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[–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So have not one, not two, but THREE Chinese firms.

It turns out reusable rockets aren't something that requires serial explosions. It just requires good old-fashioned engineering.

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    [–] 91 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    "OK, so, I want a Honda Civic, but for up and down instead of forwards and backwards."

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Just wait until they add VTEC to it

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Now that's a diversification I didn't see coming. Not bad.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Ehh they have an engine market problem. I've seen analysis that Honda isn't a car company, they're an engine company - cars, generators, lawn mowers, pumps, a whole whack of industrial things. They really need to shift to electric motors but even then it's not a 1 for 1.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    About time. Took the market long enough. Bloody hell, it's like capitalism literally handed Musk this business on a golden platter.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    This must terrify Musk and his SpaceX

    It pleases me.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I doubt that. Spacex is miles ahead of the rest and they have bigger plans.

    Sure they would rather have a monopoly on cheap rockets for as long as possible but they have always known people would be trying to catch them up

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Yes, but Honda also builds nice things. They're not the neighbors you want moving in next door if your business is making reliable and precise things cheaply.

    Maybe it doesn't matter because SpaceX just lies on all their bids anyways

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I don’t believe they have even hit space yet, the test was only from 1000 ft.

    Still, cool as hell.

    Wait. This is just more commodification of space.

    Fuck that. And I will be against it until we figure out our fucking shit down here on the ground.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

    rivaling their ... 8 year old technology

    not a fan of musk but spacex seriously leapfrogged everyone in the 2010s

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Modern rockets have only been a thing for 70 years. 8 years is nothing. That would be like saying Rivian or Tesla can’t compete with Ford because they haven’t been making cars as long. Tesla didn’t have to spend a decade making the Model A or T before it figured out how to make cars effectively. Honda will also be able to spend less time making it to orbit than SpaceX did.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    only to seemingly all turn into a shit show.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He's a shit show, but SpaceX is still doing great. They have more launches per year than any other company or country. While they've had multiple launches explode recently, that's their newer larger rocket where they're still working out kinks.

    If they can't get that into shape eventually it could be a problem for the company, but their smaller rocket has a great record, reusable, a fraction of the cost of any other launch provider. Right now they're the only game in town for the U.S. getting to the ISS.

    I'd love to see Musk ousted, and more importantly to see real competition from other private launch providers. But don't let Musk hate color your view of reality.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Fair enough, though he builds all his personal image on completely associating his whole being with the companies he runs. Apparently he is even the chief engineer of spaceX probably because he wants to feel like Tony Stark. It is hard to trust a company where he names him self the chief engineer because that means he can enforce stupid decisions only because it sounds cool to him. Then once in a while he comes up with ridiculous stuff like donating his sperm for the mars mission or stuff like this:

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/

    https://aflcio.org/sites/default/files/2025-04/Memo%20on%20Elon%20Musk%20OSHA%20cases_.pdf

    https://tech.yahoo.com/science/articles/elon-musk-told-spacex-workers-181406484.html

    Otherwise kudos to all the great engineers who work there but I am not optimistic unless he lessens his influence there.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Altitude of 300m …. This is older than 8 years, this corresponds to the first SpaceX tests …. I don’t see that level of historical detail, but Wikipedia lists a milestone of a recovered falcon 9 after launch to orbit. Hondas technology is somewhere over 15 years old …. And the article doesn’t say whether it’s comparable size or power, so no.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Down voted because you didnt immediately talk shit about someone. We all hate musk but it doesnt mean we have to claim it for every post.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    from what I've heard musk and the HR head is basically destroying spacex from the inside?

    i dislike their upper management but i still appreciate what the people there do, and think what they're doing is incredible

    lemmy doesn't seem to like nuance unfortunately

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I like Honda, you can drive those cars into the ground, they just keep going.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Annnnnnnnnnnnd everyone else just been replaced.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    This is the best news I’ve heard all day. Go Honda! Fuck Musk!

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I love that space travel is becoming so democratized now.

    It shouldn’t just be governments, it shouldn’t just be private companies, it should be anyone with the wherewithal to figure the technology out.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is always going to take a massive amount of resources to get to space.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    If your idea of 'democratized' is 'now giant megacorps have comparable capital and assets to entire nation states'...

    You have a very, very silly understanding of democracy.

    Please explain to me how a giant mega corp is... democratic in nature.

    You are describing cyberpunk style, hypercorporate techno-feudalism as democracy.

    Democracy is one person, one vote.

    Corporate governance structures can basically be boiled down to: one dollar, one vote, ie, oligarchy.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah. Most of humanity has been propagandised into believing that corporations, which are run like dictatorships where < 1% are the majority shareholders who control the operation, are actually equivalent to "freedom" and "democracy".

    Clown world.

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    Honda is the complete opposite of Leon Hitler and his Space X BS.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Put some v-tec in it and it might actually works better.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Great first step but the vast majority of the work still needs to be done. There's a big difference in getting 300m to the air and back and low earth orbit but Honda is an excellent candidate to get it done.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How is it a surprise? Honda has had this developing and has been building it for years.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Even if you didn't read the article, the op helpfully included the first few lines, which say that although Honda had said they were studying rocket technology, they made no announcements about this launch until it had already occurred.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Neat!

    I've always appreciated Honda's approach to cars - priority used to be "make it work well" with style/features being secondary. (That's changed a bit in recent years).

    Will be interesting to see how they approach a reusable rocket.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    Looks like the ESA has another good option to use in the pipeline.

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