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[–] 117 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I would be more inclined to blame stupid consumers on this one.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    The rebrand isn't because of stupidity it's because money. Like always.

    Big picture: Lay’s generates about 60% of PepsiCo’s annual sales but has seen sales slip every quarter for the last three years. Consumers in every income bracket have been ditching classic snack brands amid rising prices.

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  • [–] 79 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    So it's not that the consumer is stupid, it's that marketing is desperate to find another way to explain that no one can afford $8 for a bag of shitty chips?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Utz is far superior in flavor and pricing. I buy a fair amount of snacks (I leave them by the front door with drinks for the delivery people), and I can buy a 60 ct. box of 1oz. chip bags for $15 or a 40 ct. of the same size from Lays for $25.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Utz are okay and better than lays, but they are still pretty shitty chips

    Boulder Chips are way better, actual high quality chips (not fried slices of air), and a party sized bag is like $4. Lays charges for the name and sells shitty chips. Utz charges for the chips but still sells shitty chips. Its hard to find a decent brand of quality chips, but there are some out there

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    1 out of 8 people in the US have or are using a GLP drug.

    the percentage of people who were eating a large amount of snack foods like this are fairly likely to be those 1:8 people who were prescribed a GLP drug.. its more than just rising costs, these drugs are changing the way people relate to processed snack food in a profound way and the manufacturers arw well aware.

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  • [–] 85 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The article seems much closer to a PepsiCo marketing piece than proper journalism.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    How can people be that dumb. It is literally in the name: Potato Chips.

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  • [–] [S] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My guess is that when you see a stamp that says "Made with real potatoes" you just assume that they were waved at a potato at some point during manufacturing. :)

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    [–] 45 points 1 year ago (36 children)

    Reminds me about the fact that a roughly equal proportion of the population does not know that peanuts, just like potatoes, grow underground.

    Peanuts freshly harvested from the soil

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Ok. But I would say not knowing potato chips are made of potato is slightly worse.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I wonder what people guess what french fries are made from...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not even French people. They just would have no idea, regardless of the seemingly obvious context clues

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s the Flemish but the French make them

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Flemish potato-frying art is at advanced levels as yet unreachable by the peak of French culinary technology. Not to mention the whacky things they add to the mayo you're given to dip your frites in.

    Flemish cuisine in general is not given the respect it deserves. Some of the best meals I've ever had were in Flanders. There's more to it than waterzooi.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I just had raw peanuts for the first time this week and the taste was intriguing. It really brings home how they are "legumes" when they taste more like peas than peanut butter.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    In German language they are called ‘Erdnüsse’ (Ground Nuts), so it is more obvious where they grow.

    But since the climate doesn't (yet) allow to grow them here, maybe many people don't know much about their origins either.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's fun, reminds me of how French calls potatoes "apples of the earth" (pommes de terre.)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In German, potatoes are also called ‘Erdäpfel’ although that is considered as outdated and somewhat funny.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    That's a little more understandable. Peas grow on vines, so you'd expect peanuts to be somehow similar to peas. I guess they get their name because they're in pods like peas but without being told, how would someone guess they grow underground?

    And cashews do grow on trees (they're technically a fruit) and are similar to peanuts. Would anyone guess that cashews are fruits?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I guess they get their name because they're in pods like peas but without being told

    Presumably the opposite; they get their name because they're in shells like nuts

    (The 'pea' part is because they're a legume; it could have just as easily ended up 'bean-nut', except that would over time become 'beanut', which would probably re-become peanut)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yes, okay, guessing the origin from the name can be somewhat misleading. But the striking thing for me is that people do not know and do not bother to ask themselves where a product that they consume every day or every week comes from. That's ignorance.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why is it important to know these things? I'd rather people be ignorant of the biology of a peanut plant than ignorant of the many important things that people are ignorant of.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I consider it important that if I am consuming a produce regularly to know what exactly I'm eating, what it is made from and where does it come from. Because the stuff I'm eating becomes a part of me. And also because I am regularly spending money for that so I will inform myself about the details of a product.

    It's not about those peanuts, that's part of understanding one's own life and the contexts of life in which one is involved. And I think it is a problem that many people are consumers who are very alienated from these life contexts and no longer understand how they are actually connected to the world. That's one reason why illusions can thrive.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sure it's great that this is an interest to you, but not everyone is going to care about minutia about food. At the end of the day we have to trust someone that's done some research into whether a plant is safe to eat and whether it's healthy, and in what quantities, etc. regardless of whether it's a legume or a fruit or whatever. Which food is safe and healthy is important, other biological details are trivia.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I think to dismiss the search for basic knowledge as a mere personal interest misses the point. If people don't even know about such things like that chips are made from potatoes, that is a warning sign – it's a matter of lacking general education and too many people not caring about their own actual ecosystem and dependencies.

    A political cartoon by Stefan Haller: it illustrates human dependence on biodiversity using a house of cards. A person on top of the structure asks, "Why should I care about the extinction of species?", while each card below represents a different plant or animal. The precarious stack symbolizes how the removal of even one species could lead to the collapse of the entire ecosystem, impacting humanity.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They’re also called ground nuts for this reason! Boil a potato and nobody bats an eye.. Boil a peanut and everyone loses their mind.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Hot boiled peanuts are a delicacy served at gas stations all over the southern US! (Also they are legumes, like peas, not nuts.)

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    and the potatoe isnt a vegatable, its a tuber, the real parts of the plants are berries, and leaves. which are poisonous.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The potato plant is a nightshade, closely related to the tomato. All nightshades contain poisonous alkaloids, including small amounts in tomato fruits and green potato skins.

    The potato is still a vegetable though... Vegetable is a culinary term and can apply to any part of a plant, including roots and tubers.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    All nightshade plants contain poisonous alkaloids in some parts under some conditions. That doesn't mean that a properly grown and stored potato can kill you.

    The main toxin in most nightshades is solanine. Tomatoes produce a less toxic variant called tomatine. Ripe tomatoes have minuscule amounts of it. The leaves have a much higher amount, which is why people don't eat the leaves.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This has to be an actual joke right?

    This reminds me of ppl when they think chocolate milk comes from brown cows

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This reminds me of ppl when they think chocolate milk comes from brown cows

    Yeah that's just crazy.

    Everyone knows chocolate milk comes from any cows that are fed large amounts of chocolate.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    da fuq did people think they are?! 🤨

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Guessing the question wasn't clear, since Lays is both the name of the original product (potato chips) and the brand (which without looking it up I would guess includes other types of chips such as corn). But results from a well-formulated survey would have less clickbait value, so the shock results get reported.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just don't understand how it is that chips and things like Doritos can possibly cost so much. It must be due to more and more consolidation and price-fixing.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    now I see why Americans need to specify when they're talking about "eye glasses", but don't Americans call them "potato chips" anyway?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago*

    Is it just me or does it not literally say “potato chips” right on the bag? Been a long while since I had any Lay’s brand chips.

    E: yes it does, on the bigger bags it’s on the front. Not sure about the smaller bags.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago*

    Lines up with the mouth breathing Trump voter stats.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    This is off the top of my head so correct me if I'm wrong but this is basically what veggie straws got sued over in reverse.

    Like yeah, potatoes are vegetables. You thought because some where green and orange that we were using shit like carrots and celery? Lmao, no. Read the ingredients homie. That's red dye and green dye on weird shaped potatoes chips 🤠

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I don't think I've heard of a lawsuit over it, but the veggie snacks really are made of vegetable starch. Of course that doesn't make them healthy, but they're not just potato chips.

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    All I know is that I'm not paying $5 a bag for their stale chips.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Must be a US thing, in the UK they are easily one of if not the most popular brand of crisps (chips) they are called walkers here but the logo is the same. We have stricter regulations on what is classed as food in this country though.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    didn't know their chips were made out of potatoes

    What in the actual fuck??

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This has to be from the onion. Some reporter didn’t check their source.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    I have 100% transitioned to store brand chips. Some are even better than the one they are ripping off, plus they don't cost 8 bucks a bag.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Wait, which study was this? The page says it was from 2021. What was the question? What was the context? Who were polled and how? I am dubious.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I mean, unless the question was, "What are Lays potato chips made of," which answers itself so it wouldn't be used. But if the question was "What are Lays chips made of," I could see how someone might not answer potatoes. And who even asks that question in poll anyway? I feel like there's a universe of context collapse here.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I thought they were literally made out of money these days, considering the prices last few years.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't eat a ton of chips, but with the prices, I haven't bought any name brand chips in over two years.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I haven't bought store brand because I haven't found good ones, but I've bought Euro brands over lays or cheetos. Best price to quality ratio is actually local brands, they even beat out other European brands.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Just when I think we've scrapped the bottom of human stupidity...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well the title isn’t exactly accurate. It references a 2021 study to get the title but Pepsi said nothing about it

    The changes come as Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. pushes companies to ditch artificial ingredients.

    This is likely the bigger factor.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    Given how many yanks can't identify their own damned state on a map, and vote for republicans when they are guaranteeing that their lives will be made worse, I find this utterly unsurprising

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