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[–] 174 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This should be paired for contrast, as often as possible, with a collage of right-wing poster reactions mocking, minimizing or disputing the murder of Melissa Hortman and her husband.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Well interestingly I could not find Kirk saying anything about Melissa Hortmans killing. That day is chock full of huge boner post for Israel Iranian War. When another shooting happened a day later he said (excerpt):

    now today's diabolical attack in Minnesota, allegedly by Vance Luther Boelter.

    There are far too many mentally unstable and suggestible people on the left …

    With lots of decoration, projection and minimization around this tidbit. Full text

    Edit: I'm aware Boelter turned out to be more of a Christo-Fascist. That's why I found Kirk immediately blaming "the left" without knowing anything so weird.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    It was a really popular conservative conspiracy that Vance Boelter was a Democrat. Conservative talking heads know their base won't do any fact checking, so they made up a narrative and their audience ate it up. I bet many of them still believe Boelter was a Democrat, despite all evidence to the contrary

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They asked people to not protest over this, in order to keep them safe. The protesters didn't listen.

    By contrast, Ben Shapiro canceled his event TWO STATES Away in California because he was afraid of the event in Utah.

    These cowards are such trash. They talk this HUGE talk, then a warm breeze threatens to melt them. I can't believe their party originally coined the "snowflake" term that so perfectly describes them.

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  • [–] 122 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    All for a guy that's not even a politician .

    Nazi's murdered a dem senator and the no one really flipped hell kirk probably laughed. But now Nazi's want an excuse to shoot up and bomb cities ?

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I love the guy calling it the American Reichstag Fire. Oh boy, if only he knew German history.

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  • [+] 67 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Tell me again how many right wing nut jobs have been shooting up the US the last few decades.

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  • [+] 62 points 1 year ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Total silence regarding those two lawmakers though, weird.

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    [–] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    This may age like milk but, I look forward to the conversation in two weeks when these same voices age saying

    "we need to move on from the tragedy of the Charlie Kirk shooting"

    And

    "Charlie Kirk did not represent true conservative values"

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It is likely/possible the shooter was a groyper and a follower of Nick Fuentes. So a white supremacist who felt Kirk was insufficiently pro-white. They'd been stalking him for months over Kirk criticizing Trump once and also talking to a comedian who recently called for impeachment.

    So yeah, they'll bury this, or want to.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They'll frame a trans person. WSJ is already setting the groundwork

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    And remember when the violent left went and made all kind of unhinged tweets supporting political violence and retribution against conservatives all over America after Melissa Hortman and her husband in a act of politically motivated violence? When the same thing happened when Paul Pelosi was nearly killed and the violent left declared war and the extermination of Republicans?

    Yeah, not even pepperidge farms remembers that because the Right has nothing but projection.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fuck, it would be so pathetically hilarious for the second American civil war to start over Charlie fucking Kirk of all people. It'd be like if WW1 started because the pet fish of the wife of the cousin of the Archdike's brother was shot.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Amount of Russian assets, bots and useful idiots are going rampant. They want US to go to civil war.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Well, I kind of want it as well. Honestly, the political ideals are too divided. I dont want to live in the same country with MAGA. Divide the country up or get rid of one of the political ideals.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    the influencers are all russian shills to begin with, its was kinda obvious they were very quiet the past few months about epstein, the more they try to rail on it the more people want it released. i was on reddit prior tulsi being confirmed and the ban waves, and someone was "how she is a russian shill, i was like what planet are you on, shes been one since '16

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    [–] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    THEY ARE AT WAR WITH US

    rofl what the average radical leftist's "war" looks like

    I want your children to be happy, healthy, and have a future worth looking forward to

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I always laugh at "radical leftist". I want actual examples or policies. I can give radical right wing examples and policies all day.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Reminds me of soil. You need depth for your roots. People like you can be tall and strong but you still need a healthy substrate.

    Other people are like weeds and can thrive in nutrient starved dirt. And they make the soil worse so that good people are stressed and pressured into dying off.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What's the over/under on Utah police just grabbing some random homeless person and announcing they've caught the killer?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "charlie kirk being 'assassinated' is the American equivalent of reichstag fire"?

    "complete crackdown"?

    You know you're admitting to being a nazi, right?

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The fucking hypocrisy of calling it the reichtag (excuse my spelling) fire.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Yes, but I don't think it's unlikely that the current US regime will use this event in exactly the same way.

    I mean, with the Supreme Court ruling that the president is above the law and his rather far-reaching powers, the US supreme Nazi already has options that are somewhat similar to those of the "Enabling Act" following the Reichstag fire.

    Regardless of who ultimately shot the guy, the US regime will probably jump on this—if only because it serves as a bogus argument for further autocratic advances and also as another distraction from the Eppstein list.

    Besides, the US regime is certainly ruthless enough to do so.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They've been wanting a war ever since their great grandaddies got their asses handed to them by the union armies. If we give it to them this time, I propose we totally eradicate them rather than waste time on a second Reconstruction

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    [–] 63 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    They havent even caught the shooter... they dont even know they are a leftist.

    They could be, likely are, but it doesnt matter. If it turns out to have been someone on the right or someone from outside the US political spectrum it will be swept under the rug.

    The right are hijacking this to spread propaganda. Utter bollocks

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    WSJ published a story this morning reporting that “sources” claim they found a hunting rifle in the woods and unspent ammo that had “trans and antifa ideology” written on them.

    If that sounds ridiculous, that’s because it is.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    It's not even likely. I was born in 1980 there have been thousands of mass shootings since then in the US. Two of the shooters in the last 45 years had leftist tendencies. The vast majority of them were hard line right wingers.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I noticed on Reddit. Within a half hour boys and Fox News along with other right wing voices were already pushing a very extreme anti leftist propaganda across the board. Before he was even announced dead and obviously before anyone even knew who the shooter was.

    It was so wild to see it happen live as if it was an ad campaign that was planned for release.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    They are using it to advocate for significantly more violence. I don't really want to advocate for violence but what else can you do if people are trying to remove your rights?

    Oh yeah, blockades and general strikes would be a good one to try first. Fuck, even property damage is better than killing people.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    For whatever reason it's near impossible to act as a group in this country. The bigger the movement the bigger the target and oligarchy rallies and kills it in it's crib. The economic and propaganda stranglehold is too tight.

    And so individual acts that can be planned and executed under the oligarchy's radar (like what happened yesterday) are seemingly the only things left.

    That's why they are pushing the surveillance shit hard.

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    None of these people will "fight" anything. Elon Musk good lord give me a break. You can't even fight in a video game.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's what MAGAs do: they'll ask you to be extremely polite and civil, reproach your jokes and ask for human compassion while burning crosses at your door.

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    [–] 49 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    John Brown and Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong. Kirk’s shooter didn’t either. The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. While illegal, killing fascists and fascist sympathizers is morally just.

    Rot in piss, Charlie

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    These people are going through the stages of grief.

    First they were in denial he was shot, now they are angry, soon they will bargain for blood. Then one by one become depressed with acceptance.

    Such is life

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They need to just get over it. These kinds of things happen.

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  • I think the reason for the outrage is they are getting treated like progressives and can't handle it.

    The worst part is these right wing psychos won't see the violence is happening on both sides and instead blame "communists" or something like that

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  • [+] 19 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Wouldn't be surprised if Trump himself ordered a military sniper to do it as a distraction from Epstein and to stir up rhetoric about can't do elections anymore because of the political violence or soemthing.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel really bad for Charlie Kirk, he was about 2 years away from continuing to declare school shootings make us free while having a school aged child. That level of hypocrisy is what they live for, and he never got it ;_;

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They're calling shit pretty early, considering the guy who tried killing Trump was a right winger.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    This is what collapse of a society/civilization looks like. It's not one big event like the sacking of rome, it's the cultural norms eroded. Vigilante/militia actions becoming more and more common is a classic sign.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Ew, there's an Elon in the bottom-right corner trying to be relevant. He knows he was exiled from the Republican Party and lost most of his standing with the right for going against Trump, right?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Bruh, “Democrats”????? Like Nancy Pelosi out here doing direct action?

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Gonna be hilarious when they find out that the shooter was some red neck bigoted fucknut MAGAt loser...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's practically already written in truth. The perpetrator most likely was a MAGA asshat.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    If they a part of MAGA, why attack one of their own?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Because their personal experience with MAGA in power somehow failed to match their expectations, and they feel betrayed.

    Maybe they were just supremely in on the Epstein stuff and supposed allies backing down on their stance feels like a supreme corruption.

    Maybe they were unemployed and didn't magically get a job. Maybe they were employed but thought MAGA would mean a raise but he got laid off for whatever reason. Maybe they went to a fast food place and the order taker had a Mexican accent despite assumptions they would all be out of the country.

    Maybe they thought that the right wingers were right, but too passive and wanted to incite a hot civil war.

    Or maybe he went all in on it and his wife left him and he blames people like Charlie Kirk instead of himself.

    There's all sorts of ways it could be someone inclined to be MAGA. The conservative right played to a dangerous extremism and all sorts of things can go horribly wrong when you play with that sort of fire. Same goes for most any extremism.

    In general, any extremist movement can appear all on the same page until they get real power, then all hell can break loose as they discover they don't perfectly agree on everything, or circumstances don't fully match their expectations.

    Of course it could be a left wing person, or a foreign actor, or someone with a mental condition, we just have no inkling at all yet. It's just a possibility, and one that was represented in the two would-be Trump assassins.

    I personally think it's more likely to be someone who agrees with his rhetoric rather than is opposed. He was very odious, but not really wielding real power, so I think someone inclined to disagree with him is less likely to be moved that hard to action compared to someone that might feel somehow betrayed by him. But lots of room for mental health to really be the driver and then all bets are off on any ideology.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is Sean Davis (bottom left) confessing to Republicans stealing the 2024 election?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    That's a picture worth saving. For the inevitable post some Republican will make about how peaceful they are. And how 'mature' they act. Reply with this every single time, watch these people in the photo get disowned so fast by the people they associate with.

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