Yeah, the disconnect behind the methodologies and desires allows open spaces to be filled with loud hateful idiots, it's hard to just progress as a society when one side is so motivated to be hateful in the vacuum of saner people going elsewhere. Not entirely sure what to do about that. It feels like a paradox or a catch 22, it's hard on the psyche to inhabit a space that's hostile, but moving out of it just enables loud hateful idiots to be louder, and feel they arent opposed until that space becomes a walled garden of nazis and bots circlejerking their hate.

if that’s not good enough for you, you can also rot with the nazis

E: don’t take it personally

The Left and the Right share a lot more in common than either side is willing to admit. The Left eats its own, and tells others what to do exactly in an analogous manner as to the Right. Just looking around at the calls for casual murder, I am reminded of having seen the same from the "other side". I've given up any hope of a rational dialogue with virtually everyone on the internet, but kudos for trying to speak truth rather than give up the good fight. We need more of that imho.