The new 8bitdo Pro 2 gamepads have hall effect stick, a symmetrical layout and are available in Europe. Made in China, though. I have … some of them. Love especially the translucent purple one.
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Seconding this one. Legitimately the best casual use controllers I've ever used. Does everything it needs to, works flawlessly out of the box, offers plenty of customization for those who want to dive deeper, and just feels great to use.
I've had good experiences with 8bitdo. There's this one that looks more reminiscent of a SNES controller, but has the layout you're looking for.
8Bitdo Pro 2 is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Not entirely sure where they're made, but I'm pretty sure they sell to Europe. On Linux, you'd have to follow these instructions to do firmware updates, since their update tool only works on Mac and Windows. I have a 8Bitdo SN30 Pro+ and its been perfectly fine on Linux.
As an aside, if you, or anyone reading this is comfortable with soldering. Gulikit sells Hall Effect Sticks that can be retrofit into both the Dualshock 4 and the Dualsense, if you're looking for that Playstation stick layout. (I believe Gulikit also provides the hall effect sticks that 8bitdo uses)
This may be a dumb question, but any idea why you would want/need to update the firmware of these controllers?
Haven't had any issues with the 8Bitdo, but I also have a Gulikit King Kong 2 that when it was new, had some issues with how the accelerometers worked when playing Switch games that eventually got fixed with a firmware update. It was kinda hard to play Splatoon 3 for a bit until it was updated. So i'd say the firmware updates are for stuff like that
Well, the Playstation layout is severely limiting. I recently bought a GameSir Tarantula and it's really awesome, but it only has Xbox/Switch physical layout.
It can present itself as a Playstation controller to the system, though, so it will be detected as such, but the physical buttons won't match. But if you don't need that and are more interested in games recognising you have a PS controller, it could work for you.
I use it with my Steam Deck, so it works well for Linux.
I want the PS layout. I don't care how the system recognizes it so long as it just works.
Which one did you buy? I have the tarantula pro and it has the playstation layout
Tarantula Pro as well. It doesn't have PS layout, though. How did you achieve that?
When looking for the Tarantula Pro, this is what shows up:
https://gamesir.com/collections/all-products-1/products/gamesir-tarantula-pro
Yes, that's the one I have, it has Xbox/Switch layout. Or are you seeing something different?

This is what I see
Well, that's not a Playstation layout.
Are you referring to the face buttons? When people talk about Xbox vs playstation layout they refer to the left side joystick/d-pad positioning
Yeah, I was talking about the face buttons.
"PlayStation" or "xbox" layout has never been referred to merely the face buttons until now.
What is meant by "layout" is... Well... The layout. Where the buttons and the sticks are. The PlayStation layout is symmetrical. The xbox layout is lopsided, with the left stick abd the d-pad switched around.
A lot less talked about is also the Gamecube layout, again not merely referring to the style of face buttons but their physical layout.
DualSense or a Logitech F310 (F710 if you need wireless).
The Logitech controllers are solid, sturdy, use the PSX layout (they're designed after the OG dualshock), and inexpensive.
Idk what kind of sensors they use, but I've had my F310 since they launched and it's still in perfect condition.
DualSense doesn't use hall effect sensors, but I've also had these for 3+ years now, used daily, no issues. But you can replace the sensors if you want to.
The adaptive triggers and haptics on Dualsense are incredible… when it’s supported. Which is almost never. But games like Returnal and Pacific Drive are unplayable to me without using a Dualsense after seeing what it’s like.
Wouldn't recommend them for a submarine tho
I never had stickdrift before having the DualSense controller.
Still, otherwise it’s a lovely controler and the second one works fine.
I've had my F310 for close to ten years now. It still works pretty good.
I still love the dualshock 3. Recently bought two more from ebay because my first one is half broken.
How do you recognize fakes?
I don't know about shipping to Europe but GameSir has the Tarantula Pro which I have, and despite being partial to the Xbox layout I've been enjoying. I know 8bitDo also has a Playstation style controller with hall effect sticks and that people who have tend to like them, but I don't have one so I can't comment on it
I feel your pain. I'm a big fan of the PS controller design as well. This isn't a serious recommendation as I haven't done it yet myself, but your best bet may just be to buy a PS5 controller with some HAL effect replacement sticks.
(Just using Amazon as an example, there are probably cheaper/better European options but it looks like a 2-pack would run you about $14USD / €12) https://www.amazon.com/PS5-Hall-Effect-Joystick-Replacement-2-Pack/dp/B0DN8T9KJW
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/DualSense+Joystick+Replacement/142488
Be warned as it looks like in order to do the replacement you'll need to desolder the old sticks and solder in the new ones.
This'll probably be my plan, one day, but I suck at soldering so I'm likely going to find a friend to do it for me and bribe them with some beer.
Yeah, I know that replacing the sticks on a PS controller is a soldering job, but I don't have a soldering kit.
It was actually my first idea; get a soldering kit, get some hall effect sticks, repair my DS4 controller. But I don't actually have a place to put a soldering kit, I have no skill with soldering, and I can't justify buying a soldering kit just for this one project.
If you can solder (or know somebody that can) and your PS4 controller is in good shape otherwise, there are hall effect stick replacements available for PS4 controllers.
Yep, this was my first thought. But I don't know how to solder, I don't have a soldering kit, and I don't have any place to put it. I can't justify buying a whole soldering kit if I'm using it for this project alone; it'll be more expensive than just buying a new controller where the problem wont happen anymore.
I have the Retrofighters BattlerGC Pro, this is the Playstation layout equivalent:
https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/defender-pro-wireless-gamepad/
Hall effect sticks, Bluetooth support, 2.4ghz dongle, excellent buttons. The BattlerGC Pro is the best controller I've ever owned. If this Playstation style controller is even close to as good you won't be disappointed.
Edit: they also have this mini controller, and this one is currently available, whereas that more deluxe one is a pre-order shipping in January.

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