Recent reports have announced that Crunchyroll, the largest anime streaming service, will be replacing Aegisub with Israeli Software, OOONA, to produce subtitles more efficiently. Anime fans across the world are disappointed with this collaboration due to Israel’s ongoing genocide against Palestinians (via a report by the United Nations Commission of Inquiry).

Crunchyroll is also ignoring the needs of groups who require Closed Captions to understand the scenes better. They are isolating a large chunk of their audience in favor of AI-based subtitling, which defeats the point of a streaming service. Overall, this hasn’t been a great year for Crunchyroll, and this won’t be the end of it.

EDIT: Link was taken down thanks to someone in the comments here's the archive for the page https://web.archive.org/web/20251004184506/https://fandomwire.com/crunchyroll-faces-cancelation-why-anime-fans-are-choosing-piracy-after-latest-update/

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    I'm doing my part!

    My renewal was literally tomorrow too. As these streaming services get worse, I keep on cancelling. Been two years for Prime (literally smashed cancel the day ads were announced) and all i've got left at this point is netflix and spotify.

    Netflix pricing almost has me there.

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    I'd cancel it in a heartbeat but my wife would murder me.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Buying music on Bandcamp and similar has been good for me. When I got laid off I kept all the music I owned and didn't have to pay anymore. All these subscription services suck.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm never, ever buying digital licenses to video or audio content. My limit is games because avoiding it is kind of impossible.

    Too many platforms close down. I've lost licenses from the Impulse acquisition and subsequent shutdown, plus one or two others. Any day these guys can just put up a 30 day notice and rip everything out of your library. Usually this happens after an acquisition... looks like bandcamp was sold in 2023 and the buyers shitcanned half the staff too.

    Disks are cheap and piracy works until they enforce digital IDs for all connectivity on the internet. At that point we'd be back to swapping thumb drives.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Honest question, did you try self-hosted music?

    Few weeks ago I thought this was a joke but... there is a TON of stuff out there already.

    From the "rough"

    to having mobile apps

    • navidrome (with updates via lidarr)

    to minimalist

    to federated

    to handling discovery

    ... there is just so much out there!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Edit: since I wrote this message (15min ago) I setup LMS thanks to podman and shared it via ngrok and my wife can listen to my music on her phone instantly.

    So... yeah it's that quick and convenient.

    Is it perfect, definitely not, but it's also very quick to get started and to reconsider.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Spent another 5min to scp the container and ~/Music on my RPi5, which I keep on 24/7, has a 512Go microSD and tailscale... and I guess that's it, I have my own music server. I don't have discovery on though but still, already useful!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Another update on that front, I added on my RPi5 :

    • yt-dlp which I use with its -x audio only option on RSS feeds from DJs
    • tested then added that to nightly crontab to get updates
    • configured LMS for hourly database scan
    • tone in order to update tags on files and try to organize my ~/Music directory

    So it's still nowhere near as good as the music streaming service I used so far BUT it's getting there!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    what is tone? curious on how you set up the rss feed ingest as well if you would be open to sharing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    tone

    this one https://github.com/sandreas/tone "tone is a cross platform audio tagger and metadata editor to dump and modify metadata for a wide variety of formats, including mp3, m4b, flac"

    regarding RSS feed I just download them regularly, e.g on crontab one can add 0 3 * * * cd ~/Music && ~/bin/yt-dlp -x https://hearditherefirst.blog/category/dubstep/feed/ but if you need something a bit more refine with filtering consider e.g. jc --xml withjq and `wget.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was recently turned on to Stremio + Torrentio and it’s very good. I’m considering making a Pi5 device dedicated to it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Netflix has been enshityfying and on the capitalist death spiral for YEARS, cancel that shit and spend your money on a VPN and some hard drives...

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I've been paying for a VPN for over a decade and I am up to about 20TB of used disks. Make of that what you will.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Your setup isn't modern enough and you still find convenience in paying for Netflix?

    I don't know what else to make of it...

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Not far off. Most of what i've setup originates from a plex lifetime sub. Maintenance is completely trivial.

    Every time I hear about the next thing I think about modernizing which then requires standing up something new. New shit requires a new virtual host and completely new setups of many things. Then training my wife and others on how to utilize the new tech, and then praying it doesn't just break tomorrow from The Establishment in some way.

    Plex is one of the very few solutions that works with minimal sideloading and fuckery. My instructions for someone to start using it are "download the app, check your email for an account link, and enjoy." I would not recommend any newcomers to go with Plex though, because it's definitely not a modern solution.

    I've tried jellyfin, I put substantial time into trying to get it to work but it had substantial issues with subtitles which are mandatory for us unfortunately. I figure any new solution is going to also have substantial challenges in some way as there is no standardized or simple deployment of absolutely anything.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I've tried jellyfin, I put substantial time into trying to get it to work but it had substantial issues with subtitles which are mandatory for us unfortunately. I figure any new solution is going to also have substantial challenges in some way as there is no standardized or simple deployment of absolutely anything.

    Yeah, I have Jellyfin running alongside Plex, (luckily, they happily run side-by-side with the same library), but I consistently find myself using Plex instead. I want to like Jellyfin. I want it to succeed. And Jellyfin is like 80% of the way there… But that remaining 20% is a real sticking point, and I almost always end up falling back to Plex after trying (and getting frustrated with) Jellyfin.

    It’s an unpopular opinion on Lemmy because of the FOSS mentality, but Jellyfin simply isn’t mature enough to fully replace Plex in many peoples’ setups. Especially when you consider the whole “getting friends and family to convert” side of things, where Plex handily beats Jellyfin in regards to account and app setup; I can walk my mother-in-law through setting up Plex, but Jellyfin adds a whole new level to the equation when she would need to sideload the app onto her TV.

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  • Agreed wholeheartedly.

    I built out bluefin as a panacea to issues I had with subtitles on a set of media on my plex server and it couldn't even give me subtitles.

    I hear a lot of rave reviews for Kodi, but that's serverless so now I need to open up storage or setup a vpn server and isolate a vlan... and how in the everliving fuck am I going to explain configuring this? Oh, and that needs sideloading too and if I go with a vlan now they need to figure out how to connect their device to a VPN. That's a nightmare.

    Sure, I can setup Kodi at home on my TV device and leave plex as is but i'm no closer to a server based transcoding solution. That sucks.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I use plex also because I have a lifetime sub. Totally agree.

    Switch from VMS to docker. Use NAS to keep the media, and store your compose stacks somewhere backed up, then all you need is one host with docker/podman and a repeatable configuration driven deployment. Start adding apps with compose files, no new host setups, no significant resource needs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Netflix makes dope original productions in my experience; I've watched many of their shows and enjoyed them.

    It's not wrong to give money to studios that produce good content. What's important IMO is that the money really goes to the studios, and not to some big banks trying to leech off it.

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  • [–] 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh, didn't realize this. Had a rolling sub which I never bothered to cancel as I very occasionally watch with mates, but have now cancelled it.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago*

    When property is valued over people, piracy is protest. Pirating undermines a system that guards profit while neglecting humanity. Every download is a refusal to accept laws that protect wealth over well-being.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Kind of miss how much effort went into fan subs, with notes explaining things that didn't exactly translate without context...

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not just the notes, but I feel like they put more effort into making sure the text doesn't blend with what is on screen. Instances on Netflix of some shows where there will be white text with a white background, and the text has no drop shadow or black border.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Oh man, I remember seeing things go from burned in subs to sub tracks with all kinds of nice functional markup and managed font color schemes and such to... Slapping white text with no border/shadow in the bottom middle of the video unconditionally without formatting...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Well the advantage of having the subtitles be a text overlay over the video is that the subtitles can be separated from the video; like, you can switch them off and on and change languages (which i sometimes do as i speak multiple languages and am interested in how they translated it) without having to store multiple GB-sized video files - one for each language - for the same episode.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    What are you talking about? You can do text styling even with toggleable subs. It's why fansubbers started using .ass/ssa for subtitles back in 2005. No one sane has burned subs into the videos for more than 20 years at this point.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I would very much like a streaming service that makes it transparent what it actually spends its income on.

    Like - a streaming service where i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the studios/artists that actually produce the anime? I would take that.

    But right now i'm worried that i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the shareholders of the streaming provider as "profit" while the studio gets almost nothing.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah... sweet summer child you might not want to read Chokepoint Capitalism. It's closer to 99% for BigContent lawyers and right holders and less than 1% for actual creators.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lol, I'm sure it's a good book and Cory Doctorow is well renowned, but I can't help but think: "Defeat Chokepoint Capitalism by buying our book right now!"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    And ironically enough even though most book by Doctorow might be DRM-free, maybe this one is, I can't remember.

    If you want I give you a free TL;DR: it's not just monopolies, it's also monopsies. When we feel trapped by buying with Amazon we often forget that authors often have the same feeling. So the "chokepoint" is not 1-sided but 2-sided.

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  • [–] 104 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    All the streaming services are unethical now, both in pricing and operation. Netflix is maybe the least bad, but I can’t justify the cost for that, either.

    Stremio + Torrentio is the way to go.

    What happens next is like what happened in the 2000s. People will turn to piracy as legitimate content is no longer feasible, affordable, or ethical. Then the corporate oligarchs will crack down violently to make examples of the people they’ve given no other choice or recourse.

    It’s time to eat the rich.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Netflix charges me, a single guy, for 4 simultaneous streams if I want 4k. So I shared with my parents.

    Then they had the audacity to stop people from password sharing or to charge even more if you want to share. I set up an automatic email forward so my parents get every sign in related email.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    people they’ve given no other choice or recourse

    I don't know, I find I also have the option to not consume media that I can't pay for or justify ethically. For instance, the only streaming service we have a subscription for is The Criterion Channel.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I'm looking for an ethical anime streaming service rn, and i'd be willing to pay for it (like, $10/month). Any options at all?

    Like, "ethical" means that the money is used to keep the studio running that is producing the anime; not that the money goes to some big banks to profit off anime.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Even if you make good money, it is still ethically questionable to support predatory practices and financially reward the objectively evil. Piracy is ethically neutral at worst and can easily be interpreted as a net positive, at least where it comes to most media. I deliberately choose to support some obscure stuff with my dollar because I want its creators to succeed and my conscience is clean.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    Animelab died for this

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well shit. If this goes through I'll have to cancel

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  • [–] [S] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Greed kills

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  • Funnily enough, i was considering just today whether i should re-open my old Crunchyroll account. But i guess i won't do it now after all. IIRC there's been a streak of bad press about crunchyroll; like, this today isn't the only issue.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    These mutherfuckers forgot where they came from! Time to remind them

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Corporations can't stand it a logarithmic graph. They need freaking geometric progressions, and then they do stuff that gets them an anti-logarithmic graph.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Ahh good ol' Aegisub. I have great memories of subtitling anime in my late teens before I got a girlfriend and the fansub scene died when Crunchyroll took over.

    I was also one of the people helping test Aegisub on Linux (2009-ish), I wasn't a programmer at the time but I remember a dude called 'verm' in the IRC channel who did a bunch of work to make Aegisub stable on Linux. He taught me the difference between little endian and big endian, I guess he was bored that day

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  • [+] 57 points 1 year ago* (15 children)
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    Maybe instead of everyone calling it isreal and palestine, they should say the isreali government and innocent people.

    They should say Netanyahu is committing genocide.

    Saying israel instead of directly naming the culprits is sort of like when people say antifa. In the case of antifa it makes bad actors able to demonise the word and make it seem like a bad thing, so it can be used to twist peoples minds and make them think its a bad thing.

    In the case of this genocide, it dehumanises the people committing the atrocities and diverts blame to the word instead of the people. Which has the effect of people like Netanyahu being able to reassociate the word with the israeli people and the jews.

    So it absolutely isnt antisemitic to say israel is committing genocide, but it is unhelpful to divert the blame from the real asshats in charge.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    Genocide is wildly popular in Israel right now

    "Dubbed the “Sderot cinema” by Israelis online, watching Israel’s bombardment has become a popular pastime; people take turns looking through tower viewers. Some bring popcorn and snacks, and some snap selfies as the thud of airstrikes echo in the distance.

    “When I look at Gaza from here and see buildings still standing, it makes me upset. … I want Israel to continue until it’s all flattened,” Rafael Hemo, an onlooker told CNN."

    Edit fixed link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/global-outrage-has-grown-after-two-years-of-bombardment-in-gaza-in-israel-it-is-a-different-story/ar-AA1NSQWj

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Ok, but fascism is wildly popular in the USA right now. Would you make the same argument there?

    Or, like me, are you more inclined towards believing that more likely a few terrible people in power have sway with a vast number of easily led racists and that mischaracterises the whole country?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Ok, but fascism is wildly popular in the USA right now.

    Yes, we're a fascist country now.

    But more to the point, brining up a country that was founded on Genocide of Native Americans to argue that we shouldn't speak ill of a country founded on Genocide of Palestinians is wild.

    a few terrible people in power have sway with a vast number of easily led racists

    This describes both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. Again, weird take unless you're pushing for us to drop the Nazi label from 1933-1945 Germany.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Ok, so, you are not a fascist country, you are a country run by fascists with fascists in it. But this doesn't represent the values of the entire population. Especially when trump rigged the election (by his own admission) that means that not even the majority are fascists. And then you have to exclude all those who voted for trump because they were duped by his campaign who aren't fascist and are just more republican and 4ight leaning than left.

    I feel the same way about israel and palestine. We are quick to speak to the separation of hamas and palestine as a whole, but when it comes to israel, the same voices are shouting its the whole country and not just a genocidal organisation and their followers.

    I think its an important distinction.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    If our country finishes it's transition to fascism and I did nothing to stop that, I'll have to own that. Inaction will lump me in with the fascists. Neutrality makes me a guilty party; for evil to triumph, all good men must do is nothing. History isn't kind to collaborators regardless of their reasons.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I hope you are doing your bit to stop it. You are clearly passionate about it. I just worry that too many people feel hopeless because it looks worse than it really is, which is the very tool the fascists need to win. Much like you say, apathy and inaction is what will destroy the world.

    I am sorry to see so many downvoting me during this exchange. I don't feel like i oppose your views, i just have a different perspective. I think its healthy to allow others views to help to shape your own. Even if all it does it reaffirms your already held beliefs. If i was to think of an example of this, i would compare it to the characters in always sunny in philadelphia. They are not the heroes of the story, they are assholes, they are a charicature example of what not to be. They reaffirm my position against that type of person and those types of views.

    I hope you are safe over there. Its a scary place to live right now, or at least it seems it from the outside looking in.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What makes you think that relabelling Palestinians as 'innocent people' to prevent Netanyahu and his fascists from their Doublethink redirection of genocide to only be relevant to Jews but not Palestinians would work? They would immediately reframe 'innocent people' as Hamas-embedded terrorist supporters - they already do it. The better action is to call out the truth (Israel is committing genocide) and say it loudly as much as possible, one of many benefits is that businesses and artists and people don't actually want to be associated with a genocide and we're seeing that impact daily.

    When people say "Israel is committing genocide" they mean the government of Israel, it is implied. It is silly to extrapolate it to blame for every man woman and child in Israel. Just as it would be silly to pin it down to only Netanyahu when he is the PM of far-right government with thousands of people directly supporting and enabling his actions, and is Israel's longest serving prime minister - voted in multiple times by clear majority in elections, so while only he and his government are accountable to their actions, a large swathe of Israel is responsible for him being there.

    Just as when people say "the USA has just bombed Iran unprovoked" they clearly mean the current government of the USA has taken this action - not just Trump, and also not some kid playing basketball in Philadelphia.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Thats a fine argument, and i agree with you. But I'm not talking about people who understand the implication behind naming the country and not the individuals. I am specifically saying that there are swathes of people who hear the word israel and its not a government, its not a country, its a terrorist, its a more abstract scary monster thing and for those people, it shifts blame from the government, to the country as a whole. Just like what happened with antifa. Antifa doesnt mean anti fascist to idiots. It means terrorist.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And the Spotify ceo just stepped down so he could focus on weapons systems for Israel. The people running all of our media services are Nazis.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Fascism is the natural end stage of capitalism. Plenty of businesses that have no core connection and competency with the military are embedding themselves into the military. For now, most of the US top brass loathe the Trump administration, but eventually they will be replaced by loyalists. We might get a real life Enclave if something isn't done to rid the fascists.

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    The pirate life is the only life for me.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    And it's been working for decades, always getting laughed at by the newest hype but yet again persisting.

    Also it turns out companies do it and it wouldn't work otherwise (see ai training)

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