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[–] 137 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

We in Disturbed are all about unity, OK? We’re all about, no matter who you are, no matter what walk of life you walk, no matter where you come from, no matter how much money is in your pocket, you are welcome at these shows. You understand that?

But we're also about blowing you up if you live in the wrong place and are of the wrong culture. Everybody else, they're welcome to our shows. Unity man, for everybody. Except for the people I wanna kill.

Edit: or maybe he wants the dead children to come to his shows too, I dunno

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Deathklok would sign Israeli artillery, but they'd also sign houthi rockets. And all the dead kids would be invited. Actual unity, not doublespeak. Oderous would call for unity by suggesting to bomb the white house and downing street, by comparison.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    What a fucking letdown.

    Because of this guy and a few others like him, I’m more inclined to listen to dead musicians these days.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    The chance of new scandals popping up is greatly reduced.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Chester Bennington still seems pretty cool. I hope Corey Tailor doesn't do anything bad soon.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    I hope Corey Tailor doesn’t do anything bad soon.

    From 2020:

    “I think that’s what’s happened, we’ve seen too many people pushed off the cancel culture cliff who didn’t really deserve it, because of this all-or-nothing quote-unquote morality that the left has.

    “It’s so fucking full of shit and so hypocritical that it’s going to bite them in the ass. It used to be that there was a real moral center, honestly to both sides, and now we’ve abandoned that for the extremes.”

    https://tonedeaf.thebrag.com/corey-taylor-politics-cmft/

    🤷

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Not a slipknot fan but that looks so much worse taken out of context. You're practically proving his overall point lol

    He's saying the left will dogpile someone if they even say one thing they disagree with. Look at your comment...He's right. The purity tests on the left are infuriating.

    He COULD be more vocal about his political opinions but he's a musician. I can't fathom how stressful it would be knowing you'll get attacked by fans and the media for any innocuous comment. If that happened to me, I'd just stop sharing my opinions publicly...Which is kind of what he did.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Quite interesting that's your interpretation. I didn't include the whole article to sate your need for maximum context, but I did link it.

    See, what I think is the problem with what he's saying is that he's been doing this "both sider"ism, which is nonsense. You don't need to think one side is with the angels and the others are devils, but to morally equate them is naive at best.

    So it's interesting that the point you're picking up on is when he's talking about cancel culture, so a good question to ask here is "who do you think has been wrongly cancelled?", which sadly the interviews at the time don't much delve into.

    I assume you don't listen to Rage Against The Machine because they're too political? Or Megadeth? Dead Kennedys? Pearl Jam? Bruce Springsteen? System of a Down? U2? There's a political dimension to most lyrics, even if you miss it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (10 children)

    He isn't bothsidesing to say that politics are polarized on both sides. And he did nothing wrong by elaborating on the purity test bullshit on the left. He doesn't even say he disagrees with the left (he did support Bernie after all), he just hates that one imperfect comment gets you dragged on social media. Kind of like this. So he just avoids talking politics. His biggest crime here was using the phrase "cancel culture"

    And that is a weird assumption since I never said music shouldn't be political. I said he's within his rights to not talk about it

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Why do you assume I'm left? And am applying a purity test? I'm just pointing out words that left his mouth and felt happy at being published without attaching a value judgement.

    You're rather missing the point. The left right paradigm neglects another dimension of freedom. Most of the "both siders" want to equate authoritarian right wing statements with moderate left wing in order to create a false equivalency and implying that they're all the same, and stuff like this shifts the Overton window towards right wing authoritarianism.

    Certainly, he's well within his rights not to discuss politics. Counter to your point, he's actually been pretty happy to discuss his politics. Not just supporting Bernie but happy to call those who voted for the current POTUS "fucking morons".

    Complaining about cancel culture is pretty low rent and makes me wonder why he did.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    purity test

    This thought-terminating cliche is an admission on the part of the person using it that they have no standards and expect everyone to their left to abandon theirs.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's a general term for what my side tends to do and it's accurate. You are truly blind to pretend it's not a problem, the left is anything but unified

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It’s a general term for what my side tends to do and it’s accurate.

    Your side uses the term to minimize legitimate criticism of your own worst actions because you want to continue or worsen them.

    You are truly blind to pretend it’s not a problem, the left is anything but unified

    Demands for unity from the "party unity my ass" wing. You want unity? Move left and show some damned solidarity with someone not named cheney or netanyahu.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    One group thinks incremental progress is better than going backwards

    The other group apparently thinks it's better to let it keep going backwards until it burns down so we can replace it all at once

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (4 children)

    One group thinks incremental progress is better than going backwards

    If they had supported genocide with the same incrementalist approach, no one would have complained because netanyahu would still be waiting on the first peashooter.

    "incrementalism" is just how people who don't want to keep their promises justify breaking their promises.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sounds good, I guess we'll just keep sliding the Overton window to the right in the meantime

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, it's not like establishment democrats are interested in moving it to the left.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The added bonus is that you also know it isn't AI generated music.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The last Beatles song is heavily touched by AI, long since the death of John and George.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My mom was a big Beatles fan so I've listened to them my whole life. Good stuff.

    But that "new" song sucked sooo bad. And it won a Grammy? What a joke. Gotta be one of the worst Beatles song ever released

    FWIW the AI was really only used to extract "clean" vocals from the demo. Similar to Spleeter but obviously a lot more advanced. Restoring audio quality is a great use of machine learning

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Remember when he covered The Sound of Silence?

    Kinda weird how someone can sing that song and completely miss the point of it.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Such a huge section of their music was anti-war and anti-fascism. It's like if RATM came out and endorsed Trump. This is the first celebrity let down I've ever personally experianced, normally I'm able to identify the shitheads well ahead of time.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    What about "No More"???? Like, THEY wrote it and they performed it. What happened?

    [Verse 1] Once again we hear them calling for war It doesn't matter what they're fighting for They light the match and watch the whole world burst into flame The story's always the same So tell me, people, are you ready to kill? Behold the propaganda, get your fill A distant enemy is threatening our freedom again How much would you like to spend?

    [Pre-Chorus] Millions are falling in line And it's just a matter of time Endless destruction will ensure their pockets are lined For all time

    [Chorus] No more defending the lies Behind the never-ending war

    They count the money as the innocent continue to bleed

    They paint a picture, and the whole damn world is deceived

    I guess they also have other older songs like Immortalized and Indestructible which seem to be pro-war. I thought they had improved or something.

    Today we feed on domination Secure a legacy that will never die Be immortalized

    Show no mercy, let the world see We’re invincible

    Every broken enemy will know That their opponent had to be invincible Take a last look around while you're alive I'm an indestructible master of war

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The point of the song revolves around many people's inability to communicate.

    I think you can understand the song and still be a piece of shit. For example, he understands the song and properly communicated to us all that he's a monster.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Also controversial opinion but Simon and Garfunkel are not a difficult band to put out a banger cover of. If your music can capture an aching feeling you can cover their songs really well. Paul Simon was a musical genius.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Bud, you fucking autographed bombs.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe he doesn't know bombs are used specifically to kill large swaths of people.

    like idk what he thought that was for?

    This is not the same kind of participation as showing a little leg for the troops.

    Maybe sign some food and medical aid delivery for different results. Doubt it will keep BB the moneychanger from sabotaging the supplies tho.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    No he signed artillery, not missiles not bombs. I blame the media for not reading the writing on the literal explosive, it's just lazy journalism.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
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    You legitimately read what I wrote and thought I'd take more accuracy as an insult? Are you dense?

    Let me ask you, what's the harm in more accuracy? You seem offended by it so please explain exactly how it's hurting your oh so sensitive feelins.

    Also not a bombshell, never was unless it's HE.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean, he was signing the shells of whatever type. Kind of splitting hairs here because they're not technically "bombs" in the traditional sense. He signed the shit that gets fired from whatever, close enough.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah nuance fuck that shit all my homies love willful ignorance. Shit I hope all news starts to go monosyllabic. Bad man take. Good man try stop. Who needs more?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Man shut the fuck up, he signed shit that you launch at enemies to blow them up. It’s the same fucking shit.

    You’re the kind of loser that goes “Um actually, that’s not an AK-47” like who fucking cares? The big picture remains the same.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This isn't the time for stupid pedantry.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's always time for accuracy in journalism.

    When your job is to investigate and report things as they actually are and you report on a thing that is telling you what it is and you say it is something it isn't it calls into question the quality and depth of your work product. In this case a missile might be iron don't related which is technically defensive if you ignore the eod that falls short of it's intended target, artillery can be in defensive emplacements but it is in use only an offensive weapon which removes some plausible deniability for what's his face.

    Ask yourself why are people saying missiles or bombs and you'll end up of you look finding a sole outlet that misrepresented what they were and people ran with it because let's be honest paying attention isn't so super common these days.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    When people like this demand unity, they just mean agreement with their views.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    On Tuesday (October 14), the band responded once more, this time in person during their concert at the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam. Onstage, Draiman called for “unity”, adding, “The conflicts that are going on in this world don’t define us.”

    Simping for a genocide is a weird choice for "unity" unless what you mean is exterminating everyone who you don't want unified...

    Like, especially with religion this shit won't end. Islam, Judaism, and all the various Christian flavors all literally worship the same God, with essentially the same base rules.

    They just follow different prophets.

    If one of the big three Abrahamic religions "won" and was the last group standing, they'd just turn on themselves.

    Like Protestants vs Catholics, Suni vs Shia Muslims, or Orthodox vs Modern Judaism.

    If there's no large group with a big difference, the remaining group will fracture.

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  • [+] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Even serj's drummer is trump fanboy simp.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Well, shit, I'll have to stop listening to Disturbed 10 years ago.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I have no idea whats with isreal. It just draws in people who you thought had completely normal takes and were proper human beings and turns them into some disgusting thing. Same thing happened with infected mushroom for me. They are in a genre, psytrance, which is anti war and promotes peace. The genre was born from traumatized israelis fleeing to india and discovering the party scene there. Literally one of the founding members of infected mushroom is a veteran whos said before that the music lets him cope with his trauma. How can you be such a hypocrite? And once again same thing with disturbed. They perform a genre and a cover a lot of songs that are blatantly anti war and anti faschism.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    A lot of people were staunchly with Israel after the initial Oct strike from Hamas. Many have simply rested on their laurels and continued to back Israel, either thru laziness or some internalized fear or simple cruelty. Others have taken a step back and started to understand the bigger picture. The second group is much smaller.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    "Unity" never actually includes conservatives, it always means having better people accept them no matter how horrifically shitty they act, while they change absolutely nothing about their behavior. Fuck this loser and all his loser fans

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Come on guys, can't we all just unite and get down with the sickness together?

    F that guy, one only ever liked 2 of their songs.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Yes, we are united against genocidal terrorism perpetrated by Israel.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Actually the conflicts of this world and how we react are EXACTLY what define us as individuals in the course if our limited lifetimes? (quote from article)

    Very airport jokes vibe. Like this guy hasn't touched the ground in a while. Waded right out of relevency and into the highcash hustle.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    What do you expect from the official band of BMX copper wire thieves?

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    Now is not the time for disagreement. We all need to unite behind our new tyrants.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Stupid fuck.

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