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[–] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

you know, trump, he says a lot of things, but this tariff thing? I think he’s really got a good point there. We’re really supporting too many countries.

  • an Actual American said this to me. It’s phenomenal how ignorant people are.
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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    My coworker gave me the same spiel and keeps complaining about how the local shoprite is too expensive and she won't shop there anymore. My office is so hopped up on copium that I just don't bother anymore.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    supporting

    These are people who heard “trade deficit” and thought “deficit? That’s a bad word!”

    We were getting a ton of stuff from other countries for cheap, meanwhile those countries either couldn’t afford our stuff or bought it at an absurd premium.

    That is not supporting the other countries, it’s exploiting them.

    The funny thing is, I’m like… Yeah, we should probably stop exploiting them. And in that sense, the tariffs are a good thing. Buuut the price of doing that is being paid disproportionately by working class people.

    If it was more equitably implemented, I wouldn’t necessarily have a problem with a more tariff-based USA.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    How is it that people don't know how a tariff works???

    Are there a bunch of "other" tariffs that I don't know about???

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    There's a shocking lack of financial literacy from a lot of people, and not just Americans.

    Tax brackets, tariffs, you name it. People somehow expect either the importer or the manufacturer to wear the cost.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have zero respect for anyone who says they rejected a raise (or bitches a raise they accepted) because theyd pay more in taxes because itd put them in a new tax bracket.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    In people's defense, unless you are taking uni economics classes, you probably aren't getting taught macro/micro + general economics, though it is interesting as hell imo.

    Technically, our representatives should, in theory, be learning this stuff and protecting the average person so that civilians can focus on foresty/rocket science/ R&D/public health/business/infrastructure/etc.

    That's why representatives technically are supposed to exist. Nobody has time to learn the one and outs of everything needed to run an entire country smoothly. Especially complicated stuff, like public health, economics and trade, sewage systems, transit systems, and centralized grid planning. That shit is complicated AF.

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    It's crazy that over 200 years ago, some Boston dudes got so angry at this same thing happening that they threw every last barrel of tea into the ocean and proceeded to start a fucking war for independence.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Is that what you were told? The Boston Tea Party was caused by a cut in taxes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The source of the protestors' anger was the passage of the Tea Act by the Parliament of Great Britain on May 10, 1773, which allowed the East India Company (EIC) to sell Chinese tea in the colonies without paying taxes apart from those imposed by the Townshend Acts.

    Checks out

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    So you read all of that, and came away with "checks out"? If they were technically correct, maybe. But the way their post was stated, they implied the colonies were freaking out over a tax cut that benefited them. Instead, it was the age old tradition of cutting taxes for the wealthy and continuing to tax the Americans disproportionately.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Have the day you voted for.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Everything is gonna come tumbling down very soon. Brace, y’all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'm so tired of winning.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Yep, haven't bought anything new and tech related since the start of the year.

    If you think this is bad, wait until his 5th year in office, because you're still not going to do anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    i haven't been buying shit

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    [–] 77 points 1 year ago

    And 6 months from now, it will be the full cost. They're just turning up the heat slowly enough that the frogs don't notice the difference.

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  • [–] 105 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Who else would be bearing the costs? The government is profiting from them, foreign companies and individuals aren’t affected beyond a drop in purchasing power, and companies are just going to pass the costs on to the consumer.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    This time, exporters are bearing some cost, along with U.S. businesses, who may actually be sparing consumers even worse price increases for the moment. [...] Businesses also might have accumulated inventory in advance of the tariffs setting in, allowing them to hold off on raising their retail prices more significantly.

    In case you were curious about the remainder.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Tell your employers and demand a raise to compensate. Pass the buck until someone in the finance sector gives a shit.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The employers are hoping to replace nearly everyone but those in the C suite with AI.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I'm so broke rn that I'm rehoming most of my ducks. I'm only keeping 3 of the 8 that I have. I'll save like $60/month on feed with a smaller flock. That money won't go towards my savings, but to my mortgage payment which will go up by $40 starting in December.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Needlessly antagonistic, baiting real people into arguments, weaponizing class war talking points.

    You’re the whole problem.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I didn't though. My house is absolutely tiny and was very cheap because of that. I don't need a big house. Up until a couple months ago, I've been able to afford it and everything else without issue. I've cut out almost all luxuries from my life and get groceries at the fuckin dollar store now.

    You really shouldn't assume shit about people. Acting like a dickhead online, unprovoked, isn't a good look either.

    You'll catch way more flies with honey, dear.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Lmao okay, pal. You sure have hit the nail on the head with your assumptions of my life. You should totally be a detective with those skills of deduction.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There weren't in my area lmao.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The lowest income area of my county, but ok. I should just go live in the woods and live off of berries and acorns

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  • [+] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    See? Americans actually do love high taxes and big government! Maybe Bernie should start talking about how Mexico’s gonna pay for universal healthcare! (And then just raise taxes)

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Is the GOP play here to just keep manipulating the stock market with tariffs then remove them when the campaigns are in swing so they can say "look how we fixed the economy!!1!"

    Which their base may or may not eat up depending on how bad their attention span are.

    The other option is they have no plan and their just gonna keep grifting.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Whoa, are you saying not all companies were total loyalists to Taco and didn't just eat the cost of his egotistical fantasies?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Only? I would have expected them to take all, and a bit. Never let an opportunity to make some extra profit go to waste...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It's almost like Americans should have listened to every fucking economist in the country.

    But Americans are stupid, so here we are.

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  • [+] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Right, Bernie would have come in and what, magically persuaded congressional Republicans to support all his programs and initiatives?

    You probably don't even realize that 90% of Obama and Biden's perceived failures in office were due to massive opposition by elected Republicans.

    Like, ObamaCare was originally supposed to have a single-payer public option, but they couldn't get enough enough votes to pass it.

    But you are talking like Bernie would have come in and what, Jedi Mind Tricked the Republicans into voting for single payer?? Incredible.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    You will never, in a million years, make Bernie Bros understand that presidents have to have Congressional support to get things done.

    They think he would have floated in on angel wings and waved a magic wand to fix everything. They lack the fundamental understanding of how our government does/doesn't work.

    It's exactly the same with the fools that voted 3rd party. They honestly thought they could bring in a rando from a party with ZERO representatives in Congress and have them actually get things done.

    These are not people who are comfortable using critical thinking skills.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    In one message, you say all the problems we have today are all because Bernie didn't get elected, now you tell me one man can't make a difference.. do you even see the breakdown of your logic here?

    Just out of curiosity, how many times have you written your representatives in Congress? How many times have you sent emails to Chuck Schumer, or tried to motivate friends and family to do the same? How many times have you emailed the DNC? Do you do anything else besides post defeatist messages online?

    Because the Republicans don't seem to have a problem getting their voters out to vote.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I've got no dog in this fight, but you're misrepresenting them.

    Their original post says "all the neoliberals and conservatives who voted against Bernie". It's not that Bernie, being one man, would have made a difference. It's that the bloc lining up behind him would have made a difference.

    And the fact that he couldn't beat a bunch of neoliberals and conservatives is OUR (the voting population's) failure, not his.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Thanks for answering the real question as to why the Left is so politically ineffective. You are either too lazy or too defeatist to bother making your voice heard. Oh, except in these message boards where you cry about how nobody enacts the policies you want, when you dont even bother showing your representatives you support them.

    Good luck in life.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    Viva your basement revolution, Che Guevara. Talk about useful idiots, I'd bet good money you've barely cracked a history book in your life.

    Also, do you think Bernie is a communist because he honeymooned in the Soviet Union? Brother, are you ever gonna be disappointed...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    What childhood enemy of Trump's is making kitchen cabinets and is now being punished?

    The "National Security" implications of cabinetry are beyond me.

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