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[–] 118 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not surprising at all, there's been so many cop brutality incidents over the years. Off the top of my head, a cop broke the arm of an elderly woman with dementia and the cops laughed and joked about it. There was another case where the cops make a man crawl on floor before executing him. People don't just become monsters overnight. They've been trained over the years to behave this way.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Bodycams are making a lot more of these available now too. Saw a brutal one where cops paralyze a handcuffed guy by breaking his neck, then they sit prop him up in a sitting position and complain that hes uncooperative because won't move.

    That was a year ago, the dude is dead and the cops got off scott free.

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    [–] 72 points 1 year ago

    Those Nazis are attempting murder.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Who would have thought the LAPD would commit such blatant police brutality? Oh wait, everyone.

    If you ever wonder why police budgets are so over-inflated, it's because an absurd number of their unqualified thugs get sued for shot like this, and they have to pay out huge amounts of compensation. You'd think they'd learn, but they won't as long as they keep getting basically unlimited budgets and no real consequences.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I made an argument with one of my co-workers that I think that police unions should have to pay all legal bills and payouts for cops getting sued for violating rights. He responded "That's a quick way to get rid of all police unions," I had to stop and think if that would be a problem or not.

    My point was the police unions are the only ones that can hold their members accountable. If they forced their members to act better instead of being thugs then things might change. If Police unions don't hold themselves accountable then no one will.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Under Capitalism, the police can only ever be the millitant arm of the bourgeoisie directed against the proletariat. ACAB has value as a phrase because the police only serve Capital. As long as Capital is dominant over humanity, rather than the inverse, police will be used primarily against the working class.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago

    Bunch of fucking nazis.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    looking at how even the horses are disobeying being forced to harm people - we can conclude that calling cops animals is not appropriate - ghouls and psychopaths seems more adequate but don't let me stop you from listing all other fitting names you can think of:

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    [–] 98 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    The police representative blandly spouting copaganda and saying how much the LAPD cares about safeguarding lives, while a protestor is currently getting hit with batons and run over by horses, is the most US thing I've ever seen.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Notice the first horse refused on the left.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    The only good cops are horses and dog.

    EDIT: Guys, I know police dogs attack people. They are trained to do so from birth. I don't blame the dogs.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Idk. Police dogs are brutal. They're regularly sicced onto black and Latino people to maul em and if they try to defend themselves they're charged with assaulting an officer.

    Dogs should at most be used to smell for bombs. The fact that they trust their owners so much that they'd be violent against whomever is precisely why the cops shouldn't be allowed to have them, it's animal abuse but even more importantly, it's a huge vector for police brutality.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Watched this live all day at work. So much of this shit went on. The whole thing with CHP trapped under the overpasses was set up to be a massacre, but the protestors didn't kill them.

    No commander in his right mind would trap their troops on low ground like that unless it was a sacrifice.

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  • They’re hoping for bloodshed on the side of police or military, it’s their ticket to ride. They can do whatever they want once they establish the civilian populace as a threat to military personnel. These guys are little more than sacrificial pawns as far as the administration is concerned, they’re hoping that at least one of them meets a violent enough end so they can justify martial law and start unloading on every crowd of protesters.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago
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    The Police DO love a little Fascism.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    How can we as a society tolerate this?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Because the bulk of society in the US, the working class, has no say in the matter.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Bullshit. The working class is your only hope of fixing this and they're doing fuck all.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Currently, the working class of LA is protesting. There's a chance it spreads now, too, which would be great, but hopefully this also leads to organizing.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Defund the entire department until they bring forward the cops who did this

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I made a clip of this in better quality from the actual video

    https://streamable.com/bc1sog

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    When criminals wear badges.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    As someone raised in LA I think this is the first time I've actually seen police on horses. Where in the protests did that particular one happen?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    The police badge is the most common gang sign that I regularly see.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Arent you guys supposed to have weapons in case a tyranical government or something like that?

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The arming was (and remains) mainly about keeping the US settler garrison empowered to carry out indigenous eviction, and keeping non-white populations under control. Not protecting from a tyrannical government.

    You can see that when those groups did try to arm themselves, such as the Black panthers or the American Indian Movement, laws were passed and repression carried out to disarm them.

    Highly recommend reading Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz - Loaded, the disarming history of the second amendment for more on this. You can find the audiobook on torrents.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for the reading recomendation, will look into it. Yeah, times of crisis are really fast destroyers of lies, such as that the ruling classes would allow the ruled to arm against them. If the propaganda meltdown was in turbo mode after israel started the genocide, a civil conflict inside the us will give it a spaceship engine

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Can you legally shoot a cop if they were shooting at you for no reason?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    You wouldn't be alive to defend yourself in court. But not only that, US cops are extremely protected legally. If you put a hand on them that's assaulting an officer and you'll get prison time.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Those aren’t cops, those are murders.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    You got to be fucking kidding me

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Fake democracy

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Fuck USA! USA!USA!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (-1 children)

    Why the fuck do the police still use horses?

    Are there still bandits in the wild west robbing steam trains?

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    They have to be killed. One day you'll learn.

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  • [+] 11 points 1 year ago (22 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    ??? No different than Russia? HAVE YOU READ THE HISTORY OF THE U.S.? THERE ISN'T EVEN A SIDE OF COMPARISON RUSSIA LOOKS LIKE THE LAND OF PEACE COMPARED TO THE U.S.

    I suggest you read "Endless Holocausts: Mass Death in the History of the United States Empire"

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

    average .world user, how is the Russian civil war worse than anything the U.S. did?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    [Video] LA cops force their horses to run over protester

    If anything, it's US cops learning from the cossacks, whom tsar always send against people when police was not enough. Running over unarmed people with horses was their favourite tactics.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well you see they shot some monarchists and that's equivalent to murdering tens of millions of brown people somehow.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Buddy I'm already on team "Fuck the Tsar"

    A bloody Civil War to end monarchism is not equivalent to what the US gets up to on a regular basis for the sake of making capitalists richer.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is your point that the people fighting against Tsarism shouldn't have done so? That they should've continued to suffer without complaint?

    Of course the monarchists and reactionaries are going to accuse their opponents of their own crimes, nothing surprising there.

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    I don't think that's being disputed. Both the USA and Russia had incredibly violent labor histories in the late 1800s and 1900s. The main difference is that in Russia, the workers+peasants organized and won, and in the US, they lost.

    Either way this both-sidesing of violence makes no sense. You might as well demonize every just cause in history, or every person that defends themselves from an aggressor with that outlook.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Using whole Wikipedia pages as citations is terminally lib brained. At least cite the specific wikipedia sources jfc.

    Citing "pogrom" wikipedia like you're trying to prove the concept of it exists is just the dingleberry on top of this shit cake.

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  • [+] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    “Pogrom” was coined in Russia and became well known largely because of the Russian Civil War.

    Weird I distinctly remember reading about pogromists being one consideration for the bolsheviks in how to participate in the 2nd Duma and that was before the Civil War.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Asking citations is how we get everyone to tell the people who know what they're talking about vs the ignorant libs who have "'common knowledge" and fuck all else. Lazy and obnoxious is the name for the lib playbook, talking about shit they half remember from propaganda fiction they pretend is the same as history.

    Also, I'm not the one making claims. When I start pulling numbers out my ass you're more than welcome to put very little effort into asking for the source. It'll take only slightly more effort from myself since I do keep some handy before I post.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Imagine thinking you can explain the Russian civil war to a communist with your wikipedia linking ass. Go read an actual book sometime.

    Learning the term Sealioning doesn't absolve you from sourcing your claims, maybe find the time in your busy schedule learning a single concept correctly instead of having confidence that you got the gist of it from the vibes and a twenty second skim of whatever google spit back at you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is not comparable to the U.S. still

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Oh fuck right off with that bullshit.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    That's true, the USA is even more disruptive currently.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    In the mind of the USAian liberal, this is also because of Russia. Things used to be great, but now they're bad because the foreigners are controlling the president.

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  • In the minds of anyone with a passing understanding of Russian foreign policy can absolutely see they have their hooks in Trump and you would have to have a significant deficit in logical thinking skills to believe otherwise. That being said that only accounts for some of the war, violence, and agitation the USA is involved in.

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