Is the joke that hibernate and sleep states never seem to work right?
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Uptime is 99.99%, gotta reboot sometimes.
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But by the time the lid is up to reach the power button, it's already out of sleep and operationalβ¦
Lucky you! Mine just crashes when I try to enter Sleep mode leaving both screens on and frozen, and nothing at all working.
Maybe try the kernel parameter amd_iommu=off if you have an AMD CPU (and you're talking about Linux and not Windows). I had the same problem and this fixed it for me.
I remember when windows used to brag about incredibly fast boot times.
Now, my 5 yo gaming PC takes about 30 seconds to wake up to the password screen. While my Linux laptop takes 15 seconds to go from cold start to desktop.
For me I can reach the windows desktop in around 14 or 15 seconds (auto login), for most people the biggest bottleneck is a slow bios.
Linux and windows normally have very similar boot times at least on my hardware.
5600X
B550 AORUS ELITE
Intel 660p
@Sustolic @VitoRobles 15 years ago initng in linuxmint was doing magic; booting system to gnome2 desktop in 3 seconds from grub. On PCs with intel motherboard this was about 4 seconds from poweron. And moreover, this was on HDD.Now all systems are bloated and cannot boot in 3 seconds even on SSD
Meanwhile, my work Windows laptop is significantly slower to wake up now as I'm forced to hibernate it thanks to them removing S3 sleep in favor of the modern standby shit.
The problem is that by the time I have said that to them it's already to desktop. I cursed Myself by having an operating system that is fast and efficient and I also did not install 18 different applications that open at boot. So now I just feel left out from the group not waiting for my computer to finish booting :(
like when you drink water
100% of the time I drink water my mouth gets wet. I don't get it
Iβm pretty sure my average uptime for a Linux machine is like 10x my Windows PCs because theyβre that much more stable.
Yeah, if I'm not using the computer I turn it off because why would I be wasting electricity? So it's the same for windows or linux to me. You do need to reboot your computer sometimes anyway. For linux it's when you update the kernel. For windows you just have to reboot for similar reasons or after you've spent a bunch of time trying to figure out why something isn't working and then in desperation "try turning it off and turning it back on again". Better to just turn it off when you're done using it and turn it on when you need it again and many of those issues are avoided completely.
So I turn off my computer when I'm not using it and I save power AND so the computer doesn't get glitchy. It doesn't take much time for the computer to boot up, so there's not much reason to not just turn it off when I'm not using it.
You guys dont turn off your laptops?
Isn't it bad for the pc?
Oh my soul is too old lol
What you guys do instead?
Walk into an average mega corp office that is full of windows desktops, after everyone has left. Every pc is still on.
On like, suspend or hibernate?
I am afraid to put my lap on suspend overnight.
Hibernate is actually usefull if you have hectic works on standby and have to shutdown
We mandate that ours are left on for orchestration and maintenance purposes.
Oh! I should turn off my laptop. Thx for the reminder
I mean, why not turn it off when you're done with it?
Mixed theories on that, and most are older.
On earlier computers, I had several ICs walk themselves out of sockets due to repeated thermal expansion cycles. Keeping the computer turned on eliminates most of that.
Mechanical wear was another problem. Booting a computer was extremely taxing on old HDDs and floppy drives.
Edit: Mechanical stuff also takes much more power to spin up and get running. The energy savings might be measurable if you just kept a computer running and didn't power cycle it everyday.
Most power supplies are really well designed now but they had a tendency to spike power briefly in when turned on. This was especially bad for older capacitors but also not healthy for the ICs. This still happens to a degree, but it's not an issue.
Now that boot times are reasonably fast and most everything is solid state and power managed really well, turning a computer off is fine.
However, I just assume most electronics now just go into some type of deep sleep mode unless fully disconnected from any power source. That likely isn't true in many cases, but I consider it healthy level of paranoia.
Maybe I'm confused here. My Linux server has like 162 days of uptime. I reboot my home computer (arch BTW) like once a week when I remember. But my windows work laptop? If that thing stays on for more than three days shit starts falling apart at random, so it gets turned off nightly.
I (another Linux user) also don't get this.
The idea is that both my Linux systems run pretty smoothly with few reboots. But my Windows laptop for work starts to crap the bed if I don't reboot it every few days.
While windows users, just open their windows.
You guys turn your computer off?
Desktop: never. Laptop: always. Suspend: Will my laptop wake up? Who knows!
Desktop: Every single time I'm don't with it. For the moment. At most I might leave it on if I have to do something for an hour or two and then come back to it. At the end of the night it is always off. Laptop: sleep, always. Occasional restarts for Linux kernels updates.
I have to push it each time to turn on and off my IBM with Linux from the factory because it won't sleep when the lid is closed and overheats in my laptop bag.
I know there is probably a fix somewhere on the internet,but I just wanna use my computer, not constantly fix it.
Is this about crappy suspension support?
Is this about windows always turning on/waking my computer for no god damned reason every few hours, thus ensuring my computer is always on?
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