I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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[–] 37 points 1 year ago*

Fallout 4. game was pretty decent but the pacing was weird. by pacing I mean the game seemed like it was set out in a way that you wouldn't complete the game until you were many levels up from what I was, so many upgrades that took a lot of caps left unlockable, and by the time I felt I was really starting to get somewhere, the game ended with the Institute ending

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Watch Dogs 1. It was quite fun for me, but quite a lot of people expected it to create a spark like GTA 5 back in the day, so when it didn't; they all criticized it to hell.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Path of Exile

    Good fun game, but online communities are committing to min/max the fun out out of it. I like blowing up monsters, I don't care about optimising my chaos-per-hour rate.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yeah it bothers me when the community for a game is like "{skill} is TRASH never use it" and when you do some digging you find it's like 2% less damage per second. Or it doesn't work well in NG+7. Some people are really obsessive about this stuff.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately the game is specifically designed to waste your time if you want to see everything it has to offer. So it's not really the communities fault for pushing to maximize that time spent. Just a consequence of a deliberately slowed down system

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    But the point isn't to see everything. The feeling of FOMO is what's seems to drive people to madness. For a game that's been developed for over a decade with multiple cycles of content release every year; I'm not surprised that people don't get a chance to see everything. I see that as a positive and not a negative.

    Other games do similar things. I play a lot of Dead Cells and can't get beyond 4BC. Most people will never get to end game content to see all bosses or unlock all items. Who cares. As long as the game is fun.

    My first play through of PoE was with no guides. I made it up as I went along. Had a terrible "build". I enjoyed taking weeks to get through the campaign slowly and reading all the lore. Every league I played, I got deeper and deeper into the content....learning to make tons of currency, getting a character to lvl 100, etc. It has been great playing it off and on. The game is fun without experiencing "everything". But if I ever engaged with the online community, all I would hear is "I've played 3000 hours and this game is shit".

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Red Steel, actually. I'll admit to having fun memories of it from when the Wii launched.

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    Mass Effect: Andromeda - I knew 1 & 2 were held in high regard, but I hadn't played them. Actually, I'd played about 10 minutes of one of them a couple years before and it just wasn't what I was in the mood for at that time. So, I went into Andromeda without any expectations really and thought it was a perfectly fine game.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Just finishing about a new playthrough of Andromeda and I think it's larger problem is that the good content doesn't open up until a third of the way through the game. For the first third, you have very little to do except follow the Kett and the Angara storyline, and those are the absolute worst parts of the game.

    It doesn't actually get good until it opens up and you're dealing with Outlaws, Collective, internal politics of the Nexus, the Krogan rebellion, etc... and your (admittedly pretty lame) companion quests. But at least it's something more than just two new species that aren't nearly as fleshed out or complete as what already existed.

    By the time the game opens up and you can do more than just the main quest, you're already friggin bored.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    COD Ghost. I loved the singleplayer storyline. Everyone hated the game for the storyline.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is that the Call Of Doggy one? To be honest I've only actually finished COD4.

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    That game looked fine to me tbh. I think it might have been the point that their yearly release schedule had begun to saturate the brand as opposed to the games getting worse.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I remember some people in Reddit not being too happy with It Takes Two.

    We loved it and look forward to playing Split Fiction when we find the time.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    People don't like it takes two? Was the book too over the top or what?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    IIRC it was a minority, but the critique was gender stereotypes and misogyny.

    They are entitled to their opinions, and I'm glad I read it after playing the game so it did not affect my experience.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    for me I just... couldn't stand either of the main characters and thought the reviving-their-dead-marriage arc was really trite. I didn't believe these were people that "should" be together and around the time they dismembered that elephant (!!??) I was fully checked out.

    The game was wonderful when we were actually playing, probably the most fun I've had in a coop puzzle game since Portal 2. I really wouldn't need much in the way of story to convince me to keep playing, but there were so many goddamn cutscenes! I'm glad others enjoyed it more than me, and did enjoy a lot of the gameplay, but the characters really soured me on the game eventually.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I played it with a friend and never finished it. I like the idea behind the game a lot, but for me the game was just too easy. There wasn't a real challenge at all. So i played it for the story. But the characters weren't really likable either and the guy was pretty annoying. Then there was the part with her favourite plush toy. And i thought they try to get rid of it and then learn something. Nope, they just destroy that thing.

    I think it's a good game, but i would never finish or play it again. And from what i've seen, i think the same thing about split fiction

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Interestingly, the two example you shared (Sonic Unleashed and the whole Sonic franchise being bad) are likely a good example of "hanging with the bad crowd". Unleashed is… not great, in my opinion, but the whole franchise? Please. We're not talking Sonic06 level of horrible decisions.

    Another view on this is, if you enjoy something, and people have to tell you it's bad just so you know, it can't be that bad. People enjoy different things, and seriously, the toxicity of large communities is the worst thing ever. At this point, even with what seems to be "unanimously loved", you'll be able to find a large enough group of people happy to tell you it's shit.

    With that said, some games are really, really bad. But these games usually don't need to be pointed out for people to know.

    edit: dang, that was full of typo.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Jumping on your last point, I was in a local Game store and a woman who clearly knew nothing about games was birthday shopping for her son, she asked the owner what if he thought Superman 64 would be a good gift.

    To the man's credit, in complete deadpan, he said "that game is absolutely terrible, it's the worst game on the system"

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  • Sonic Adventure 2

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    None. I couldn't care less about people hating the games I enjoy.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Killzone. I really, really loved the story and level design, but everything was shit. Someone pointed it out to me and I suddenly seen everything wrong with the game hahha.

    There was this one glitch where the first shot from the Helghast rifle was 100% accurate which I used and abused to absolutely destroy people in multiplayer games.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's a lower budget game by Spiders called Technomancer that came out in 2016. It came up in my XBox game pass, so I played it before I read any reviews on it, and I honestly enjoyed the hell out of it.

    I didn't find the combat stilted. It felt quite fun to work between three different fighting styles. The storyline was interesting and (to me anyway) original. And the Universe was pretty fun to play around in.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The original iteration of no mans sky. Absolutely lied a shit ton about what was in the game but I really enjoyed my initial time with it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Dark Souls 2 was the first and only Soulslike game I played... Was a great experience and a good time killer during my summer break (when I still had one). Only later did I learn how poorly ppl thought of the game

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    RuneScape 😅

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The first Deus Ex game I played was Deus Ex: Invisible War on the original Xbox, which I loved. It's the first foray into cyberpunk for me and sparked a love of it I've had since. It was not well received, and considered a dumbed down version of the original game.

    Still love it. The Arcology in Cairo was my favorite part.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Industria, I really really love it but it turns out it's not particularly well reviewed. I've always wanted a game that felt like Simon Stålenhag's paintings and that game is actually specifically inspired by his work.

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    The Sniper Elite series, and to a lesser extent the Sniper Ghost Warrior series. Also, the True Crime series. I think all of those games are a ton of fun, I enjoyed playing them all and still do sometimes but they had very mixed reviews.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II. Bought of for 9€ and had a lot of fun with it. Sure, the story was not as good as the first one and it's a lot shorter, but the new gameplay was great and it has a much better final boss than the first game.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I was just really really disappointed with the controls on the Wii. The first one was so intuitive and they just went and changed it for no reason.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have to admit, I never tried the Wii version of either game. Only PC and Xbox.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I tried the PC version the other day for the first time, to finally see what the real game looks like. Might be nostalgia, but I thought the Wii version is actually better. I should install a Wii emulator to properly compare them.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Battlefield 1, I liked its slower-paced combat and need for teamwork for things like ships and the heavy bomber (original, not the super heavy).

    It was different than almost all contemporary shooters, and I really found that refreshing. It also had a strong art design and really looked the part for WW1, even if some of the weapons were prototypes or team weapons (which should have been cut, imo) or vehicles were tweaked for gameplay (understandable, the German tanks were extremely tippy, and the French tanks were slower IRL)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That reminded me that Sonic Unleashed was the only game I ever got refunded.

    I bought the game to play with my kids, expecting a colorful and fun Sonic game. I quickly realized it was quite different, much more violent than I expected. So I traded it for Sonic Colors, which was a bit more kid friendly.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    call of duty world war 2. my favorite one (mostly cause its the only one im actually good at haha) but a lot of people hated it

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  • @NONE_dc I'll say Binary Domain, Whether because it came out at the apex of the cover based shooter or whatever other reason it got lukewarm reviews, but the gameplay is actually pretty fun, and the story, while not the most original one, it did have some interesting elements to it

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    I enjoyed it for a while, but the whole ng+, while pretty cool, really killed it for me. My first playthrough I made bases, upgraded weapons, etc. Then I learned about all the cool perks you got from ng+ and did that. The problem is you lose all your bases and material farms. So you're in this weird spot of having to bum rush all 10 universes to get the maximum benefit before actually setting up any significant settlements. I burned out quick. Also a bunch of the powers are underwhelming, and space travel is DOGSHIT. NMS, elite dangerous, hell even star citizen are space games. Starfield is NOT.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Overall, I enjoyed my experience with Starfield. I just wish I didn't spend half of my time trying to build the optimal bases for trading hubs. Apart from that, everything was good

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I can understand someone complaining that it wasn't Fallout 5, but I definitely think it deserved a higher Steam rating.

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  • To be honest, I think it had a decent chance to be Fallout 5, but in space. Maybe if they doubled the number of companions (read: not followers) and put all the new ones in different factions. I honestly expected the lady who pulls you into the gang in the ocean city would be a follower with how fleshed out she was

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I felt that Starfield was good with the potential to be great (with enough added content, which they haven't done yet, but here's hoping).

    The Outer Worlds, on the other hand, feels like it pretty much reached its limit. It's a better game vanilla, since it has more content and far less empty space, but I don't think that there's any more they could really have done with it. Not quite great, but definitely worth playing.

    And the "Fallout in space" line references the overall vibe of TOW, with '50s-'60s style culture and advertising. Starfield has Fallout's mechanics, but it's more of a Star Trek or Firefly aesthetic, depending on where you are.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I really like it until I started having problems with what I think must have been save bloating, making it more and more difficult to save. Which in turn made me quite until a possible fix as I didn't want to risk the save becoming unplayable.

    Then I played other things and sort of forgot to check if it was fixed, but I still really liked the game.

    I tried The Outer Worlds but couldn't stand it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Oooo now you have me interested in Starfield by comparing it to Wing Commander, damn you.

    I loved Outer Worlds. Rough around the edges, sure, but it wasn't much different than playing Fallout 3 in terms of gameplay. Also the setting made for some great satire. My only real complaint was the small maps. High hopes for the sequel.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Mass Effect Andromeda. I plaid it well after launch after the initial "problems" were fixed, and I think it's a good game. I just wish we'd get a sequel.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Drakensang 1

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  • On the topic of Sonic Unleashed, I played it as a kid on the Wii and actively disliked it because it just seemed sad and freaky to see Sonic effectively become mutated.

    To give some idea, back then I had no internet so whatever games we had, I always gave a good go and I'd always play even the most mediocre of games.

    We also had Sonic Colors and that game just felt the total opposite: very positive, lots of eye candy, arcadey, very much enjoyed it as a kid.

    Some 20 years later and I'm speaking to a Sonic fan and they bring up how they've played every single game including Unleashed, and it was the only one they hated, which made me realise I'm not the only one.


    To answer your question, I'd say Shrek for the Xbox - I did enjoy Shrek 2 more than the original game as a kid, but I also didn't mind the original either.

    Once I had internet, I saw plenty of references to the original game as the butt of jokes and an example of what games should not be, and honestly those criticisms were valid.

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