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[–] 186 points 1 year ago* (18 children)

Charlie Kirk. Kirk, 31, was the CEO...

He was only 31?

Geezus. Hate really does age you. I'm over 10 years his senior, and he looks 5 years older than me. And for once, this isn't a humble-brag.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Right?! Like my life has been sex drugs rock and roll but i have aged way less brutally.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I’m older than Laura loomer, and I’m a very pale smoker who doesn’t wear sunscreen. She looks at least a decade older than I do.

    Edit: I remembered her name!

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Same with Stephen Miller, he's my age and we do not look like the same generation of human

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller

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  • [–] 170 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Unfortunately, all of the competent people at the FBI left already.

    Also, don't forget that Trump very likely fucked a child and is covering it up. Release the Epstein tapes...

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  • [–] 160 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    K.

    In other news, Republicans blocked release of the Epstein files.

    Where's the Epstein files and why is trump and Republicans covering it up?

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  • [–] 108 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    They don't even know where the shot was fired from, apparently.

    It'd be amazing if they literally never figure this one out. There'll be conspiracy theories forever.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    I dunno, for all the alt-right frothing, Charlie Kirk doesn't seem like someone anyone will think about even a month from now, let alone set up a pin board for.

    He deserved what he got, but if I was making a list of worthy targets I'd probably forget to add him.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Legit forgot he existed till I woke up from my nap this afternoon and the internet was on fire about the shooting and shortly there after his declaration of death.

    Was a bit surprised a few discord servers I was on was trying to spin it like this was something the left always does and gets away with. When i asked for them to give a source to that they freaked out and tried to get a mod to ban me. Good times.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, there's a rotating cast of grifters that are making the world worse but aren't really individually important in the larger fascist project. And political shootings are almost entirely from the right. The last political shooting from the left I can think of is the congressional baseball shooting nearly a decade ago.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I got myself banned from a discord server for daring to refuse to express sympathy for his death and calling him a Neo-Nazi instead. One of the moderators is very conservative, unsurprisingly

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Charlie Kirk doesn’t seem like someone anyone will think about even a month from now, let alone set up a pin board for.

    He was a big mouthpiece for their propaganda. My coworkers yesterday were a surprising bunch, because apparently many of their families enjoyed listening to his "debates."

    Underestimating the influence of 'influencers' is part of what got us trump in the first place.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Honestly I didn't even know who he was, but clearly he was low hanging fruit with minimal security protection. The scariest thing about that video is thousands of young people at a "University" cheering on hate.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are you kidding? The right will make him a martyr.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    They made Babbit a matyr, and she rushed Capitol police during a violet mob attack on Congress, through a barricade, while cops shouted for her to stop. The cop that killed her fired a single, controlled shot. He was not firing wildly or with malice. She was ex military, and should have realized what guns drawn and warnings about deadly force meant. Bystanders next to her admitted to hearing the police warning her as she breached the barricades, but she did it anyway.

    Her mother just got a 5 million dollar settlement from the government and she got a full military burial with honors.

    They don't need an actual reason for a martyr. They will invent reasons after the fact regardless of what happens.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Trump admin won't let this go to waste. They'll find a suitable patsy, then justify taking guns away from everyone except card carrying nazis, I mean GOP members.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My local news reported that a black clad figure was seen running across a rooftop immediately following the shooting so they’re trying to ID who it was. It’s the same rooftop where there have already been reports the shot likely came from. I forget the name of the building though.

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  • [–] 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You mean the same FBI that just got purged of competence in exchange for loyalists? Oh my.

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Looking forward to a disproportionate amount of resources being dedicated to finding this guy's killer because he was popular.

    America is a joke and its working class is the punchline.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    I don't know if we can even argue that it's disproportionate. Anywhere you go on the web, this is all anyone is talking about. It's not media companies shoving the story down our throats - this is all the working class wants to be talking about right now. With this much public attention the response is going to be proportional to the amount of people who are paying attention to this topic.

    I get that this person isn't as important to care about compared to many many other people suffering and being killed around the world, but we can't deny that a huge huge number of people are interested in engaging with this topic and some of them even want the shooter to be found.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Meaning they don't think the person who shot him was black, trans or had mental health issues.

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  • [–] [S] 27 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Well according to the community forum for my crazy neighborhood it's definitely a minority trans person who did this.

    Also all mass shootings were done by trans people. Not even joking.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Trans people are like sub 1% of the us population. These guys are busy.

    I really don't understand how you can actually believe something like that. Because of my wild 20's i happen to know a lot of trans or gay or LGBTQ people in general, or more than the average person. If they were that violent, i would know so many murderers. In reality they are just the nicest people imaginable. I get that they obviously don't know trans people, probably have never seen one, or if they did, they didn't even know. But even that fact should make you wonder, no? I was at work and some random guy complained about how many jews live here and why that's a problem, and i just thought that i don't even know any jew. I worked for one once, and every now and then i see three or four walking around, but only recognise them because they are orthodox and dress like amish people. I actually had to look it up and in and around the next city, there are only 2000 jews, like what are you on about?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    WSJ is claiming that the rounds recovered from the weapon used had pro trans / "antifascist" things engraved on the bullets - make of that what you will. Generally WSJ's reporting is factually accurate but incredibly biased, so there's that? Fuckin' hell though this is already such a fucking clusterfuck.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    “Sources say” makes this highly dubious.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    That's completely standard in journalism - and the WSJ, despite being an aggressively horrible publication politically and morally, is quite respected for the strict veracity of it's reporting. I don't doubt they were told that, by a reputable source. I have no idea if it's true beyond that however, since the trump admin isn't exactly overflowing with decent quality human beings.

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    Like I said, truly awful morally. Not about to argue against that. But your link doesn't speak to their adherence to reporting strictly true (if heavily manipulated as to the apparent context and implications) information, which is all I've claimed. They fuckin' suck, but they know that, and they delight in being able to pull a charlie kirk smug face and pull out the recipts when challenged on it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If that's actually the case

    then I think it's just as likely

    that this was done by fascists

    to justify a "war" against "leftists".

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I can't say I would be surprised for that to be the case.

    I think it's far more likely for it to have been one decent person who couldn't take the constant hatred spewed by Kirk. Everyone knows this has been brewing, for it to finally pop on Mr 'Puts His Punchable Face Right Out There And Taunts You For Not Hitting Him" himself isn't much of a surprise.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Just look for a guy with a high powered rifle in Utah...

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Probably fled the state by now. You'll have to expand the search to guys with high powered rifles in the greater western US.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why limit it to the US?
    Could've been related to Venezuelan drug lords.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Well by now yes they could be anywhere in the world. I was speaking at time of post with my understanding of the original timeline, faulty as it may have been 2min after waking up lol. They might be at mcmurdo for all we know now

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    Probably a bad idea that you purged everyone in law enforcement who was good at their job but not a chud.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They'll probably pin this one on that poor, innocent, Mangione guy too!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    My thoughts exactly.

    And just like in the case Luigi became popular for, the overwhelming reaction to this kind of self-defense could've been foreseen.

    You don't win against bullies by adhering to the social contract; they break the social contract, you need to do the same.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    They're looking for a white male ages 14 to 79 in Utah. So. Basically looking for a needle in a stack of several million needles.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    This is where that super invasive dystopian surveillance tech could really come in handy.

    In Xinjiang, administrators logged people as high, medium, or low risk, often according to 100-point scores with deductions for factors like growing a beard, being 15 to 55 years old, or just being Uyghur.

    Help us narrow it down from a needle in a haystack to a needle in a haystack with a predictive score based on institutional bias. Book 'em Danno!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Telecom black rooms, Flock mass AI surveillance, NSA secret catalogue of zero days... we control the internet backbone and a lot of traffic flows through our country just because it's cheaper to route that way.

    That's why we have fusion centers right? You can't use your fancy spy tech without people parallel constructing a plausible scenario for how someone was really caught.

    Maybe they know where the shooter is right now and they're just waiting for people to finish the story. Social media post, a call to an old friend, have a tip placed anonymously, suddenly they find him at McDonald's.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    They might find the shooter analyzing footage of the area but if the camera setup had anywhere near as many holes as any other college I've been to their chances are low, basically hoping social media got the shooter in the background.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    That's not the most dystopian surveillance tech around. It gets both more intrusive and more effective...

    Think constant drone surveillance over a whole region. High res cameras, massive storage and long loiter times with glider like drones. You can just keep recording, and then when something like this happens, you just play the video back for the whole last day, following your suspect backward in time to when they left their home in the morning. The system isn't even all that expensive to operate.

    Say goodbye to privacy.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Thoughts and prayers.....for the shooter. God speed American patriot.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    May he never be found and retires down in a nice shack in the woods.

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