You definitely won’t regret chaining 500 Raspberry Pis together.
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I've often thought about this, if you're actually using the waste heat from a PC does that mean its basically 100% energy efficient?
This seems like a really cool idea, although I'm not quite sure what happens in the summer when all this compute power gets shut off
They did always say the Cloud is just someone else's computer.
The only difference is you might know the bloke. And that he might try scrapping the copper
Can't I just use one Raspberry Pi but run Java on it?
Lol, I misread that as Raspberry Pi 500, and thought to myself: it couldn't have been that hot.
I would run folding at home or seti to warm my room back in college. It was surprisingly effective when I kept the door closed.
That said, I don't particularly want someone else's server equipment in my home unless I get root too.
GPU server rentals (AI) "from home" have a payback of about 1 year from some utility supplies. Solar brings it down to well under 1 year, and works well with no utility export ever, and can support up to near constant 80%/amps power draw. Averaging 50 amps will look like a grow op.
A smallish 5000w server/utility room (same as electrical/battery room usually designed to be large enough for a boiler/furnace + hot water tanks, and a bit extra storage) will heat room well above 35C. A cheap(est) air source heat pump can make 85C water at 2+ COP, and normal 65C hot water at 4+ COP. Simple CPU/GPU watercooling systems that blow towards the air source heat pump can bring input air to 45C.
What "rentable home server" functions provide is allowing maximum solar to support an EV off grid, storing up hot water in fall for hydronic floor heating, and helping top it up on sunny winter days. Turning off the servers for the worst 2 solar months of the year. Using EV to reverse charge home in worst winter conditions a better option than a gasoline generator.
There are also (unfortunately tend to be expensive) stackable plastic water containers that can help create a warm water reservoir while cooling surrounding computer racks/servers and batteries if you keep them in same room. DIY bendable aluminum sheet water troughs is much cheaper and just needs a toilet mechanism to turn off refilling valve.
Idk my Intel based System 76 Lemur Pro does well in the Texas winter when the grid goes down.
If the grid goes down, how do you expect to power the Intel space heater?
Its got a nice battery, but beyond that I am counting on white jesus
Why not any gpu mining any coin?
Probably not worth it.
If you need heat, mining anything is free money.
That's only true if we're comparing GPU mining to resistive heating. Both are equally efficient at converting electrical energy to heat: 100%.
The numbers don't look nearly as good when we compare GPU mining to a heat pump. Heat pumps utilize an additional, uncounted source of free energy (outdoor heat). Since we aren't counting that additional energy, the electrical efficiency of the heat pump is much greater than 100%.
If you don't have enough GPU power to meet your heating needs, there's a capital cost to get more (and depending on your existing setup, likely even more capital costs for other components to be able to run it in a separate system).
Nothing is free. Your equipment depreciates, so you need to account for that. Might be worthwhile if you have solar panels, a battery and use dynamic pricing. So you can charge the battery with solar and when electricity costs next to nothing, so you can run the equipment for heating of the battery when you get home in the afternoon which is usually when electricity prices go up. But end of the day it’s cheaper to just burn gas or use a heat pump if you just want to heat your home. And the heat a GPU array generates is probably not enough. The more efficient the GPU is with mining the less heat it generates, so the heat output per dollar input goes down. Not to mention the cost of a single GPU or ASIC miner.
That's how I heated my university dorm that only had a boiler for heating. Figured it was safer than a space heater and wouldn't require me to haul an additional object home every summer, plus funded my lavish college diet of ramen and "how many soda refills can I get with my 99 cent McDonald's cup'.
Built a script to monitor the rooms air temperature and throttle mining accordingly to ensure that the room stayed within a few degrees of what I wanted. Would start up automatically after a few minutes away from my machine and stop if I was using the machine.
Now if they allowed the customer to rent these and were profit-sharing, this’d be interesting. Instead it’s one step away from a boring capitalist dystopia
German Thermify: https://www.cloudandheat.com/
That's interesting. I don't really understand it too well from the compute side of things though. Sounds like that's at the whim of whoever has their heat running. And what happens if they want to turn the heat off before the job is done?
Nice concept, but imho also a potential security threat, letting someone run something on your computer in your network.
Would need more technical details and by now I couldn't find it on their page
There's a next to zero percent chance this wouldn't run on its own network.
A dedicated network connection at each site in being installed, so householders don't have to worry about HeatHub eating all their broadband bandwidth, the company told us
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That's a really cool idea. I wonder how it deals with waste heat in the summer, when one wouldn't typically want to warm their home.
This is uh ... cool

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