So have not one, not two, but THREE Chinese firms.
It turns out reusable rockets aren't something that requires serial explosions. It just requires good old-fashioned engineering.
So have not one, not two, but THREE Chinese firms.
It turns out reusable rockets aren't something that requires serial explosions. It just requires good old-fashioned engineering.
"OK, so, I want a Honda Civic, but for up and down instead of forwards and backwards."
Unironically, yes.
If Honda can make a rocket as reliable and cheap as a Civic, relatively, we all win.
I didn't know Honda made sex toys.
Technically, orbit is just forward, really, really fast. "Up" is incidental to the process.
Just wait until they add VTEC to it
Was that a sonic boom? Nah, rev limiter!
The aftermarket spoiler market for these will be huge.
I expect we’ll see SpaceX rockets with VTEC stickers trying to masquerade as performance rockets.
Now that's a diversification I didn't see coming. Not bad.
Time to invest in Honda.
Maybe they're gonna go full Yamaha.
Can't wait to play a Honda Tenor Saxophone.
Ehh they have an engine market problem. I've seen analysis that Honda isn't a car company, they're an engine company - cars, generators, lawn mowers, pumps, a whole whack of industrial things. They really need to shift to electric motors but even then it's not a 1 for 1.
About time. Took the market long enough. Bloody hell, it's like capitalism literally handed Musk this business on a golden platter.
This must terrify Musk and his SpaceX
It pleases me.
I doubt that. Spacex is miles ahead of the rest and they have bigger plans.
Sure they would rather have a monopoly on cheap rockets for as long as possible but they have always known people would be trying to catch them up
I don’t believe they have even hit space yet, the test was only from 1000 ft.
Still, cool as hell.
Wait. This is just more commodification of space.
Fuck that. And I will be against it until we figure out our fucking shit down here on the ground.
rivaling their ... 8 year old technology
not a fan of musk but spacex seriously leapfrogged everyone in the 2010s
Oh no their very first prototype test didn't catch up and surpass everything. Guess they're doomed. Better give up and stop trying.
Modern rockets have only been a thing for 70 years. 8 years is nothing. That would be like saying Rivian or Tesla can’t compete with Ford because they haven’t been making cars as long. Tesla didn’t have to spend a decade making the Model A or T before it figured out how to make cars effectively. Honda will also be able to spend less time making it to orbit than SpaceX did.
only to seemingly all turn into a shit show.
He's a shit show, but SpaceX is still doing great. They have more launches per year than any other company or country. While they've had multiple launches explode recently, that's their newer larger rocket where they're still working out kinks.
If they can't get that into shape eventually it could be a problem for the company, but their smaller rocket has a great record, reusable, a fraction of the cost of any other launch provider. Right now they're the only game in town for the U.S. getting to the ISS.
I'd love to see Musk ousted, and more importantly to see real competition from other private launch providers. But don't let Musk hate color your view of reality.
Fair enough, though he builds all his personal image on completely associating his whole being with the companies he runs. Apparently he is even the chief engineer of spaceX probably because he wants to feel like Tony Stark. It is hard to trust a company where he names him self the chief engineer because that means he can enforce stupid decisions only because it sounds cool to him. Then once in a while he comes up with ridiculous stuff like donating his sperm for the mars mission or stuff like this:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/
https://aflcio.org/sites/default/files/2025-04/Memo%20on%20Elon%20Musk%20OSHA%20cases_.pdf
https://tech.yahoo.com/science/articles/elon-musk-told-spacex-workers-181406484.html
Otherwise kudos to all the great engineers who work there but I am not optimistic unless he lessens his influence there.
Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it so.
Altitude of 300m …. This is older than 8 years, this corresponds to the first SpaceX tests …. I don’t see that level of historical detail, but Wikipedia lists a milestone of a recovered falcon 9 after launch to orbit. Hondas technology is somewhere over 15 years old …. And the article doesn’t say whether it’s comparable size or power, so no.
Down voted because you didnt immediately talk shit about someone. We all hate musk but it doesnt mean we have to claim it for every post.
from what I've heard musk and the HR head is basically destroying spacex from the inside?
i dislike their upper management but i still appreciate what the people there do, and think what they're doing is incredible
lemmy doesn't seem to like nuance unfortunately
They really did! Starship could be a similar leap, if it pans out. It would be an incredible jump in launch capacity and a dramatic drop in price.
I like Honda, you can drive those cars into the ground, they just keep going.
Now if they can pull that off with a rocket...
I love that space travel is becoming so democratized now.
It shouldn’t just be governments, it shouldn’t just be private companies, it should be anyone with the wherewithal to figure the technology out.
Is always going to take a massive amount of resources to get to space.
Resources = wealth
If your idea of 'democratized' is 'now giant megacorps have comparable capital and assets to entire nation states'...
You have a very, very silly understanding of democracy.
Please explain to me how a giant mega corp is... democratic in nature.
You are describing cyberpunk style, hypercorporate techno-feudalism as democracy.
Democracy is one person, one vote.
Corporate governance structures can basically be boiled down to: one dollar, one vote, ie, oligarchy.
Yeah. Most of humanity has been propagandised into believing that corporations, which are run like dictatorships where < 1% are the majority shareholders who control the operation, are actually equivalent to "freedom" and "democracy".
Clown world.
Great first step but the vast majority of the work still needs to be done. There's a big difference in getting 300m to the air and back and low earth orbit but Honda is an excellent candidate to get it done.
How is it a surprise? Honda has had this developing and has been building it for years.
Even if you didn't read the article, the op helpfully included the first few lines, which say that although Honda had said they were studying rocket technology, they made no announcements about this launch until it had already occurred.
Neat!
I've always appreciated Honda's approach to cars - priority used to be "make it work well" with style/features being secondary. (That's changed a bit in recent years).
Will be interesting to see how they approach a reusable rocket.
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