The new and updated data-sharing options will be released in the next couple of weeks with the upcoming 2025.2.4 update of JetBrains IDEs. Non-commercial users will get a notification about the updates in the terms of use. For holders of other types of licenses, if you never provided consent, nothing will change.

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[–] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It sounds like they're contradicting themselves in the mail they sent:

Previously we said we wouldn’t use your inputs, data, outputs, or suggestions to train AI models. This is still the case, unless you explicitly allow us to do so

(emphasis not mine)

The word explicit doesn't IMO cover anything but informed opt-in, not opt-out of any kind.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    It looks like it's opt-in for everyone except those who get Ultimate for free (students, open-source maintainers, etc). Paid Ultimate is opt-in, free Ultimate is opt-out, and the free Community editions are opt-in with a for now attached.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's genuinely impressive how the whole ecosystem of proprietary software is speedrunning enshittification at an unprecedented rate. The net is tightening, and the only escape is FOSS.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    My conspiracy theory is that AI is already running our tech companies, and that’s why everyone and their brother is pushing hard for AI integration, despite everyone knowing AI is nowhere near ready for public consumption.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    CEO's are almost universally out of touch with reality, and usually chase trends thinking it will help them get higher profits and garner more investment. AI is just the newest bandwagon for them to mindlessly jump on.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I'm still running v2023.1 because that's the last version before they stuffed so much AI into it that my CPU screams constantly while running it. The writing is on the wall with those guys.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I feel there will be big JetBrains leak with all the stolen code they say it's secured with restricted access.

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    this is why i stil use sublime text. it edits code with none of the bloat.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Try Zed. It’s a lot like VSCodium (de-MS’d VSCode), but written in Rust, so it’s stupid fast.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    last i heard zed was ai slop :/

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is.

    https://zed.dev/ - check out the video on the front page. Most of it (2:08 - 6:18, the whole video is 8:40) is shilling for an integrated LLM.

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  • I mean… I just don’t plug in or use any of the LLM shit, and it works quite nicely. You’re not forced to use that part of it, no matter how much they try to market it.

    And if it gets to the point where it’s truly unavoidable, there’s always the “fork it and strip it” option, since the code is open source.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What frustrates me most is that jetbrains had a winning formula

    They made, imo, the best ide's, striking the balance between intuitive and useful without drifting too far into bloat

    I just don't vibe with jetbrains wanting access to my code and data and how i use the ide itself - imagine if your hammer took a picture every time it was swung while tracking the swing trajectory and force and sent it to a thousand unknown people

    its just fucking weird and its fucking weird that jetbrains presses this onto us - even as an opt-in its wierd

    Even at it most innocent, and not the reality of trying to build the tool that ousts us out of our trade and craft, i still dont want some code cuck sitting in the corner of my periphery hyperventilating on every keystroke and variable name i make

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Once they started pushing the AI shit, I immediately unsubscribed and am sticking to my perpetual/fallback (or whatever is it called) license. I don't see any reason to continue paying for new versions and features, when most of those new features are AI related, and I slowly started transitioning into nvim.

    Also, I really hate the tone in which this blogpost is written. As if crying in a blog post changes anything about how extremely anti-consumer this move is. Fuck off, JetBrains.

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