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[–] 45 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That window breaker appears to be a combo seat belt cutter and is a good item to have in your car in general. Didn’t know they were primarily marketed to women.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I have a combo window breaker, seatbelt cutter, fire starter, knife, flashlight next to the driver's seat in my and my wife's cars.

    We used to keep it in the glove box until we realized in an emergency (when it would be needed), it would be inaccessible.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is a thing I need to rectify myself (and I'm not talking at you directly) but make sure where you keep your tool is secured to a fixed object. There's some that have very snug holders that should keep them in place

    If you experience a rollover, you will be disoriented and everything will have been flung about. Nothing will be where is should be if you rely on pockets or compartments

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's in the center console that closes by sliding the cover closed. I'm not saying it's impossible for that to jam or come open, but in a case like that, the car would have to be in pretty bad shape and it still would have been useless in the glove box.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    We used to keep it in the glove box until we realized in an emergency (when it would be needed), it would be inaccessible

    On that note; in the event of a crash, will it stay where you put it, or go flying across the cabin?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's in the center console that closes by sliding the cover closed. I'm not saying it's impossible for that to jam or come open, but in a case like that, the car would have to be in pretty bad shape and it still would have been useless in the glove box.

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    [–] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    I had an uncle that wouldn't go walking without brass knuckles and a chain because he was scared of getting mugged.

    He lived in the most upper class suburban neighborhood I've ever seen but the conservative talk shows had just poisoned his mind, he was afraid of everything.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I knew a guy who lived in rich suburbs and bought a gun because he "heard a drug deal went down" and he "wanted to protect his daughter". People are stupid and even more so when scared.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Rich areas can be bad because that's where thieves go.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Yep. This is how it goes. People consume content like this religiously and begin to construct a false narrative of the world in their heads. And they then sort of seek out confrontation to bring that fantasy of victimhood into their life

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I had some and tried them on a tree. Those HURT. I dunno if I just got crappy ones but I can't see using them. FWIW armored gloves do just as much damage and don't fuck your fingers up.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's a sad state of affairs, but that's how it is. As a veloci er... regular human being that happens to be male, I can see why this happens. And one of the main problems we still have as a society is that when something happens to a woman, one of the things many assholes ask first is: "how was she dressed?" As if somehow it was the woman's fault because the poor man couldn't help it.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    👀👀

    In all seriousness, yeah, we (women) all know that's how it is. The image is critiquing the status quo though, because it's fluffing stupid.

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  • And the stupidest part of it is that this status quo hurts men too. Because they don't realize that perpetuating it makes women afraid of men (with a valid reason).

    Hell, right now, if a man approaches a woman, her first reaction is fear and distrust, and it's justified because they learned that it's better to fear a man and be safe than to trust him and be sorry later. And this is hurting men too because makes it harder to find someone even if you are a sane (as in not a potential rapist) individual. Helping to perpetuate this status quo is basically shooting ourselves in the foot, repeatedly.

    PS: just in case it wasn't clear, I speak as a male human being. 👀

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yo, that door lock doesn't do shit. If you're in a hotel room and want extra security, there's a couple of better options.

    https://www.redteamtools.com/super_grip_deadbolt_strap/?searchid=110375&search_query=door+strap

    This is the single best one.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've tested the door lock and doors I've used it on, it does actually work if you set it correctly and it fits the door itself.

    For both, it depends entirely on the door itself, and neither would stop someone determined kicking through the door. I've stayed in plenty of places where the deadbolt wouldn't work with the strap, but those are also places where the doors were made in China or Turkey, so nothing is standardized to EU/US/Canada specs.

    A regular ol' rubber door stopper often does the trick just as well. Layer your security.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Huh, I'd never thought about window breakers in that context.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A nice whack to the skull ought to do the job.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Take the point and dig it into their skin, somewhere soft and sensitive if you can. Behind the knee, on the ankle, or foot, may limit mobility a bit. The best bet is the pain will surprise them long enough for you to break free, or as a distraction to assist a friend.

    It's not super practical for defense, however. It will be best used to escape a building or vehicle. Spiderweb the windshield so they can't see, or so a cop pulls them over. Bathroom or back room with a window you can't open? Now you can.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm a man, and after seeing this I'm definitely buying the door lock thingy to prevent another man (3 years old son) getting into my office yelling during another meeting.

    Honestly didn't know it existed

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    for actual security, you'd want something beefier though.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    Men must really have weak hands, feet, eyes, and skulls compared to women, and be much harder to see. Sounds rough.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This kind of difference is always quite profound IMO. "Things for men" and "things for women" in almost every context is going to give different results. Doesn't matter if it's ppe or personal defense, or safety.... In almost all cases, there's going to be different results if you include gendered terms in your search.

    I imagine "support" would yield a very different result when including your gender too. But like I said, far from the only examples.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have the sudden urge to want to buy thigh high steel toe boots with built in knee pads. If such boots exist.

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  • [+] 22 points 1 year ago (23 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Unfortunately in Australia carrying any sort of weapon for self-defence is illegal, including pepper spray. I still, if I'm going into a higher-risk situation, carry something like a padlock or 3D printed cat-ear ring regardless. Rather be charged with assault than end up assaulted myself, or worse.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Same here in Canada.

    You can carry a knife, as long as it's a utility knife, or used for cooking, or if it's some kind of sporting equipment.

    If you use anything for defense, you're likely going to be getting a weapons charge.

    It's idiotic if you ask me. If only criminals can carry weapons, then only criminals will ever have weapons.

    IMO, nonlethal self defense equipment should be exempt from weapons laws until such time as it is used to perpetrate a crime, when it then becomes an offensive weapon and prohibited by law. (We have a similar law about knives/blades, they're not considered weapons until they're used in the commission of a crime).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    If only criminals can carry weapons, then only criminals will ever have weapons.

    Yes, by definition. So what?

    But, look at the US for what happens when everyone might be carrying a weapon. If a victim might have a gun, every criminal will have a gun just to even the odds. Since criminals all carry guns, police also have to carry guns, and police get incredibly paranoid that everyone they're dealing with is armed, so often their policy is shoot if they feel slightly uncomfortable, and ask questions later. Maybe plant a gun on the criminal if they were wrong. And, of course, the US leads every developed country in shooting deaths by a huge margin.

    Meanwhile, in the UK most cops don't even carry guns, nor do most criminals, and of course the general public doesn't either. And, unsurprisingly, shooting deaths are pretty rare.

    If normal people are allowed to have weapons on them, I think it will occasionally deter a crime. But, I think it would also cause a lot more accidents with those weapons. I also think untrained people would have their weapons taken away and used on them. I also think those weapons would often be used in crimes more often. A road rage incident involving two unarmed people would instead be a road rage incident where someone grabs whatever weapon is at hand. I think for the average person, it's more likely they'll be in a situation where they're irrationally angry and grab whatever weapon is nearby, than be in a situation where they need something to prevent themselves from being the victim of a crime.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I hear what you're saying, and I'm the last person to advocate for everyone to be allowed to carry lethal firearms with them at all times. No thanks.

    What I would like to see is that civilians have an option for personal self defense that is non-lethal. Like pepper spray. But that's prohibited here.

    The only option for legal self defense here is through training. The only weapon you're allowed to have is yourself. So until you, yourself, becomes a weapon, in every encounter with someone with ill intentions, you will be unarmed.

    I don't hate cops. I don't really love them either, especially right now in the wake of the BLM movement, but I won't get into that. But it's impractical at best to have enough LEOs to stop all crimes as they happen. You would need an officer on almost every corner 24/7. It would be a gigantic waste of time and money. Taxpayer money. Giving the general person an option for self defense that's proven to be non-lethal that doesn't require them to take hours of self defense or martial arts classes, would be nice.

    Right now, at least for me, here in Canada, such an option does not exist. Anything that can be considered a weapon, is a weapon unless it is part of a very narrow scope of exceptions; and if any of those exceptions are used as a weapon against another person for any reason, then the exception no longer applies.

    Not everyone has hours to dedicate to learning self defense. So unless there's a cop nearby, you're fucked.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I had to have my work knives in a locking knife roll when I worked in kitchens. There is definitely such a thing as too far.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm not sure where you live, but this would be legal in Canada.

    Since the purpose is to use them for cooking, unless they are instead used in perpetrating a crime, they're legal here.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm in Australia and while the laws are similar, the way they are enforced means that if you don't want to spend hours on the side of the road or a night in lockup while you prove your story then an abundance of caution is your best option. A very guilty until proven innocent system.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Got to fuck em up like Captain Janeway did to Tuvix

    Seriously though OP is spot on with the recommendation

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm on board with Janeway's decision on Tuvix but even I don't compare what she did to him with self-defense, lol.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh definitely not self-defense, I was more alluding to fact about the shooting twice thing but I’m just getting use to replying to comments ( I usually lurk) and didn’t know how that would go over in this community and was not trying to get banned or make an enemy from a Janeway meme (:

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    As a guy I'm embarrassed that this is so necessary.

    I'm so very very sorry that some men out there feel like it's okay to control someone for any reason, for any purpose, against their will.

    I wish you all the best, now, and in the future.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    and it is a minority of men who are the problem, but they are enabled

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That may be. The problem is that they exist in sufficient numbers to sway the general opinion.

    There will always be "evil" people in the world. So eliminating them entirely is extremely unlikely. But reducing their numbers, and their ability to impact others, is going to be the key.

    We need everyone to feel safe to go outside.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Once a month my dojo does a free women's self defense class. It's open to everyone and anyone, even if you don't have family/friends who go to the dojo.

    They even allow men (though rare) because everyone should have a basic knowledge of self defense but they focus on women since they are less likely to learn it on their own.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Ya we need more women in construction

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Genuinely curious what is the door lock thing?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's to physically lock hotel doors so they (again physically) can't be opened from the outside.
    Most of them are trash, but there exist good ones.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Makes sense, as after reading it I was wondering what it does that the kind of lock that can be engaged from the inside without an exterior keyhole doesn't already. So it's just for purely tool-less quick installation.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    In other words, women actually have weapons

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The point of the post is that women are much more likely to need ways to safeguard themselves from other people.

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  • [+] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Odd, I don't see a single ppe product when I search "women's safety items." In fact the above meme pops up along with a lot of self-defense stuff.

    Anecdotally, I have been noticing more women working construction; though I haven't looked at statistics. As for other ppe fields, idk about gender disparities in those but I know nursing is a woman dominated field and that requires plenty of ppe. Science research, labs, factories etc I have no idea about.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It was only within the last ~5 years I could find multiple options for women's safety shoes and not just small size men's shoes. Even then, I end up having to buy them online.

    My father had one woman classmate in his engineering classes back in the day. She was labeled as a ::shudder:: lesbian due to her STEM proclivities.

    Can't imagine why more women don't want to go into fields that require PPE when they're just so gosh darn welcoming.

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    Ok, but if we redact the question to

    "safety stuff commonly bought by men/women" it makes common sense now.

    There is no visibility vest, helmet, hard boots, pepper spray, taser, that You will have to prove Your gender before buying! Everyone can buy them.

    Ok, maybe hardwork boots be a problem, womens commonly have smaller shoe sizes, blame stores for not having small sizes.

    Let's move to the questions, why bicycle helmets are less popular by women, while bikes are awesome for all gender? why visibility vest are less popular for women (do they commonly care bout fashion over safety?) why stun gun and pepper sprays are less popular by men (guess commonly, yes, commonly, not always, but still commonly men are more strong for self protection, rarely wear height heels that prevent escaping, girls, go hit gyms and boxing clubs? /s?) Also everyone should have some solid door lock protections, whatever vs burglars, or door-to-door sellers

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    is that what you get from this astonishingly obvious picture of how culture treats masc and fem people differently?

    wow, more idiots on this site than i thought.

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  • [+] -24 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    A window-breaker with a seatbelt-cutter implies women are extremely concerned with driving into bodies of water. Is this really a problem most of us face on a regular basis?

    Want to connect the dots for me how this is men's fault?

    Or, you know, maybe women spend so much time and energy thinking about what could go wrong that it's a distortion of reality?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Window breakers are useful in any situation where the doors and windows are disabled; crashes, rollovers, fires, floods, Tesla being fucky.

    Seatbelt cutters are not usually needed in water situations, but are good in crashes where seatbelts are jammed. The style shown doesn't work on modern cars with laminated windows, one like this is better: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPS54FYL

    I don't think that item fits the message the meme is trying to express. Everyone should have a window breaker.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago*

    Is that really your take away? Its not about driving into water... The seatbelt cutter is not the point, the window breaker is. The fear is of being trapped inside an uber or similar - window and child locks engaged and being kidnapped or held against your will.

    All of the other items are about protecting yourself from people who may wish you harm, why would the window breaker be any different?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Not sure if you are just trolling or you smoke too much of the manosphere shit but in any case, you might want to turn off the internet and go out to touch some grass and maybe talk to a sane person.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    You're talking to a dude that's very likely DMing 40 different women he's never met complaining about how they never go for the nice guys.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know one of those, and another one that's becoming one. It's very funny to see them saying stuff like (and this is a quote) "I know what they (women) want, they just won't listen to me, as if they knew better". Then they wonder how approaching their 40s they are still alone and have been ghosted several times.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Gross. You'd think they'd get it after being left on read after they send "hey beautiful" to the Nth stranger on the internet, but people like that are just incapable of maturing.

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  • I mean, this guy shared with us (when I was still part of that group, that I left for obvious reasons) some screencaps of his chat with a woman that would have been hilarious in a sitcom:

    The guy insisted on asking her out for a coffee several times. Last time, she replied with a simple "yeah, we'll see".

    He took that as a confirmation for a date (that never happened because she didn't come) and, angry because she "betrayed him", he sent her 2 voice messages (each one 3 minutes long) explaining how she betrayed him, and how bad she was because he took that time for her and yada yada.

    She ghosted him of course. And he's still saying he was right and she was just a bitch.

    Okay dude, you just keep going that way, no wonder why women don't want to touch you even with a 6 meter pole...

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why would I need to DM 40 different women to complain about how they never go for nice guys?

    Is this an attempt at an insult?

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago

    We’ve built a society awash in narcissistic validation loops. These forces don’t just encourage narcissism but normalize it as the default mode of social interaction. People have become habituated to living inside echo chambers of praise, where questioning or contradiction is seen as an act of hostility or oppression. The quest for self-esteem has become less about actual achievement or growth and more about crafting a narrative of victimhood, entitlement or exceptionalism.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

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