What other time in history did people call other people rats and cockroaches?

I certainly see where you're coming from; there's a difference though.

Charlie Kirk was fighting to overturn the social contract; he didn't think the country has to accommodate LGB (and especially T) folks, atheists, Muslims, leftists, single women, et cetera. Hell, he loved political violence directed against Democrats.

People who break the social contract should not be surprised when they lose its protection.

Tolerance is not a paradox; it is a social construct. The difference between the assassination of the Minnesota state rep and the assassination of Charlie Kirk is that the Kirk was openly inciting violence against others. He rejected the social construct and was thus no longer protected by it.

I'll celebrate the death if anyone who's entire existence is to being more pain, cruelty, and hatred into this world. CEO of an evil corporation? Spokesperson for a nazi propaganda network? Corrupt politician that has repeatedly voted against protecting minorities, rent control, of universal healthcare? They have all spread violence and misery to hundreds of millions of people because they thought they were untouchable.

You know Charlie Kirk repeatedly said dead children were a small price to pay for the second amendment?

Do you weep for dead Nazis? I don't.

I’m of two minds about celebrating his death, in that I do, but I agree that people cheering vigilante killings is a sign of an unhealthy society. We definitely have an unhealthy society, and it seems like there’s not a functioning justice system for prosecuting people who foment hatred or commit societal murder, but this could lead to an American Reign of Terror, which would obviously be tragic.

That said, there’s a difference between being glad someone’s gone and declaring war on half of the political spectrum. I won’t say it definitely didn’t happen, but I didn’t see anyone suggesting that we take revenge for that senator, even on Lemmy. Certainly not in as widespread a manner as I’m now seeing it for Charlie Kirk.

Yeah, the problem I'm seeing now is that everyone on the right is seeing the left's reaction. And now they don't care if the shooter actually was someone from the left or not.

The response they see is all they need to justify any reaction. Of course they're conveniently forgetting their own response (and Charlie Kirk's response) to Pelosi's attacker.

I was reading the comments on here after Kirk was shot, and almost without exception, people here were cheering.

And I'd bet if you read the comments in some fringe, right-leaning boards, you'd have heard people cheering for the governor being killed, or Pelosi being attacked, etc.

What matters is the response of those in charge. People are asking leadership to take action. No one gives a shit about random internet posters.

As an example, Biden put out a statement condemning the assassination attempt against Trump. Trump is calling for retribution against the Left here.

In DC they just straight up fabricated some bullshit. People who think kirk getting a lead pill changes anything are delusional.

That's my point, he makes these flimsy reasons for invading but the big ones he just shrugs. Keeps making him look weak. Such a pusillanimous.

Mormons are still a religious minority and have long been a scapegoat in the US. Church of LDS has an eye watering amount of wealth that they aren't sharing with Uncle Sam or Trump.

If you’re R in a red state, “crime” doesn’t exist for you. It’s a thing brown people do.

Nooot really? I mean I'm not gonna lie I haven't really looked into the exact shooting here but 200 yards isn't really that crazy of a shot. If you assume the shooter was aiming for the neck it becomes a bit of a crazy shot, but I bet they were aiming for the head or body.

I'm sure many people who regularly go hunting could land a 200 yard shot. Heck I bet if you gave someone a few weeks of practice in a range they could consistently land 200 yard shots.

I say this from a place where I actually have fired guns before, including things like Ar-15s and an assortment of hunting rifles. They're just too easy to use.

Could have been former military? They used a single shot and then eloped with no trace. Very clean and professional.

200 yards is anything but masterful, with even a low-end scope its an easy shot if you've spent more than a day or two practicing at a range. The armys qualifying target is a human silhouette set at 300 yards and they are using open iron sights with no magnification or aid whatsoever.

I'm a hunter. I shoot my guns maybe 3-4 times a year (couple days at the range and a couple actually hunting). Like, less than 100 rounds/year between four guns. So I'm not a great marksman, and definitely not a "trained sniper".

This would be an easy shot for me. At 150 yards, I can shoot a 1/2" grouping, and I have a low-end rifle and scope. You don't have to account for bullet drop or wind at that distance. Just aim and shoot.

We don't even know that. Its completely possible kirk was cheating on his wife with the killer and things did not end amicably.

In most cases of murder the murderer is somebody the victim knew.

When this turns out to be a disgruntled MAGA nut, I hope they reflect fondly on " We are all domestic terrorists".

I love how some officials are already calling it a "political assassination" and everyone is talking about "political violence" when there's not even a suspect.

It's probably not a good idea to beat around the bush with this one. The mango in chief himself is saying this shit (TW: the link is truth dot social).

At about 3 minutes in:

"Radical-left violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives."

Followed by bullshit about how great of a person Charlie Kirk was, and then

"Charlie was the best of America and the monster who was attacking him was attacking our whole country"

I mean, it's pretty obviously political. We may not know the exact motives but the victim and timing make it clear that politics is involved in one way or another.

It's pretty clear it was a political hit. It's doubtful that his wife hired a hit man sniper to kill him because he was cheating or something.