To me it looks like to position within each of quadrant want taken into account.

C was incredibly disruptive 50 years ago.

Tradition++

When your self driving car is written in react you'll understand.

8 frameworks and waiting for fingerprinting scripte to load just for the website to run at 1 frame every minute

It always disrupted everything, and is getting only better on that with time.

Disrupting my low ram usage

I mean from inception until now it has been a huge change in programming. Node changed a lot of things. Typescript changed a lot of things. React changed a lot of things.

A long way since GWT which google was doing because its java devs hated js

But the most disruptive technology of all is Steve Jobs's face.

I'm guessing they started with the portraits and then built out a kind of mood board around them. Javascript is not disruptive in any good way, but people who like Javascript (and Apple and so on) might think they are.

That’s Zen, a Firefox-based browser https://zen-browser.app/

Chrome was disruptive.

Part of the reason for its disruption is that Chromium is open source (BSD licence), built on Webkit that was open source, which was built on khtml from the KDE project which was open source. That is how we got to Microsoft Edge also running on Chromium.

If it wasn't for the monoculture aspect and the actions of some of the companies using it, khtml->Chromium would be a great open source success story.

Eh probably the LLMs should be taking up most of that corner.

A lot of the systems are quite stabilized. No need for a new OS, a new browser, a new language.

Even if the old stuff isn't perfectly optimal, having to setup a fully-new ecosystem is so incredibly costly that it's just not worth it.

That's why you see new developments (e.g. Typescript or Kotlin) piggyback on older ecosystems (e.g. JavaScript or Java compatibility).

Typescript could have been better if it was a completely fresh development without being encumbered by the madness that is JavaScript. But without JavaScript compatibility and thus acces to the JS ecosystem, nobody would have switched to TS.

All these systems heavily benefit from network effects, which makes it hard to impossible for completely new systems to emerge.

This is doubly strong for consumer-facing software. Linux only became a viable mainstream option due to Wine/Proton/... allowing users to easily run Windows programs. Without Windows compatibility, Linux would still be at <1% desktop market share.

It's also the same reason why everyone's making chromium-based browsers: Because that way they all work the same.

Disruptive change happens when you get a completely fresh use case. Microsoft completely destroyed the likes of Commodore and IBM when home computers became something that everyone had in their homes.

Smartphones becoming mainstream allowed Google and Apple, who were both completely new to the mobile OS business, to win against established mobile OS companies, because nothing was entrenched in the late 2000s mobile OS landscape.

OpenAI, Anthropic, Midjourney and so on are wiping the floor with established software powerhouses in the AI space.

But after the disruption follows stabilization. A product that has reached market saturation will only be replaced by incremental, compatible improvements.

*Sigh*. Fine, let's introduce a z-axis specifically for Terry A. Davis.

Dead center with God

Maximum freedom, and somehow joining the maximum points on the tradition and disruption axes, forcefully bending the chart into some sort of cylinder

It needs a Z axis for hobby vs enterprise.

Zig, a language for systems programming, alternative to rust.

Zig

It's Zig

Zig is actually pretty easy to get into. I got a Raylib game scaffold with scene switching running in a couple of hours from scratch, with no prior knowledge of the Zig language or ecosystem whatsoever.

Zoologist, it's a person that studies animals for a living. Hope this helps

It’s open source and traditional..

Vi is off the charts.

You would need entire new compass to place vi, vim, neovim, lazyvim, spacevim, lunarvim and so on on it.

There is Neovim but yeah, not the same thing.

I've noticed that, too.

NixOS answers that question I always had, "Do I have random residue from programs I uninstalled years ago lying around on my system?", with a resounding "No", and it feels amazing.

Author is either a troll or drank the apple marketing koolaid.

I think they just put them in quadrants with no attention to placement.

Nah, vibe coders are definitionally reliant on highy disruptive, literally economy destabilizing 'AIs', that are made by the most gigantic of megacorps and foundations.

That would make them so far into soydev they are off the chart to the bottom right, and it would also mean you'd be grilling Impossible Burgers.

One could argue that's heavily to the "disruptive" side, though.

Yeah well, it was convenient to dismiss radical free software ideas by telling everyone it's obsolete 🙄 thus calling that "traditional"

I was about to say C# seems to be in a weird spot here.

It's entirely FOSS. It does of course have corporate daddy providing dev resources for it but it definitely is not anywhere near the location for proprietary as Java.

It should be well and truly on the same side of this graph as Rust.

I'm also replacing Github but I'm waiting for Forgejo to implement federation

That's just the Emacs logo in the top-left. At least I assume Emacs has a terminal since there's that old "Vim proverb" about Emacs being a "great OS, it just lacks a good editor."

It makes sense once you accrue 1000 hours on /g/ (10 years ago, it's a much dumber place now)

I don't think Codium is on this image