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[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 37 points 1 year ago (26 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (24 children) 2026 is the year of the Linux phone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (23 children) More like 2026 + 10, Linux phones are severely lagging behind, enough so that they are at least 10 years away from having enough adoption for banks and the like to recognize their existence, the annoying truth is that it cannot be mainstream until it is able to use these critical apps with no workarounds as "it works but isn't allowed" will be the death knell of any amount of mainstream appeal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (9 children) I'm so tired of hearing people cry about banking apps. If you've got a working web browser you'll survive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (7 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Text, email or authenticator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) I use capital ones website on graphene OS and have full access even to temporary cards and all that. It didn't want to play nice with Vanadium so I had to use Brave browser just for the banking stuff. I have a friend who uses cashapp and chase banking that way as well. Only thing that doesn't work is tap to pay and its only because Google are dicks and won't allow it. Small price to pay to not have one of their spyware loaded versions of android on the phone though in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What is your 2fa method, I cannot sign in to the website without it and the only options I have been presented are SMS and app verification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I do SMS however before I had this phone I had a regular stock android phone with the Capital One app on it and I wonder if yours isn't working maybe you can use the app on a stock android and set up SMS verification on that, then switch to the other non stock androids phone and I bet it will work. You might not have to take this step, but if it isn't working with SMS verification on the Brave browser try that and see if it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 year ago (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) one of the reasons mobile phone theft is so lucrative, because people are so obliging to keep their entire financial information downloaded to a single device [Citation needed] The most common reason for mobile phone theft is to wipe it and sell it, or just dismantle it for parts. No common thief is going to be trying to break into an iPhone's security system to get to someone's banking data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Even if they manage to keep the phone unlocked, and even if they manage to get to a safe spot before I am able to lock the device remotely, they still can't access any banking applications because they require the PIN/biometrics to get in, even on an unlocked phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago It's amazing how Americans love poking their nose into everyone else's affairs yet can be so oblivious. For some people a phone is literally the only device they have, they can't do anything else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kahizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If their bank is anything like my bank, you NEED to have the mobile app installed to login with for online banking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children) The standard for banks like capital one is, in order to login in a browser you must use their app 2fa, they do not support third party 2fa methods, and their app doesn't work under compatibility layers. That last part may come with a workaround, but my earlier point is that the normal end user wouldn't feel comfortable using such a thing if it is not officially allowed. They also claim you can use 2fa by SMS, but that is first and foremost wrong since it isn't an option for payment portals, and secondly insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago I'm this close to getting a fucking TomTom. I need something that can do turn by turn navigation in a car, ideally through Android Auto, but nothing good goes on Android Auto anymore. How long until we crack this protocol anyway so we can use Linux phones with Android Auto? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (24 children) 2026 is the year of the Linux phone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (23 children) More like 2026 + 10, Linux phones are severely lagging behind, enough so that they are at least 10 years away from having enough adoption for banks and the like to recognize their existence, the annoying truth is that it cannot be mainstream until it is able to use these critical apps with no workarounds as "it works but isn't allowed" will be the death knell of any amount of mainstream appeal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (9 children) I'm so tired of hearing people cry about banking apps. If you've got a working web browser you'll survive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (7 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Text, email or authenticator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) I use capital ones website on graphene OS and have full access even to temporary cards and all that. It didn't want to play nice with Vanadium so I had to use Brave browser just for the banking stuff. I have a friend who uses cashapp and chase banking that way as well. Only thing that doesn't work is tap to pay and its only because Google are dicks and won't allow it. Small price to pay to not have one of their spyware loaded versions of android on the phone though in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What is your 2fa method, I cannot sign in to the website without it and the only options I have been presented are SMS and app verification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I do SMS however before I had this phone I had a regular stock android phone with the Capital One app on it and I wonder if yours isn't working maybe you can use the app on a stock android and set up SMS verification on that, then switch to the other non stock androids phone and I bet it will work. You might not have to take this step, but if it isn't working with SMS verification on the Brave browser try that and see if it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 year ago (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) one of the reasons mobile phone theft is so lucrative, because people are so obliging to keep their entire financial information downloaded to a single device [Citation needed] The most common reason for mobile phone theft is to wipe it and sell it, or just dismantle it for parts. No common thief is going to be trying to break into an iPhone's security system to get to someone's banking data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Even if they manage to keep the phone unlocked, and even if they manage to get to a safe spot before I am able to lock the device remotely, they still can't access any banking applications because they require the PIN/biometrics to get in, even on an unlocked phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago It's amazing how Americans love poking their nose into everyone else's affairs yet can be so oblivious. For some people a phone is literally the only device they have, they can't do anything else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kahizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If their bank is anything like my bank, you NEED to have the mobile app installed to login with for online banking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children) The standard for banks like capital one is, in order to login in a browser you must use their app 2fa, they do not support third party 2fa methods, and their app doesn't work under compatibility layers. That last part may come with a workaround, but my earlier point is that the normal end user wouldn't feel comfortable using such a thing if it is not officially allowed. They also claim you can use 2fa by SMS, but that is first and foremost wrong since it isn't an option for payment portals, and secondly insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (23 children) More like 2026 + 10, Linux phones are severely lagging behind, enough so that they are at least 10 years away from having enough adoption for banks and the like to recognize their existence, the annoying truth is that it cannot be mainstream until it is able to use these critical apps with no workarounds as "it works but isn't allowed" will be the death knell of any amount of mainstream appeal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (9 children) I'm so tired of hearing people cry about banking apps. If you've got a working web browser you'll survive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (7 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Text, email or authenticator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) I use capital ones website on graphene OS and have full access even to temporary cards and all that. It didn't want to play nice with Vanadium so I had to use Brave browser just for the banking stuff. I have a friend who uses cashapp and chase banking that way as well. Only thing that doesn't work is tap to pay and its only because Google are dicks and won't allow it. Small price to pay to not have one of their spyware loaded versions of android on the phone though in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What is your 2fa method, I cannot sign in to the website without it and the only options I have been presented are SMS and app verification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I do SMS however before I had this phone I had a regular stock android phone with the Capital One app on it and I wonder if yours isn't working maybe you can use the app on a stock android and set up SMS verification on that, then switch to the other non stock androids phone and I bet it will work. You might not have to take this step, but if it isn't working with SMS verification on the Brave browser try that and see if it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 year ago (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) one of the reasons mobile phone theft is so lucrative, because people are so obliging to keep their entire financial information downloaded to a single device [Citation needed] The most common reason for mobile phone theft is to wipe it and sell it, or just dismantle it for parts. No common thief is going to be trying to break into an iPhone's security system to get to someone's banking data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Even if they manage to keep the phone unlocked, and even if they manage to get to a safe spot before I am able to lock the device remotely, they still can't access any banking applications because they require the PIN/biometrics to get in, even on an unlocked phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago It's amazing how Americans love poking their nose into everyone else's affairs yet can be so oblivious. For some people a phone is literally the only device they have, they can't do anything else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kahizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If their bank is anything like my bank, you NEED to have the mobile app installed to login with for online banking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children) The standard for banks like capital one is, in order to login in a browser you must use their app 2fa, they do not support third party 2fa methods, and their app doesn't work under compatibility layers. That last part may come with a workaround, but my earlier point is that the normal end user wouldn't feel comfortable using such a thing if it is not officially allowed. They also claim you can use 2fa by SMS, but that is first and foremost wrong since it isn't an option for payment portals, and secondly insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (9 children) I'm so tired of hearing people cry about banking apps. If you've got a working web browser you'll survive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (7 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Text, email or authenticator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) I use capital ones website on graphene OS and have full access even to temporary cards and all that. It didn't want to play nice with Vanadium so I had to use Brave browser just for the banking stuff. I have a friend who uses cashapp and chase banking that way as well. Only thing that doesn't work is tap to pay and its only because Google are dicks and won't allow it. Small price to pay to not have one of their spyware loaded versions of android on the phone though in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What is your 2fa method, I cannot sign in to the website without it and the only options I have been presented are SMS and app verification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I do SMS however before I had this phone I had a regular stock android phone with the Capital One app on it and I wonder if yours isn't working maybe you can use the app on a stock android and set up SMS verification on that, then switch to the other non stock androids phone and I bet it will work. You might not have to take this step, but if it isn't working with SMS verification on the Brave browser try that and see if it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (7 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Text, email or authenticator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) I use capital ones website on graphene OS and have full access even to temporary cards and all that. It didn't want to play nice with Vanadium so I had to use Brave browser just for the banking stuff. I have a friend who uses cashapp and chase banking that way as well. Only thing that doesn't work is tap to pay and its only because Google are dicks and won't allow it. Small price to pay to not have one of their spyware loaded versions of android on the phone though in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What is your 2fa method, I cannot sign in to the website without it and the only options I have been presented are SMS and app verification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I do SMS however before I had this phone I had a regular stock android phone with the Capital One app on it and I wonder if yours isn't working maybe you can use the app on a stock android and set up SMS verification on that, then switch to the other non stock androids phone and I bet it will work. You might not have to take this step, but if it isn't working with SMS verification on the Brave browser try that and see if it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Text, email or authenticator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) I use capital ones website on graphene OS and have full access even to temporary cards and all that. It didn't want to play nice with Vanadium so I had to use Brave browser just for the banking stuff. I have a friend who uses cashapp and chase banking that way as well. Only thing that doesn't work is tap to pay and its only because Google are dicks and won't allow it. Small price to pay to not have one of their spyware loaded versions of android on the phone though in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What is your 2fa method, I cannot sign in to the website without it and the only options I have been presented are SMS and app verification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I do SMS however before I had this phone I had a regular stock android phone with the Capital One app on it and I wonder if yours isn't working maybe you can use the app on a stock android and set up SMS verification on that, then switch to the other non stock androids phone and I bet it will work. You might not have to take this step, but if it isn't working with SMS verification on the Brave browser try that and see if it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What is your 2fa method, I cannot sign in to the website without it and the only options I have been presented are SMS and app verification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I do SMS however before I had this phone I had a regular stock android phone with the Capital One app on it and I wonder if yours isn't working maybe you can use the app on a stock android and set up SMS verification on that, then switch to the other non stock androids phone and I bet it will work. You might not have to take this step, but if it isn't working with SMS verification on the Brave browser try that and see if it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I do SMS however before I had this phone I had a regular stock android phone with the Capital One app on it and I wonder if yours isn't working maybe you can use the app on a stock android and set up SMS verification on that, then switch to the other non stock androids phone and I bet it will work. You might not have to take this step, but if it isn't working with SMS verification on the Brave browser try that and see if it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I mentioned it elsewhere in the comments, but in my experience, payment portals have redirected me to a verification page that has two options app verification and customer support, even though I have SMS setup. I contacted capital one and the rep said it was working as intended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Have you tried the above yet? Try it. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Have you tried the above yet? Try it. I fail to see how it would help, the issue arises when I try to use a payment portal like there is for caixa bank transactions, SMS is a valid way for me to sign in to my account, but not to confirm a payment. And if that doesn't work contact their customer service and say you don't have the option to use another device and you need to set up SMS verification or you're going to have to consider another card. I bet it will work. I would have to disagree with your take, their customer service is 80% ai and 20% call center, none of the people you would talk to care or have the power to answer a threat like this. I appreciate the ideas, but at the moment I don't see a way of getting around my issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 year ago (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) one of the reasons mobile phone theft is so lucrative, because people are so obliging to keep their entire financial information downloaded to a single device [Citation needed] The most common reason for mobile phone theft is to wipe it and sell it, or just dismantle it for parts. No common thief is going to be trying to break into an iPhone's security system to get to someone's banking data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Even if they manage to keep the phone unlocked, and even if they manage to get to a safe spot before I am able to lock the device remotely, they still can't access any banking applications because they require the PIN/biometrics to get in, even on an unlocked phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago It's amazing how Americans love poking their nose into everyone else's affairs yet can be so oblivious. For some people a phone is literally the only device they have, they can't do anything else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kahizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If their bank is anything like my bank, you NEED to have the mobile app installed to login with for online banking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children) The standard for banks like capital one is, in order to login in a browser you must use their app 2fa, they do not support third party 2fa methods, and their app doesn't work under compatibility layers. That last part may come with a workaround, but my earlier point is that the normal end user wouldn't feel comfortable using such a thing if it is not officially allowed. They also claim you can use 2fa by SMS, but that is first and foremost wrong since it isn't an option for payment portals, and secondly insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) one of the reasons mobile phone theft is so lucrative, because people are so obliging to keep their entire financial information downloaded to a single device [Citation needed] The most common reason for mobile phone theft is to wipe it and sell it, or just dismantle it for parts. No common thief is going to be trying to break into an iPhone's security system to get to someone's banking data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Even if they manage to keep the phone unlocked, and even if they manage to get to a safe spot before I am able to lock the device remotely, they still can't access any banking applications because they require the PIN/biometrics to get in, even on an unlocked phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Even if they manage to keep the phone unlocked, and even if they manage to get to a safe spot before I am able to lock the device remotely, they still can't access any banking applications because they require the PIN/biometrics to get in, even on an unlocked phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Even if they manage to keep the phone unlocked, and even if they manage to get to a safe spot before I am able to lock the device remotely, they still can't access any banking applications because they require the PIN/biometrics to get in, even on an unlocked phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago Anything is possible with enough time. Which is why you force log-off all your apps and remote-wipe the device if your phone gets stolen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago It's amazing how Americans love poking their nose into everyone else's affairs yet can be so oblivious. For some people a phone is literally the only device they have, they can't do anything else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (5 children) How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don't believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kahizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If their bank is anything like my bank, you NEED to have the mobile app installed to login with for online banking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children) The standard for banks like capital one is, in order to login in a browser you must use their app 2fa, they do not support third party 2fa methods, and their app doesn't work under compatibility layers. That last part may come with a workaround, but my earlier point is that the normal end user wouldn't feel comfortable using such a thing if it is not officially allowed. They also claim you can use 2fa by SMS, but that is first and foremost wrong since it isn't an option for payment portals, and secondly insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kahizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If their bank is anything like my bank, you NEED to have the mobile app installed to login with for online banking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children) The standard for banks like capital one is, in order to login in a browser you must use their app 2fa, they do not support third party 2fa methods, and their app doesn't work under compatibility layers. That last part may come with a workaround, but my earlier point is that the normal end user wouldn't feel comfortable using such a thing if it is not officially allowed. They also claim you can use 2fa by SMS, but that is first and foremost wrong since it isn't an option for payment portals, and secondly insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kahizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If their bank is anything like my bank, you NEED to have the mobile app installed to login with for online banking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children) The standard for banks like capital one is, in order to login in a browser you must use their app 2fa, they do not support third party 2fa methods, and their app doesn't work under compatibility layers. That last part may come with a workaround, but my earlier point is that the normal end user wouldn't feel comfortable using such a thing if it is not officially allowed. They also claim you can use 2fa by SMS, but that is first and foremost wrong since it isn't an option for payment portals, and secondly insecure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I guess it is a matter of semantics at this point, but i take the year of the Linux phone to be when a phone running a Linux os is viable for the masses, which as my original message states is at least 10 years out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago I'm this close to getting a fucking TomTom. I need something that can do turn by turn navigation in a car, ideally through Android Auto, but nothing good goes on Android Auto anymore. How long until we crack this protocol anyway so we can use Linux phones with Android Auto? permalink fedilink source parent