Isn't boarding and taking over a ship in international waters piracy?
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Thiago Ávila, a Brazilian activist, was also in that boat and was kidnapped by the Israeli state. That's a crime against humanity.
they have been murdering activists, journalists, doctors, kids, women, pregnant women for decades. israel was founded by slaughtering entire villages and raping little girls to death.
you thinks these vicious scum care an iota about humanity ?
Why is everyone so hands off and permissive with Israel? Like they can do nothing wrong when they go out of their way to do wrong things?
Israel has a huge lobby in most Western countries. And Epstein material on their politicians.
manufactured consent and capitalist profit. it’s a cult.
We just need to help god make the book of revelations happen so Jesus can come back!
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Because if you criticise you're called "Anti Semitic"
Western countries never face any consequences for their atrocities.
Do you mean governments or people?
People don't have much power here. Other than boycotts, what can people do?
For governments, Israel is fairly powerful. They have powerful lobbyists, and aren't shy to leverage claims of antisemitism against anybody who speaks up against Israel. In many cases, there's also the guilt over how jews were treated in WWII. This is one reason Germany is so incredibly pro-Israel. Then there's the fact that Israel is still more-or-less a democracy, which makes it unique in the middle east. It's the one country in the region pushing back against various Islamic fundamentalist goverments, movements and terrorist groups. Many countries don't want to lose that "friend".
And then there's spyware. Most of the best spyware in the world is produced in Israel. Some cynical people would say that countries don't want to lose access to the world's best producer of spyware. Some even more cynical people would say that that spyware has already been used on politicians and Israel is using it for blackmail. Who knows what the right level of cynicism is.
there's also the guilt over how jews were treated in WWII.
How many are still alive? That excuse has long expired.
the region pushing back against various Islamic fundamentalist goverments
You can thank the CIA for that.
How many are still alive? That excuse has long expired.
It's not individual guilt, it's institutional guilt. In many other cases that's a good thing. We want German kids to grow up learning about the holocaust and thinking "we can't allow that to ever happen again". I don't think what's happening in Gaza could happen in Germany because of what Germans are taught growing up.
OTOH, in Israel they seem to only be taught that jews are victims and can never be perpetrators.
You can thank the CIA for that.
Yeah, they were involved. They were saving the world from the dangers of communism. Looking back, all the west really had to do was sit back and wait for the communist system to collapse. But, I wonder what the middle east would look like without the CIA's interference. It sure seems unlikely it would be a land of healthy, stable democracies. Look at all the places where the CIA didn't interfere. Countries ruled by strongmen is the rule rather than the exception.
But, however we got here, that has been Israel's traditional role. It was a democratic country with somewhat similar values to the west, nestled among Islamic Arab countries with very different values.
Don't forget that Epstein was linked to Israel Military intelligence, so there is that...
This is a complete inversion of the relationship and a very loud antisemitic dog whistle
While their statement is a hyperbolic and reductive statement about only the other side of the symbiotic relationship, we must also not strip Israel of its agency. Also, Israel≠Jews, as much as Israel tries to convince you they are the same.
In the macro scale. Yes, Israel is propped up by the west as a powerful tool against other regional powers and the imperial system funnels funds into their upkeep.
But it's also true that in the micro scale. Politicians are more directly and personally rewarded to keep those funds flowing (AIPAC exists regardless of tropes) and Israel uses the leverage they have as one of the more valuable strategic tools to grant them leeway others wouldn't have.
It's a two way street. Israel and The US/west aren't parasites leeching off one or the other, they're symbiotic.
All they had to do was wait until the boat entered Israeli waters to do it legally. Why do it in international waters? Israelis seem to want to break laws just for the sake of showing they dont consider any laws to matter. In some ways they are worse than nazis. They are like perpetually angry butthurt toddlers with weapons.
They want to make a point that they don't care about international law
And that they will most likely suffer no consequences from it
Was gonna say, they’ve not been given any reason to care about international law.
Although, I swear I saw that the ICC put out a warrant for Bibi.
You may be right. The whole world is on the brink ,deciding if we will move forward as a global "rule of law" or a global "might makes right" future.
At no point would the boat enter Israeli waters. Only Palestinian waters.
The illegal Israeli sea blockade is illegal for reason: it is not their water.
this country is run and heavily populated with most vile criminals ever to exist
when contemplating about what they are capable of, then think of them as the most disgusting mexican drug cartel not a country of law and human decency.
there's no "legally" what, they enter Gaza territoral waters, only gaza has authority to regulate it's territorial waters.
Israel has no right to control Gaza's waters.
#BringThemHome
Good thing Sweden isn't Israel or else they'd have bombed their hospitals already.
I don't think kidnapped should be in " ", it's an entirely literal act of piracy and terrorism
"The tiny amount of aid that was on the yacht and not consumed by the 'celebrities' will be transferred to Gaza through real humanitarian channels," the ministry added.
They will toss the aid to the wood chipper and laugh about it, won't they...
Quite a thing to create the world's most dire need for humanitarian aid in the history of the species and then criticize any aid as tiny in comparison to the need you've manufactured
Nah, they will give it to their ISIS aligned collaborators and then shoot anyone/bomb anyone else who goes near it.
They will then destroy Hamas. Once Hamas is destroyed, they will demand that the new group be destroyed before the war can end. They will then fund a third group to distribute aid.
Nah they'll actually dangle the food in front of starving people to draw a crowd and then bomb them.
Fucking monsters.
Israel has a reputation for not even following through on these basic minute propaganda gestures. Because they are comically evil.
remember that time where they piled a bunch of boxes with a printout that said medical aid, then have soldiers move them into an hospital they evacuated, showing how weightless they are. and how useful will those empty boxes will be in the hospital they vacated
Real humanitarians who will deliver the aid via sniper bullets to the forehead.
tiny amount of aid
This is like someone with a micropenis criticizing the genitals of a kitten.
Yeap, she knew exactly what danger she was going into, and did it anyway. That is bravery.
There was the chance they'd just get shot down.
I guess israel still gives some credit to international opinion and deemed the rich white brat a relevant human better kept alive.
Israel has decided to grab the attention of some of the people who weren't already outraged. It's a bold more. I hope it works out the way I think it will.
How do you think it will? Honest question
Of course idf kidnaps a kid
I just want to point out that Greta Thunberg is 22 years old. She's been an adult for 4 years now
She's 22.
Do you have the same concern for the thousands of children being held indefinitely in prisons by Israel? Why don't those hostages deserve release?
Like Israel did to Palestine in 1948?
She was no dummy. But was always going to die this way.
(I only assume she is dead.)
I can understand where the fear that she'll be killed comes from, but I really don't think that's what will happen. She's too high profile, and her and the others know it. That's what's part of what makes this such a bold move. They were basically daring Israel to do something about it. There is a legitimate chance of harm coming to them, but I really expect they'll just be released in a few days.
Yeah I admire Greta, but anyone who's been paying attention had to know this would eventually happen.
Punch enough knife-tips and you'll get cut. Greta wouldn't shut up and wouldn't sell out, now she's going to die a lot.
They abducted her in international waters. Don’t try to legitimize that. They stopped her on the basis of trafficking weapons to Hamas. Israel and Egypt acknowledge that stopping humanitarian aid in international waters is a violation of their treaty, and yet Israel did it anyways.
If you try to rationalize this type of behavior, what else do you rationalize?
You should look into the atrocities that have been committed at Israel/Us “aid” checkpoints, specifically the massacre of innocent, starving people.
Don't engage with them. They rely on attention to spread their shitty propaganda. Downvote, block and move on.
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