A platform without ads or evil corpo ownership? Yeah, I'd scared too.

R/Lemmy is banned -> it's afraid!

top 73 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fucking bunker boy couldn't take it anymore that there is something slightly better.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Wait. Why did it get banned though?

  • source
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    In r/RedditAlternatives they explain that the mod, while still an active account (reportedly posting a lot in r/Lebanon), basically has left r/Lemmy unmoderated. (You can find more details about what happened by visiting r/Lemmy using old reddit, it would seem) So it makes sense actually.

    The fact is, anyone interested in Lemmy isn't going to be talking about it to Redditors on Reddit in a sub dedicated solely to Lemmy... anymore.

    The Threadiverse won that battle, as much as it can, and now development continues forward with PieFed that is even more highly received and recommended by Redditors (Reddit hates tankies far more than we do here). Thus there is no more need for a r/Lemmy. 🎉🥳

  • source
  • parent
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    I can never block reddit. My go-to workflow for buying any product is usually:

    1. Perplexity / Claude: "what are some good recommendations for ?"
    2. Skim what it writes, mentally note that it's probably extrapolating from little data on
    3. Scroll down to the sources, click on the Reddit ones.
    4. Check that the date is somewhat reasonably in the past (+3yrs is always good)
    5. Scroll to that one single comment that provides insightful feedback

    This is why I never deleted my reddit accounts after I migrated -- I just couldn't throw away all of the hard written insightful comments I'd made there over ~15 years, and knew that an AI (and by extension future me) might find it beneficial.

    (I'm not against AI, I'm against what capitalism is doing with AI)

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago*

    I’m not an anti AI zealot either, but frankly humans can skim search results and “link dive” way better than current LLMs can, if they’re familiar with the web.

    Sometimes I use GLM 4.6's deep research mode with a link to go off as a supplement (I’d recommend that over Claude; it’s great! And open weights!), but 90% of the time just poking through Google/DDG with a filter to block SEO/AI spam yields better reviews. We can just parse more links and make better snap “credibility” judgements than LLMs can.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    mine is r/nursing. there's just not a significant enough presence of any healthcare workers let alone nurses specifically for me to properly commiserate with. Every once in a while I get into a mood to post some memes or otherwise engage but I get a few likes and maybe one comment at most and wind up giving up after a few days.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Genuinely curious, theoretically how valuable would a once and done service install of a private open source machine learning model on your local network that can do that skimming functionality be for you? A private box thats setup and just works? Is that even something people would want?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Very useful, especially for static pre-2022 information. If these models were <5GB in size, I'd happily have the model always sitting in memory on my raspberry Pi waiting for me to ask it something.

    For newer data though, you cannot beat the army of trawlers and the constant retraining that the commercial models offer... though given the nature of the steadily poisoned information sources post-2022, their effectiveness in this is steadily diminishing.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 132 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It happened?

    That's incredible! May reddit become a husk filled with moms from Facebook.

  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Reddit seems to be in purge mode so that the AI doesn't develop too many problematic leftist opinions. I was looking back to an old post critizing CS Lewis and the comments were absolutely nuked since my last visit.

  • source
  • hideshow 13 child comments
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Does it have to try hard? Didn't leftist remove themselves from a lot of places and purge their own comments?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 10 child comments
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Didn’t leftist remove themselves from a lot of places and purge their own comments?

    There's definitely been an Exodus since 2020. But prior to that, it was a long running guerrilla war of leftists fighting to find footholds in the system and evade bans, while Reddit Corporate implemented increasingly draconian purges.

    Less of a problem since 2022, so they pivoted to going after anyone solidly progressive. Then anyone left-liberal. Now anyone who isn't an outright MAGAt.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    The response though is interesting to me because when the right faced the same pressure it rallied them. They made so much noise and used every lever they could. Like the littlest 86 year old Republican grandpa took to online accounts and became obsessed with making sure people could say racist facist bullshit online. But people on the left retreated. We said things like "don't wressle with pigs" like we're better than it all. When I bring this up to people the say "well they're just funded" but it's like they don't understand that funding probably paid for a lot of accounts to convince us to retreat. My 2 cents anyways.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I think people on the left retreated because their ideals don't involve violence and hate in the first place, so they just didn't want to be tangled up in it. I'm only so motivated to interact with nazi scum, I'd much rather not, so yeah, they can have their spaces because I don't have the mental capacity to live my life peacefully and also fight with idiots on the internet.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    But you understand retreating gives Nazi scum access to more eyes and ears which grows louder and bolder nazi scum. Like you can choose to disengage but it's only momentarily. It now isn't just online, you're probably seeing family and friends or coworkers or random conversations waiting for coffee that sound questionable. It's easier to put a fire out when it's smoulder then when it's engulfing half the forest. You can walk away when it's smouldering but it's only going to grow

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    I know, but I also have a life, and I'm just trying to not be fucking angry all the time already, so no, I can't fight every fucking moment, and currently it's not the nazis agitating me, it's you telling me I need to be angry. Don't fucking tell me what I see with my own eyes in the world I fucking live in, Im quite aware, thanks, and I'd like to perseve as much peace in it as I can.

    Trust me when I say I have to fight on my own terms, if that's not good enough for you, you can also rot with the nazis

    E: don't take it personally, I'm more angry with the sentiment than with the person who says it, it ain't you

    E2: Fuck you got me started LOL. Look, for clarity, I have spent my entire life as the angry righteous idealogue you want people to be, and let me tell you, it has produced nothing but misery in my life, so I'm disengaging with that part of me as best I can. If that's my story, I imagine other people have similar experiences. Not every fight is with blood, some of them are with compassion and understanding. Those are the ones I want to fight until the bloody fight comes to me

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Lol I get it, so no need to apologize. I just think we did it all wrong. We get angry because something is missing from our approach. Like there's some injustice. I'm not saying people need to be out there every day engaging with toxic assholes or bots. But I do think we all should recognize that not doing that, is helping the spread of these fuckers. One thing I noticed is people of the left had different goals and then people on the right and that burnt them out. The right approached online spaces like they were meeting friends to make fun of and pick on the left. The left was only reacting to things as they happened. They weren't having fun with any of it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, the disconnect behind the methodologies and desires allows open spaces to be filled with loud hateful idiots, it's hard to just progress as a society when one side is so motivated to be hateful in the vacuum of saner people going elsewhere. Not entirely sure what to do about that. It feels like a paradox or a catch 22, it's hard on the psyche to inhabit a space that's hostile, but moving out of it just enables loud hateful idiots to be louder, and feel they arent opposed until that space becomes a walled garden of nazis and bots circlejerking their hate.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Which i think is why we approached it wrong. I watched something with Lefty's where they just want to be right. When that doesn't happen they get so mad. Like an injustice has occurred. What I noticed with rightys are they enjoy watching the lefty attempt to change their view while fully knowing it'll never happen. It's like some schadenfreude. I think we need that. Logic and reason will come later with some people. I think it's recognize you're dealing with an immovable object and just turn it into a play thing

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    if that’s not good enough for you, you can also rot with the nazis

    E: don’t take it personally

    The Left and the Right share a lot more in common than either side is willing to admit. The Left eats its own, and tells others what to do exactly in an analogous manner as to the Right. Just looking around at the calls for casual murder, I am reminded of having seen the same from the "other side". I've given up any hope of a rational dialogue with virtually everyone on the internet, but kudos for trying to speak truth rather than give up the good fight. We need more of that imho.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    it’s like they don’t understand that funding probably paid for a lot of accounts to convince us to retreat

    Easy to forget that Social Media is a game in which the scores are made up and the points don't really matter. People just get very tied up in their ahem Social Credit Score as it were. They seem frighteningly quick to torch their own reputations with IRL peers in order to score some cheap digs for the applause of a fully automated audience.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I do enjoy that Lemmy has been going so strong, it's been a very long while since I've heard this.

    Just wish MelbourneTrains was active over here :(

    I've looked over the fence. Very sad people aren't posting here! And there's many posts a day there!

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I am, the 2 most recent posts in the last 7 months are me! :(

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fun fact, I got banned from reddit the other day for saying something sarcastic. So I did the appeal thing, but all I said was "Fuck you, you fucking gaggle of cave brained cunts." And... they reversed the ban. So I guess, they dont even bother reading whatever shit you write in the appeal, they just look at the comment and uphold or rescind the bot ban. Pricks.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You can't access it if not on the app.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago
    [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Here I am! Ready to overthrow Reddit!

  • source
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I’m fairly certain linking Lemmy, even once, yields a shadow ban.

    I cant even make a new Reddit account for anything, even from a relatively new IP after moving.

  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't think so. I see people on r/fediverse linking it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Mmm, I don't like that, as now I have no idea why I'm shadowbanned.

    And by that, I don't mean "I don't know why I was banned for all my outrageous spammy comments." I literally only posted wholesome, inoffensive, thought out stuff in 2 subs: a cartoon fandom and a self hosting community.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, they've been ringing the ban hammer quite hard lately.

    I love lemmy, but I still miss my niche communities.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Is that neonazi subreddit that uses baby speak to subvert the admins still around?

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I guess? I only heard about it long after I quit reddit. It's banned now and it may have been banned even before I quit for all I know. Someone here mentioned it a few weeks ago and that's the only way I knew it ever existed.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I bet they'd allow /r/mlemy

    How long would it take for them to notice I wonder?

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I do. I mention Lemmy whenever I reddit

  • source
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I'm here aren't I

  • source
  • load more comments
    view more: next ›