Never bought her a diamond
Never even bought a ring
Never even got married with a giant ceremony or big event
Been together for over 30 years, bought property and all kinds of things, traveled to over 30 countries. Still not married.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Never bought her a diamond
Never even bought a ring
Never even got married with a giant ceremony or big event
Been together for over 30 years, bought property and all kinds of things, traveled to over 30 countries. Still not married.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Rings are socially relevant demarcations of sexual availability. Diamonds are just shiny rocks. Frankly, rings with any stones in them piss me off. They catch on your clothes and rip your favorite fucking sweater, and it’s laundry day so you can’t even grab something else because your other clothes are soaked in vomit because projectile vomiting all over a crowd is the most reasonable course of action when you’re a dumb asshole dicking around on a balcony on new years, apparently.
Well this reply certainly took a turn! Especially since NYE was 9+ months ago. Woman have had sex that night, and given birth since then. And you still haven't done laundry yet???
Dude.
You can have well made rings with stones that don't catch on fabrics
Source: I make rings
Lab grown emeralds are a couple hundred bucks and are way prettier than diamonds.
My wife's engagement ring is an emerald, I don't think it was lab grown but it was way cheaper then a diamond and looks easy better then a piece of "glass"
My friend works with lab grown crystals and there re ones like lutetium aluminium garnet doped with cerium (LuAG:Ce) and similar which look awesome
I just looked them up, they're almost like kryptonite, or TV Uranium. That's so cool
I wonder if there's anyone interested creating lab diamonds that have imperfections that essentially become indistinguishable from the mined ones. There wouldn't be any money in it, but they could theoretically crash the blood diamond market.
Its already happened, its why big diamond cartels etch symbols into diamonds. They literally can't tell the difference anymore.
Its not super common for them to do that as its at least unethical and illegal in some places. Plus unless your literally trying to counterfeit, why would you want a flawed diamond?
Moissanite is an excellent diamond alternative if you want a clear stone. Cheaper, just as resilient, and sparkly as fuck.
Yup, it's even what they use in their displays because they sparkle more than a diamond.
No I'm pretty sure that's just so if there's a robbery they aren't stealing the good stuff.
My wife has a Tanzanite engagement ring and loves talking about it
IMO it’s kind of romantic Tanzanite only comes from one single place.
Wife and I decided on moissanite. It's big, extra sparkly, and was at the time 1/10 the price a similar diamond would be. Almost as hard, too - won't get scratched except by another moissanite or a diamond.
This is what I always say. When people want diamonds they either want them because they're pretty or expensive. If you want expensive then buy a gold bullion, if you want pretty buy a moissanite, for both, buy both.
I got engagement with moissanite for my now-wife. She says it is too big and firery-sparkly. Costed me almost nothing compared to a micro-sized diamond on a silver ring I'd get at a major jeweler.
Eh it's now about 1/3 the price. Lab diamonds are getting cheap. Still a solid option though.
If it loses 50-80% of the value as soon as it's used, might as well get a used one if you must have a natural diamond. This also applies to cars and plenty of other things. Let someone with more money than you take the hit.
Pretty sure a used engagement ring is worse than lab grown in the eyes of the unwashed masses.
Used means cursed, it failed once and will fail again. As if the mined materials have any effect in a relationship.
Now you just tell people that it was stolen from a murder victim. But it's alright because they had a really long life together before that happened. Then it's okay.
Damn, one of these without a "fake and gay" explanation, and I'm too tired to think of a good one. I've never gotten to be the fake and gay guy, and I'm missing my chance D:
But anyway, as others have said, lab grown, vintage, there are other options.
But has anyone considered a rock that doesn't just look like glass? There are so many cool rocks out there, people! I'd literally rather have a piece of quartz that my SO and I found together turned into a ring than I would have a piece of a much fancier/"valuable" stone that I have no attachment to.
When my parents got married, they had gone gem mining at one of those places with the troughs of dirt, and you pan it yourself. They found some rubies, and had wedding rings made from those. How fucking cool is that? Way cooler than a thing you have no connection to, I think.
Fake: anon uses 4chan but refers to himself as a normie
Gay: getting himself blackpilled on het culture
Fake: anon has a gf
Gay: anon doesn’t want to buy an engagement ring for his fake gf
Diamonds don't look like glass.
Other than that you are correct about everything.
Wait until he finds out how much the reception will cost.
I agree the "rock" hints strongly at it, but unless they're american* weddings aren't very expensive. That whole lavish show-off thing the rest of us just ignore.
*) hmm, maybe indian too
Dutch wedding receptions aren't cheap either, the main difference is that here it's much more common to keep it small and not have a reception.
Currently planning what seems like a fairly mid sized wedding in the UK
It's already looking like it's going to be over double the cost of a roughly equivalent wedding one of my friends had only 3 years ago
Based on some of the price lists of suppliers for the following year we've seen, they'll be getting even more expensive. The industry is getting quite out of hand
My wife and I looked at places a couple of friends got married at a couple of years earlier when we were planning on our wedding and those venues had doubled in price since then. A couple of years later our venue doubled in price. The wedding industry really seems intent on pricing itself out of existence!
How much does it cost compared to the ceremony itself?
It depends a lot on what you do, I am currently looking and its annoying how few mid price options there seem to be. Like its either go down the pub with your mates for £150, or £20k invite a bunch of people you barely even know.
Why so little in the 4 figure price range? Seems like for that you need to just organise something yourself and say its just a party.
I wonder if it would just be cheaper to get catering to the Church hall, kind of like how they do with funerals and ordinations
Yeah pretty much, a community hall of some form that would let you do as you like with it kind of thing. Had a friend do that but she also wanted all the guests to bring their own dish to share for the meal. Given that she asked for money as a gift from people I am pretty sure it was the worlds only profitable wedding.
So don't buy one. My girlfriend's will be getting one of those rings made of tungsten. Have you seen them they look amazing. It's simultaneously looks like something some elvish jewellery merchant made while at the same time looking like it made also activate the halo rings.
A diamond is just shiny.
Of course it's important to discuss these things with your partner in advance. Whether or not they would be happy with a non-diamond ring depends very much on the person. But it might be worth advocating for them because they look really nice and they are quite expensive but they're honestly more interesting than the diamond and ethically sourced. There's no such thing as blood tungsten.
looks like something some elvish jewellery merchant made
Worked at a jewelers for a while years ago. If that's the vibe you're going for I'd suggest a moss agate:

If your finger swells up inside a tungsten ring, EMT's cannot cut through it with their normal tools. They have to use a high speed grinding tool. You or your loved one will not enjoy this procedure.
Don't get tungsten rings.
I wear a tungsten band. Always have to take it off before the gym or manual labor. I was told "in an emergency they can't cut the ring so they may have to cut the finger". It's cool though, I barely use that one and I have like 9 others.
Did a jeweler tell you that so they could sell you something expensive? Tungsten rings are hard but brittle. They can be broken with a pair of vise grips, just like stone rings.
A dremel won’t work on tungsten rings?
some diamonds glow in the dark. if i ever get a diamond ring i want a lab grown glow in the dark diamond in it
One of the ideas I had years ago was to get an uncut puck of lab diamond, (at the time this was ~$1500 from one place, probably cheaper now) find a lapidary and get them to cut out a literal diamond ring, a ring made entirely of solid diamond, and then my spouse could say 'That's not a diamond ring. This is a diamond ring.' in a cheesy Aussie accent.
Check with your partner and see what kind of ring they want for their engagement.
I went to the jewelry store with my partner and shopped for her engagement ring. Ended up doing a custom piece with a rose-gold band and a couple of blue topaz gems. She wanted a ring that would fit comfortably under exam gloves (she worked in a lab at the time). She's much happier with it than a big heavy pointy rock, and it was way cheaper (like 450 for the whole ring).
On that note, I find diamonds to be the most boring gemstone. Any of the ones with colour are far more interesting to me, I don't get why anyone would want to pay more for diamonds (outside of their industrial purposes) even if they were actually rarer.
I'm going the custom route as well I just think if you give them something custom it's so much more meaningful than just going and buying something that was merely expensive.
Also with a really expensive diamond ring you never want to wear it because you always worried it's going to get stolen.
White sapphire is even cheaper than moissanite and most people don't know any better. It's a little less durable than diamond but looks a lot like a natural diamond. My wife cared more about the look than the actual pricetag, so I got what looks like thousands of dollars worth of ring for less than 10% of that. She's clumsy, so if she bumps into something and the stone pops out and gets lost, no big deal.
Discuss with your partner. Do not try to trick them by getting them a diamond alternative and then telling them it's a diamond. A reasonable partner (imo) would rather put some of that money towards the wedding and/or marriage itself rather than into a ring. Get the wedding menu you really want or put it towards a house down payment or new furniture or something.
There is one type of natural diamond that doesn't lose its value. Those are mine cut diamonds. They haven't cut them at the mines since before the cartels took over. I found this out one day, because my GF would wear her late grandmother's wedding and engagement bands. We got curious one day, and wandered into the fancy jewelry story in the mall. I said to the guy, "I know you can't give us an official appraisal, but could you take a look and give us a ballpark." He slipped the loupe on and took a look. Immediately he said something like, "Oh, wow! Haven't seen one of these before." He explained that all 20 of the ¼ carat diamonds and the large 2 carat diamond were all mine cut, so the engagement band could have fetched $100,000 and the wedding band was worth about $250,0000 in 2000 dollars.
Needless to say, she stopped wearing it frequently after she found out.
I buy my wife jewelry with artificial diamonds, not because she wants it, but because I love to see her wearing it. She calls me a magpie for good reason.
Ooh sparkly things!
The obvious answer is to buy a large synthetic one. It's still real.
Nah, get a moissanite, it is more brilliant, and because it is used as high voltage SiCfets it is way cheaper.
So do what my better half and i did - buy a ring from Etsy with a lab-grown stone.
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