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[+] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Americans are the only ones who regularly equate skin colour with ethnicity.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    People definitely made fun of Johnny Depp as a native American.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Made fun of, yes, but there was no outrage, calls for boycotts, etc.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    he's like 1/8 or 1/16 native, so despite being far removed from indigenous people and culture white americans have a tendency to see any claim to cultural heritage as valid, so the outrage wasn't as big as normal

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  • [–] 80 points 1 year ago* (23 children)

    Oh it’s even worse than that: they hate live action Ariel because she's “ugly”

    sex+race racism is horrifically nasty, yet more common and more “accepted” in my experience.


    Also, I will leave this here:

    Fortunately, it’s just hypothetical, that live action doesn’t actually exist…

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I'm sure I'm missing something super obvious, but can you explain the image?

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    The big panel is a bit clearer:

    Basically the original heroes were vaguely Tibetan (Aang) or dark-skinned Inuit, but for the movie (that doesn't exist) they quite consistently color coded the good guys as white and the bad guys as darker skinned; the total opposite.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I got that part. The part that was confusing me was Aang's "hero" font being a different color than the other two. I think I'm reading too much into it, maybe

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Though the director is South Asian himself, so I guess in a way he did that to increase representation, messed-up as that sounds.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You'll be surprised how many Indians hate other Indians. Not saying M Night does though. I mean just look at how many Indians are in the Trump admin. They get successful and then abandon their roots. Btw I'm Indian.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I don't think it's an Indian hating Indian thing. I think some (often better off) Indians and their families have a propensity to lick the boots of certain evil white people because its what worked out for them during the colonial era.

    There's always going to be people that side with the bad guys and in India's case, for the past few centuries, people that sided with the bad guys often attained wealth and luxury beyond what other Indians had. Even if those bad guys were committing a few genocides along the way.

    It sucks. Its a very "fuck you, got mine" attitude but I can't think anything more American / Western than that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    do you remember the original animated "Lion King"?

    all the voice actors for the Hyenas were black stereotypes...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’ll give you that for Shenzi (Whoopi Goldberg), but that’s a big stretch for Banzai (Cheech Marin) and Ed (Jim Cummings). I don’t think Marin can play anything other than a mexican stereotype, and Ed was just a moron.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm sorry but if you think that Zuko is not a hero, you must have sopped watching Avatar after the third episode.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think this is comparing it directly to the movie that doesn't exist where he's 100% not a hero

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Me looking at Idris Elba as Heimdall: damn good, give me more

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    It's old rage bait sir but it checks out

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If copyright didn't last forever, anyone could make a little mermaid movie with the main character as whatever race they prefer. Its been 35 years, time to release this into the public domain.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    The copyright does not apply to the Andersen original anymore. You just have to make your own twist on the story.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Marvel were big on Romani character = witch in the 70s and 80s.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    There were plenty of people mad about most of those.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    it's even worse than that cos the original text never said ariel's human version race, they just assumed it lol.

    and before anyone says yes but its written by a dane, my response is yes but it's a fairy tale, anything is possible. why assume and then get angry based on your assumption?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I don't know if anyone outside Australia knows Fern Gully... But anyway, years ago, watching that movie with friends I casually suggested that possibly fairies in Australia would more likely be indigenous looking than white, and got told off for "making everything political". And by migrant friends.

    One of whom used to get quite offended at any implication that they were anything other than Australian.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I seem to recall some anger about the Ancient One casting.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tilda Swinton has always, and will forever, exceed gender limitations.

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Casting a brown skinned woman as Snow White will never not be silly.

    It's similar to Jack Reacher, it's made very clear in the books he's a tall, physically intimidating person. And they cast Tom Cruise to play him.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Would be better if they actually made new movies with different cultures stories instead of just remaking the old shit too.

    They do this outrage bait on purpose though. American society is brain rotted and we need a cause to support or hate. Even in children's movies.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    who gives a piss, like genuinely

    beyond her name, is there any reason why snow white should be white?

    and, like, even then. "brown skinned". Zegler is super pale, you’re just mad she’s not a WASP

    anyways fuuuuuck disney for a bunch of reasons, but "casting POC for traditionally white roles" is not one of them.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Pretty sure the original text describes her skin as white as snow

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    In that case no human fits the description, not even albinos who are more pink than "white as snow".

    Well, apart maybe from black metal artists.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Grown men having strong opinions on how Disney Princesses should look will never not be silly.

    There's no reason for it to matter to them.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "Strong Opinions", or just find it ridiculous?

    I'm sure there's a few that were upset, but I think most people were just amused.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Can we please stop calling them "African American??" Nobody likes that. Not even black people like saying or being called "African American," for several reasons.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I am white but I sit on a board of directors for a majority-black arts org, the founder who is a black woman uses the term African-American.

    Not wanting to speak for anyone, but it's probably a mix of your age, social class, background, culture and context that may affect that choice.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    We do need some way to qualify them. They're not just regular Americans, like us, due to the excess of pigment. Perhaps, Black-American? Negro-American?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Black. They call themselves black. And everyone else is safe to call them black too.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yeah, i know - im joking. Separately - wtf do you mean "they"?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Because if I was black I would've said "we."

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Probably shouldn't be speaking for them then...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I do this thing called listening. I'm simply quoting what other black people have said.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    If they didn't have double standards then they wouldn't have them at all

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    How dare they cast the role of Caribbean princess as a young black girl? /s

    (I know the stories are Danish or something but Disney put these films in tropical island settings)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A certain group of people care a lot about this, the rest of the world isn't as insane, that's all.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I dislike it no matter the color for most things. There are plenty good actors that would match a characters ethnicity but they decide to go with the opposite of that. Now I’m all for representation and stuff, but when Hollywood does this it either feels forced or ignorant

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nah i'm upset at all of em, either cast the actual race of the character or you are too cheap to put in the effort.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    If the character's ethnicity isn't directly relevant to the story or its message, why does it matter? People of all kinds of heritage live just about anywhere in the world, so a character being from some country doesn't have to determine their ethnicity.

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  • It's a damn movie. Cast whoever is gonna play the character best. I don't care of brothers and sisters were different or if men played women or women player men.

    But I'm used to the theater were roles don't have such a large talent pool.

    More so, stop casting people just for their name.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Both whitewashing and turning a ginger character black are time honored traditions.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    turning a ginger character black

    iirc, a lot of the times in old media creators would use red-haired people as stand-in for minorities, basically if they wanted to make a character BIPOC, but the studio wouldn’t let them, they’d make them red-haired instead

    got this from hearsay so take it with a grain of salt. but if it’s true, it’s nice that the original visions can be fulfilled now!

    (and even if it’s not true, more BIPOC in movies is never a bad thing, even if it comes at the cost of red-haired characters, which whatever it’s not like we’re systematically oppressed)

    edit: also I’ll note that Ariel is still red-haired in the remake

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The one's labeled tibetan and romani, what are those? I'm familiar with the rest

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