid mary.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That really just means they can't have raw/undercooked meat, the temp to which veggies are cooked and held is unaffected by the age of their intended consumer. Edible raw veggies are more nutritional than cooked for all ages. No one in the food service industry cooks things to different temps based on age, that would make cooking at a restaurant sooooo much more confusing.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Everything changed when I had to start cooking for myself.

    Turns out, my parents didn't know how to cook broccoli. Or... Most vegetables really. Real steak'n'taters folks.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Yes and no. Broccoli, like a lot of other veg, contains bitter flavors that kids can still taste, but adults can't. So, for them it may actually taste horrible, even if it is delicious for you.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Broccoli is one of the less bitter vegetables. Kids tend to like it. I think kids don't like overcooked tasteless broccoli.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Huh. I wonder why humans would just happen to be born with the propensity to hate something good for them only to lose that propensity later in life. Like, would there be some evolutionary advantage? Maybe there are toxic plants that contain those bitter compounds and children who don't eat them survive to pass on their genes but adults who have lived and learned what not to eat don't need the same bitterness feedback, so humans evolved to lose it later? Or maybe I'm making stuff up and it's just one of god's practical jokes on humans like when we bite our tongue while chewing.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don’t know where I heard or read it, so take my explanation with a grain of salt. Most poisons taste bitter, so avoiding bitter tasting things means avoiding poisonous things. Since children have a smaller body weight, the lethal dose is smaller for them. As go grow older, your body mass increases and so does your tolerance to poisons. But I am not sure why we would not want to avoid poisons in general even if they were not lethal any more.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Because some plants use small amounts of those poisons to avoid being eaten. So losing some of the aversion to the taste gives you a wider variety of food sources once you can tolerate the poison enough.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Kids have double the taste buds, they taste everything more. #TheMoreYouKnow

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Having a kid who always ate broccoli since solid foods were introduced, I think it comes down to more of what options the kids have available, and what their taste buds expect.

    A lot of "kid food" marketed to parents is sugar filled, processed shelf stable stuff. If you give your kid "fruit snacks" and Teddy Grams as part if their daily food, of course they're going to think broccoli or other veg is disgusting.

    So even if they have "double the taste buds" (something that I've never seen or heard a doctor tell me in all these years), but even if that's true, if the palate is used to sugar/ultra-palatable foods, yeah, broccoli will taste like shit.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I recently forgot my broccoli on the stove and finally understood why there are people who don't like it.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    I always assumed it was because the writers didn't know how to cook and had only ever eaten over boiled broccoli that has no flavour left, instead of garlic and chili roasted broccoli.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Think it comes down to how it's prepared, I love me some raw broccoli with some vegi dip, or roasted with some light oil and s/p. When I grew up I only had it offered steamed or boiled and it was awful.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Our parents didn’t have the internet, there were barely any cooking shows and cookbooks, while plentiful, didn’t lend themselves well to the daily grind that was increasingly taking up their time.

    We got professional chefs on YT showing how to make “Michelin Star broccoli” in 30-second shorts and grocery stores that offer all the stuff we might need.

    In other words, our parents were in the dark about cooking, relative to us.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Broccoli and cauliflower are the only foods I detest. I hate their taste. I hate how they feel in my mouth. And I hate their smell.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Bro that was me my whole life. Never understood kids not eating brocolli and peas cuz i always loved em ha

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I didn't like broccoli much just because my mom made that broccoli, cauliflower, carrot mix of steamed vegetables for like every single meal she cooked. No seasoning or anything just plain steamed vegetables and whatever plain protein/canned pasta. I got so sick of it. I'll eat it but it's not something I would ever ask for.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I find broccoli discorse fascinating, because it seems like there's a lot of people who feel the need to shower it in praise because it's the default "eww vegies suck" vegetable.

    IMO broccoli is ok. it's like median tastiness veg. Makes some dishes good, makes others suck.

    But if you look at the dishes where broccoli is good, it's always something along the lines of "we lathered this in cheese" or "dunked in salty oil and roasted". It's good and the broccoli definetely makes it better, but I also question if you just like cheese and oil.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    That's a pretty safe bet, given that oil is a great flavour conductor helping flavour remain on the tongue longer, and cheese being a cultured product brings a lot of complex umami flavours to the table.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    dunked in salty oil and roasted

    You're describing the most basic of seasoning and cooking. That's a weird position to take, that you don't really like a food unless you eat it raw and unseasoned.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    dunked in salty oil and roasted

    Most people prefer their food cooked and seasoned, yes (if you call salt seasoning). That said, you can eat it raw if you so prefer.

    I honestly think the stem is the best part. I love gai lan for that reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah, raw broccoli still sucks ass if it's not slathered in dip/dressing, and unfortunately cooking vegetables destroys most of the nutritional benefits. Cooked broccoli is delicious, but it's essentially just excess carbs at that point.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In Japan, it's piiman which is a type of small green bell pepper

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    cooked broccoli tastes like the farts they make.

    steamed broccoli is lovely with some lemon pepper.

    fresh broccoli is great with some ranch or sourcream dip.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Steamed broccoli is cooked broccoli.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    there's steamed and then there's cooked.

    cooked being soft mushy and slimey.

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    My suspicion is that a lot of young (American) people have only ever had canned, or horrifically overcooked veggies and conclude on that basis that veggies suck. My SO thought she didn't like green beans until she was 19 and had the ones my dad made and was like "Wait... Why aren't these mushy?".

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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    That’s also because the Brussels sprouts older generations grew up on and the ones they sell now are not the same thing. They are significantly less bitter than a few decades ago due to selective breeding.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The other big difference is that people actually know how to cook these days.

    The brussel sprouts I got force-fed every Christmas as a child were boiled, slimy, plain and gross.

    The Brussels I cook these days are cut in half, then tossed in olive oil with salt and black pepper, and oven baked to caramelise the insides and char the leaves a little for that yummy browning. Delicious!

    It's no wonder people hate something when they never tried the good version of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    How far back does that go? I can remember liking them as far back as the early 80s.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It all comes down to two things. The first is timing, because broccoli is best when blanched and not fully cooked, with an appropriate amount of salt and (optionally) nutmeg. The second is deception, because even the pickiest child will eat broccoli when it's covered with some buttery sauce, like butter and breadcrumbs heated in a pan.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I'm in my 40s, and Brocolli (and all other cruciferous brassica) still smells and tastes like farts to me. It smells/tastes less like farts than it used to, but the overall flavour is still farts. My partner doesn't smell/taste it the same as I do, so we eat it quite often.

    As an adult, I just accept that "sometimes, part of my dinner will taste of farts" and move on with life.

    As someone else mentioned, many people taste all the foulness and bitterness in these things when they're younger, but as their taste buds age/deteriorate/mature, the foul/bitter flavour can't be detected any more. In other people, they could never taste it, and in others they will always taste it.

    In my case, I look at how much I enjoy the taste of blue cheese or beer, compared to how "yucky" they were when trying them as a child.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I just don't care for the texture of it. The flower part of it is completely fine and tasty, but I hate how the stem feels and crunches in my mouth and doesn't taste good either.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't like broccoli... I've tried it in several ways, it's not to my taste

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    it just doesn't taste like much

    crunchy is nice, but it makes a mess

    steamed is great texture, but little flavour without adding to it

    it's not like carrots that are delicious both ways without adding anything

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I love broccoli. Steamed, grilled, whatever. It's good. Toss in a sauce, hell yeah. A touch of butter? Delicious. Mm hm.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Broccoli is mid, at its best.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yes, I'm a vegetable enjoyer, and I don't have a major problem with broccoli, but definitely not a great testing vegetable. They don't have a nice bite like radishes. In addition, the texture isn't great. Celery and carrots have a satisfying crunch, bell peppers and cucumbers are nice and juicy. IMO the best thing that broccoli has going for it is that it has a lot of surface area to pick up dips, sauces, etc. But, on its own, it's not great.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Boiled broccoli is terrible!
    Steamed broccoli is great!

    You don't need to add extra stuff on correctly steamed broccoli.

    Brussels sprouts however, are just bad. No way to cook them that doesn't taste awful. They should be the childhood horror vegetable.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Cut the sprouts in half, brush lightly with something flavorful (olive oil and salt works, but bacon grease is another option) and roast until crispy on the outside. They're amazing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fun fact this is actually new! A Dutch scientist, Hans van Doorn, identified the specific chemicals that cause bitter taste and very quickly bred the bitterness out of modern cultivars

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