If you don't need traffic data, CoMaps (uses OpenStreet Map data).

If you do need traffic data (understandable) Magic Earth is what I use. It's unfortunately not fully open source, only the map data is from OSM, but I find the navigation good 95% of the time, sometimes you have to make your own judgement for if a route might have bad traffic. At least it's not Google or Apple, and no ads.

I don't do car play, so I have no idea about how that works.

I wish we had better alternatives or that cars all exploded and we went to public transport and walkable cities

I don't use maps often but what's been going wrong in Google maps? I know whatever Uber/Lyft was using was having a hard time keeping up with local changes (bridges being shut down for months would stay on every driver's directions), they'd switch to Google to get an accurate map

OrganicMaps isn't.

they did pay 1000$+ phones just to have ads on it.

OsmAnd Maps, Organic Maps, and Co Maps are all worth looking at.

• !CoMaps@sopuli.xyz
• !organicmaps@sopuli.xyz
• !openstreetmap@lemmy.ml

Wanting to mention CoMaps and that it was forked from Organic Maps.

The projects aren't very diverged yet so you can still migrate your pins with an easy export/import

Organic Maps is so fucking good, I keep so much of it downloaded as a backup for when I'm offline, because it just works. That said, I still use Google maps due to the reviews of businesses and traffic data when navigating normally, but it's good to know a great alternative is out there.

I just need to contribute to a few more towns in Openstreetmap and Apple Maps is gone from my phone.

The thing is, Apple getting worse is coinciding with everything else getting worse, too.

Steve Jobs, for all his other problems, knew how to run a company and held to the idea that they needed to make good products. He kept the prices fairly low for what they were, and they even decreased over time for many of their products. He wouldn’t allow unfinished products to be released which is a big reason why I always laughed at Android people who claimed “first” with their buggy, shitty versions of the reliable thing Apple made a couple years later.

But then for some reason he let Tim Cook, who had been an idiot at Apple for a long time and Job’s knew it, take over. Since then prices have sky-rocketed and the company has started releasing stuff that just isn’t up to the standards they held in the past. He even took power away from the guy who had come up with Apple’s iconic aesthetic.

Whether or not people want to admit, Apple made excellent products and the customers aren’t nearly as stupid as people want to believe. So when shit like this happens we understandably get pissed because, surprise, many of us actually have been paying attention.

or at least something I can install on a Google pixel

Sundar Pichai: "Huh, well I guess we'll just follow Tim Apple's lead and start injecting ads in google maps and anyone who uses google maps API too."