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[–] 161 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I don't call them Nazis because I dislike them, I dislike them because they're Nazis.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    No they are fascists, Nazi was the shorthand for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), the first 4 letters.

    Fascism gets its name from Italy, Mussolini's Fascist Party, but it is the name for the political ideology as a whole, there is no Nazism and Americans being called Nazis is kinda weird, imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.

    Thanks for coming to my stickler talk.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    I don't live in America, and many people here actually do use MAGA or Trumpism to describe the local right wing people and parties because they are largely just copying America...

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  • [+] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)
  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Nazi doesn't mean national socialist, as I said it's literally just the first 4 letters, a shorthand a nickname, American version for Republicans would be Repu/Repus.

    Lots of people I have seen that think it's Nazi because the Sozialistische has the Zi, it's nonsense, Nazional is how germans pronounce National, hence it's shortened to Nazi.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I call them Repubs at this point because they don't want to say things like "Democratic politicians" opting instead for "Democrat politicians" because they're worried democratic sounds too good.

    I think republican sounds too good. They don't want a republic, they want a tyrant.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    So, tyrannist? Hmm that's not catchy. Maybe just autocrat but that doesn't contain the root of the word tyrannus. Best I got for ya.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    I love the channel too, but I haven't watched any of it for about a year. I just don't have the mental energy to get that into so many topics that, while they're objectively bad, don't apply much to me as a non-american. Just the daily reading of posts from lemmy and the grounded app, both worldwide and local to me can be too much some days. It sucks cause I like the show and podcast, and love their humor, but there's not really any way to interact with it without diving deep into fucked up shit.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Oh! This is the guy who talked about what a shithead Fetterman was even before the stroke! I could never find it again but I remember his face.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, some more news is one of my favourites. I tend to listen to it like a podcast when i am driving to and from work. But the visuals help sometimes.

    Its a great showdy.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They release both Some More News, and their related show Even More News as podcasts as well, for those who prefer that format.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I try to listen to SMN once in a while, but I often leave it for when I can watch the video. It needs different editing to truly work as a podcast, there's a lot of info presented as pictures or graphs and skimmed over by the narration. And you miss all the jokes made by the title card monkey.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Their 3 hours takedown of Jordan Peterson is epic.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Cody seems so dispirited for months. Not that I blame him at all.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    We've all been dispirited for months bud. Anyone who acts otherwise is either ignorant or hiding it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have a coworker that is not a trumpet and not dispirited. They positively radiate denial. They don't watch news or keep up on current events. Just a total ostrich.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yet they are the ones that have energy to do the dishes. Following politics is exhausting!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    And that's by design too isn't it? Keep everyone exhausted keep everyone busy keep everyone watching everything and there's too much for any one person to follow, any group to follow and so if they throw enough at the wall some of it's going to stick and that's what they've been doing for the past two Trump terms and that's what they're going to continue doing.

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  • [–] [S] 74 points 1 year ago

    "It is the correct word for donald trump and the people around him"

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Watched this yesterday and "Charles Entertainment Kirk" fucking murdered me

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Got a link? I don't know who this is but my curiosity is piqued.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The post includes a link to the very video, but here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD3rSA4FSqk

    It's a very good analysis of political violence in the US. Cody Showdy generally does great work discussing not just the news, but the olds too. Fair and Balanced™©® and all that.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Generally, the people who claim the meaning has changed or been watered down are fascists or their sympathizers or prescriptivists that fail to understand how language evolves. Watch them come out of the woodwork to explain how nobody is a nazi because the National Socialist party doesn't exist anymore. Buncha stupid fucking bastards.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    A dead giveaway is when they start throwing around the word ‘nuance.’

    It must be in the script they’re all taught, because every closet fascist or astroturfer loves defending fascist policies and actions with “nuance.”

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance"

    -Albert Maysles

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    They're not literally gassing people, so they can't be nazis. It's only after the fact we get to ask who could have seen this coming.

    You know, like they practice with school shootings every day. Desensitization is a big part.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    For the first: those are just idiots being idiots. The word isn't watered down by idiots usage. The word still means the same things. It just means the population around you that believes this is fascist adjacent and an idiot.

    Again hard disagree. It still means diddling kids. There just more idiots around and are more vocal.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I think I choose to not let it get watered down then? It has meaning I know the meaning. Idiots have always existed.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Uh lots to unpack here. One of you get called a imp because you're shy you just ran into bullies. Bullies have always used words to belittle people it's what makes them bullies.

    IF you are repeatedly getting called a simp by multiple individuals in different settings, the common denominator is you. Seek mental health help.

    Your post comes across as whiny. 2+2=4. Sure, many people could come around and tell me 2+2=5 but at the end of the day it's my choice on who to believe. And they are still idiots lmao. This watering down isn't a thing. Their actions still are creating irrational and irresponsible policies that put many lives in danger.

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    Nah dawg you ain't gunna sit here and blame me calling a spade a spade is forcing people to Trump lmao. Also go touch grass you are touched. Words have meaning. You sitting here and saying just because idiots misuse those words somehow magically makes those words lose their meaning is not gunna fly. But I appreciate your tenacity for trying and I hope your projections are something you can work through. I believe in you.

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    Lol if a TV show touches you then you are the problem. Have you ever heard of just not watching it?

    I love how you try about me talking about you then proceed to make your post all about the "you" you think I am.

    You wrote all that for someone you don't over two sentences based on assumptions. Go touch grass you'll feel better.

    Again if someone says I'm depressed to me I take it seriously and talk to them lol. Hence it keeps it's meaning, the idiots get to say what they want, and all your words, time and effort are null.

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wish harm on them 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sir that is Cody's Showdy and he is a srs journalist not a shitposter

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The only good fascist is a very dead fascist.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was thinking that another exception would be those who open their eyes and leave it behind, but then they are no longer fascists. So you could say their old fascist self is essentially dead too.

    So while I do prefer this method as some ex-fascists may turn into anti-fascist advocates, and we can always use more help against fascism, it still doesn't really counter the adage.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I agree that people can (and hopefully do) change their mindset in regards to fascism. Those that do may turn out as you mentioned, advocating against it.

    I just don't have faith anymore in that happening anytime soon (although I really hope people see what's going on and change it).

    Also my original message is a title of a song by Propaghandi. I would recommend it if you're into more hardcore-esque punk.

    I'm still hoping and doing what little I can in the meantime.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    But I do wish harm on fascists...

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Just watched this a bit ago. Very good video.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    fuck that. I wish harm on fascists. lots of it. so much harm that other fascists are scared to even be associated with the word.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    That's step two or three, for sure. But the point being made is fascist isn't a word that can be applied to anyone and everyone (setting aside the 2¢ insult version) - it is a specific political ideology that one earns by their words and actions.

    Unfortunately it is also complex to diagnose, particularly in early stages, especially as intelligent budding fascists will deliberately evade the formal definitions while still finding ways to accomplish similar effects.

    But yes - there's also cases where fascists clearly and obviously are doing fascist things, and need to be stopped immediately, please feel free to give them a proper knuckle sandwich (or an appropriate grade of violence as the situation warrants)

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Words don't matter here. All that matters now, is action.

    Sabotage them any way you can!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    https://youtu.be/nD3rSA4FSqk?t=4982

    "What is it that you want people to do when you call them fascists?"

    We want you to stop being fascists, you blithering idiot!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    If you look like a fascist and talk like a fascist and act like a fascist you are probably a freaking fascist and that's the way people are going to deal with you until you give them evidence to the contrary.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Although by some coincidence, the people we call fascist tend to spend alot of their time wishing alot of harm on all sorts of people they hate.

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    Do other ethnic groups fill you with a mix of fear and hatred? Are you more comfortable being told what to do and think? Do you idolize the Military? Does "the enemy" seem both weak and strong to you?

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