cross-posted from: https://ibbit.at/post/79747

The Trump administration is drawing up “secret lists of terrorist groups inside the United States,” Senator Elissa Slotkin said on the floor of Congress yesterday — the first such reference to the effects of National Security Presidential Memorandum 7 (NSPM-7). The directive, as I’ve reported, lays out Donald Trump’s policies with regard to equating “anti-Christian” and “anti-capitalist”…

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“The Trump administration define[s] domestic terrorism incredibly broadly,” Slotkin said. “It suggests that any group that talks about anti-Christian values, views they don’t like on migration or race, differing views on the role of the family, religion, or morality could all be grounds for labelling an organization as domestic terrorists.”

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[–] 84 points 1 year ago

There's already a list of people we need to watch out for. Let's see it.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Meanwhile, I see idiotic Confederate dumbasses posting stuff about how Republicans are "standing up for American freedoms".

    Bull-fucking-shit they are. I didn't see Democrats step on one freedom of any Confederate dipshit. I see Republicans positively gleeful about stealing away freedom from MILLIONS.

    They do realize that about 38% of Americans are not xtian, right? What the fuck does "anti-Christian" even mean? Is it "anti-Christian" to not want any affiliation with your little book club?

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What you’ve got to realize here is the freedom they’re talking about is their freedom to oppress “the others.”

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    Bold of him to call it secret. It's just unpublished.

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    Welp, I'm surely on it

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    “Senators warn…” Do something!

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Palantir was built to do this, and does so instantly, nothing to develop - the tech is built.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Isn't Ellison promising to spy on everyone, too?

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    Social media as a whole is the infrastructure of authoritarianism. It only needs someone to put it use.

    That's a paraphrase from some talking head I heard a while back. The world has been feeding this machine for about 15 years. It's filled with everyone's personal data.

    In a sense this is the Skynet doomsday. It's already in place. All it takes right now is a flip of a switch. Like the Doomsday Clock. We are on the verge of it. Midnight strikes soon.

    I have no doubt ICE is already using this to know how and where to pluck people off the street. If I'm a person that could be targeted in America right now. I'd be 100% off the grid. Ditch every electronic device. Go completely dark. Disappear myself to another location before they disappear me.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Soon they will be marching us to death camps. Get ready the Nazi are in-charge.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Some go to the "Sanctuary District", some just get zapped to trigger the poisonous tech in the jabs, some get zapped from the sky...

    Orrrrrr, we mend this. Change the ride, to a better world. We've so much headroom without the crooks' ploys. No cull necessary.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    "First they came for the immigrants, and I was like 'yeah, ok, cool,' and signed legislation increasing their powers to detain people (arc), but now they're coming for James Comey and I'm like 'yo wtf'" - Elissa Slotkin (probably)

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    How can I get on it?

    I assume keeping my phone on while protesting at the next No Kings priest will help, as will posting "fuck you, rapist pedophile corrupt asshole felon Trump" here...

    But how can I be sure? 👀

    I'm ready to fight but don't really know where to direct my anger

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Starting violence is exactly what they want you to do. I'm not saying it's never the right call but ultimately a civil war will be bad for everyone

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah that's fair. I've been through the ACLU de-escalation training and stuff and won't actively start violence at a peaceful protest or anything, but if I get targeted because of said protesting and end up being targeted by ice (I'm a green card holder, not a citizen) then I'll go down fighting for sure

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've been party to a few of these exchanges recently, and between open citizen violence and letting things go on as they are, I think I am now rooting for our society to just collapse under its own weight. And with enough mismanagement, it certainly will (already is). While that will produce a great deal of suffering, at least it could provide a chance to fix some things.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Like the entire voter registry of democrats?

    What good is a "watchlist" if its 80+ million names long?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    It's not secret that it's happening. Palintir is well known to have the contract to built the list. The secret is who's been flagged as scheduled for termination or deportation out whatever.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't think you have to warn anyone about that one

    About the only useful thing about the American government at this point is for them to tell you information that everyone already knows about.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    Jesus said that if someone asks for your coat, you should give your cloak to them also. IDK guys, that sounds pretty anti-capitalist to me.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    If there are protestors or critics that is even more reason a good president should be listening to their concerns, even if he doesn't agree with them. Not trying to make enemies out of them.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Oh my, is that Senator Elissa Slotkin, "former" CIA Agent, from this famously disastrous interview? Well I'm sure a "former" CIA Agent would know a thing or two about compiling dossiers on American Citizens.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    That interview reminded me of Ritchie Torres on Adam Friesland's show: starts out saying some reasonable-sounding things, but becomes completely paralyzed when questioned about Israel and can only trot out the vaguest, most noncommittal verbiage while ducking the main point every time. It's a very bad look.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    what exactly about this is NEW news?

    fuck they probably have me on a watchlist and I'm not even american

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Perhaps a problem is that nobody is surprised anymore.

    If you dont jump when a loud noise goes off anymore, you might not get out of the way of what makes it.

    Maybe fake it til you make it. Act shocked about it and tell coworkers that you're terrified.

    Or just read one of the forefathers' diaries, see if they managed to articulate the tipping point that began the slope towards revolution and attempt to replicate it?

    (I'm speaking generally about this situation, I'm not an american either)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Once again the Senate is a day late and a dollar short.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Not much of a secret...

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I wrote an angry text to one of my MAGA senators while really high. I fully expect to be on a list.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I had just assumed that the NSA and FBI were already doing that, or will Trump's list be a different, more incompetent one?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Well I'm sure most of us are on that list

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Slotkin is an AIPAC ghoul that the Dems have been trying to push lately as the "hot new star" as a replacement for Kamala. Would t be surprised is she runs in 2028.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Centrists realizing they're getting swept in with the lefties.

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  • This has existed for decades but i guess they are expanding the criteria for who makes it onto the list.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Rich out of touch corporate democrat that will issue blank checks to a nation committing a genocide says something we already know in an attempt at some relevancy. Fuck Slotkin.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh no! The Nazis are doing Nazi things. How shocking.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Secretly, Americans have been developing a watch on trump.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    See Dick drink. Drink, Dick, drink!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I really hope that all this bullshit shows just how bad many 'anti-terrorism' laws were and see them all be repealed.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    They might be shocked to learn that there is a list of government officials/employees that the Citizens are watching.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I used to be on a list. I'm on a list now, but I also used to be too.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I assume no one in the Trump admin knows wtf Lemmy is, so we're safe here maybe.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    If the worst people in society are making a list of enemies it should be considered a moral failure to not make the list.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    If a list is of virtually everyone it stops being a useful list.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It starts being an excuse to disappear anyone you don't like.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Exactly. Americans are all now Palestinians.

    "A little-discussed detail in the Lavender AI article is that Israel is killing people based on being in the same Whatsapp group [1] as a suspected militant [2]. Where are they getting this data? Is WhatsApp sharing it?

    Lavender is Israel's system of "pre-crime" [3] - they use AI to guess who to kill in Gaza, and then bomb them when they're at home, along with their entire family. (Obscenely, they call this program "Where's Daddy")." source

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    So the user list from just about every social media site?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This "presidency" is reading like a comic book storyline. Maybe I should re-watch Camptain America: Winter Soldier.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Lmao if you think this is new, you haven't read much US history

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hey news, can you stop being so depressing? How about a news about a dog...who...defies all odda to...IDK...reunite with the young kid with cancer he loved. IDK, make something up...this shit is getting too bleak.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Like the government hasn’t had that since at least Sept 11,2001?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    They've had lists, and overly inclusive ones, but never this broad:

    “The Trump administration define[s] domestic terrorism incredibly broadly,” Slotkin said. “It suggests that any group that talks about anti-Christian values, views they don’t like on migration or race, differing views on the role of the family, religion, or morality could all be grounds for labelling an organization as domestic terrorists.”

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    He's just saying the quiet part out loud. I don't believe for a fucking second that previous administrations weren't making lists of political enemies.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    The new bit is how broad the criteria are for getting on the list.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    So it was fine when only radicals and minorities were on the list?

    All Trump has done is expand the repression to normal people. It's your problem too, now.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't know where you get the idea anyone thinks it was fine. We've known it was terrible ever since the early 2000s. It just got a bit worse.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The people warning us about Trump's list were silent about the other lists. Do you think Elissa Slotkin cared if Biden kept lists of anti-Zionists protesting the genocide? There are definitely some people who have been concerned about the lists of targets the government keeps no matter who the President is, but Senators don't give a shit unless their people are on the list.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    No one cares, especially the USA citizens. If they really cared Trump would be out yesterday.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Why not just pick people at random? The list is obviously useless.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I have lists of lists. We have the best lists there are!

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  • Watch dez nuts bitches.

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