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so fucked up how most of us just want to enjoy our lives peacefully on this planet with people we love and have fun embracing the ridiculousiness of life and yet all our futures are consistently in the hands of a select group of insanely rich corrupt pricks who are some of the worst humans to ever exist

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[–] 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's a paradox. The people who would use such wealth for good almost never become billionaires in the first place. It takes a significant amount of ruthlessness. No one becomes a billionaire without exploitation. And there are a select few who actually follow through on giving up their fortunes (while still alive, I consider the "giving pledge" upon death to be null and void).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Which is why taxation and regulations around worker protections and wages are so important. If we cannot trust individuals to do good things with their money then they can have a large enough pile to play with and the rest can go back into the world that carried them to their ill-gotten wealth.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I think about this every... single... day.

    Why don't we all just collectively say "no"? What the fuck would these 70–80-year old dick-tators do then?! NOTHING.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    We're not unified and we're incapable to be that organized. The billionaires are rich enough to buy the important infuencial people and to manipulate the masses with propaganda. It's hard to fight that, as we can see now.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    i dont think were incapable. but to be fair i havent put that much thought into it. but i think there is a way we can at least checkmate them into being good.

    for instance. lets say there is some FOSS that is better than any other paid/sub software like spotify. how would it work? i do not know. but lets just say, its possible.

    people will use it, and spotify will dry up unless they change their model. they could try to buy up the foss, but we can just say no.

    maybe a system where the community buy land through taxes. slowly putting it back in the hands of the people/local council. the rich are squeezing us out, but we can squeeze back.

    there could be a marketing campaign similar to 'diamonds are a girls best friend' but more inline with 'community money is worth more than gold' so that we just stop selling to the rich. ingrain it in the people.

    have people learn that billionaires are actually mentally ill and we should feel sorry for them and offer them therapeutic support to help them with their addiction. make them feel small like they are.

    sometimes people go out to clean up the forest, or comb the beaches for trash and plastic as a way to give back to the community and help the world. similarly we could be using that same kind of effort healing the world from capitalism.

    so not really incapable. but there needs to be a focused effort in specific directions.

    i feel what is holding us back mostly is infighting(which is both an ancient practice of humanity as well as a consistent marketing campaign by the wealthy). once we can get past that, the world is our oyster.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I agree on all points. I believe in the possibility of a positive change, because, after all, we've seen it in the past. I just seem to be more pessimistic about the easiness of avoiding infighting. I feel like the bad guys have much better technology and know-how to control the general population than ever before, and so the fight for positive change is getting harder.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It’s easier to organize a small group of people around a shared common interest than it is to organize everyone else around opposing that interest. Everyone else still has their own individual interests but they don’t all align.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes, I agree. However, it's getting harder to do even that because of disinfo campains aimed to make common interests appear controversial.

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  • That’s one reason. I think there are many more. For one thing, we no longer live in communities. Our sense of belonging, solidarity, and social responsibility is largely gone. We’re now living in a sort of every man for himself type of situation. There are still some groups but they’re political or business based rather than community based.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    A large percentage of people wouldnt join. And what would the rich do? I imagine that they'd start by hunting down and killing the leaders of that movement. And their families. Society wont protect us. They'll frame you for "terrorism" or sex crimes, or murder. They'll hire witnesses and plant guns in your bag-- whatever they need to do.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    If money wasn't a thing, we could just say "no", I suppose. If we all had a spine and didn't bend to the almighty dollar. Would be nice if we could. We are enslaved by money. Forced to kill each other so someone else can get more power.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I hope people keep this concept in mind when the ones ready to fight for the planet and our future reach a critical mass:

    “The Earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses.”

    ~Utah Phillips

    Inb4 pedant quibbles that "the planet itself is not dying." Yeah, but we and our fellow creatures are. It should be understood that is what Mr. Phillips meant.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    At this point it's a clear problem of human bias. We love our instincts so much that when we have sufficient power, we'll assure that people never challenge them, even when the offices we hold require reason contrary to those instincts.

    The whole bit about bullshit jobs serves as an example, because our upper management desire to hold court and have courtiers and garden hermits buzzing about them like components of an orrery (I'm teaching my spellchecker words today).

    In the media industry the process of crunching developers to make deadlines (even though it kills productivity and slows the rate of progress) is another example, and yet all the AAA game development companies do it... or are doing it so long as they exist. Our private equity firms are now doing to the big ones what was once done to Toys 'r Us, leaving a sinkhole of debt and bankruptcy where there was once a reputable company.

    Our inability to see our community past our top fifty Facebook friends (or fellow villagers) prevents us from thinking in terms of cooperating with society, rather we deign ourselves part of the true Americans (or Belgians or Maoists or whatever), and so we fail to recognize personal greed as a mental disorder, rather a moral failing.

    In a Star Trek society, someone who hoarded liquidatable assets would be regarded similar to someone who filled their house with junk (and hopefully not as they are abused on Bravo), we'd intervene, put them in a rehab center for a year, where they learn to exist in the comfort of minimalism. But in our own world, extremely wealthy people are regarded as a a higher strata of person, given power and authority to command PMCs, and eventually swarm-armies of killer robots managed by AI.

    Currently, our tolerance of human billionaires is killing us, and it poses a global catastrophic risk not just of the human species but of 90%+ of all species on the planet.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    you should don a hoodie and start something like fsociety, I am ready to lay my life bare for your cause

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    pffft I'm watching Mr Robot again as we speak.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    finished it recentlyI find the ending a little vanilla ngl

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Did you enjoy it? I remember quite liking it when it came out, but now I'm finding it hard to rewatch.

    It doesn't have the near-infinite rewatchability of a Silicon Valley let's say.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    once you know what the show is about, the characters sometimes can't justify their actions. I was spoiled mid way through s3 and then the fun died. I just watched it for closure but plot didn't hit me that well.

    Characters are weirdly written for my taste, plot is good but the sub plots are repetitive but visuals slap, tech banters were a little cringey but for the first time it felt realistic-ish... ykwim

    I liked it, but it's no dark

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah you summed it up. It's trying too hard. I think I'll shelve it for now, I'll look into your suggestion.

    "The story follows dysfunctional characters from the fictional town of Winden in Germany, as they pursue the truth in the aftermath of a child's disappearance."

    So it's like M?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    M?

    If I draw parallels, I might ruin it for you. It's

    Likelake caddo

    Not saying I disliked Mr. Robot, I liked it very much indeed, but it was not very tasteful for me

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well, on my rewatch, I just find the whole thing forced. I can't really understand any of the character's motivations. Unlike Silicon Valley, where each character is some kind of caricature, but it's very human and relatable, I can understand it, which makes it so funny.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    we’d intervene

    That's the problem, we won't. There is too much now that needs to be done, and your neighbors don't care. Try telling your neighbor not to use a dirty 2-stroke gas lawnmower, or weed killer on a residential law, they'll hate you, won't understand what you're talking about, and think that you are stupid. Everything then becomes a state intervention with police, courts, laws, jails.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Try telling

    There's your problem, right there.

    Have a conversation. Ask questions. Live by example. When asked, demonstrate the advantages of doing differently.

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    We may well be. As we careen towards great filters like the climate crisis (and running out of fresh water for agriculture) we may drive ourselves to extinction, or (if we're... lucky?) close enough to extinction that all our present culture and most of our scientific knowledge is lost.

    The version in which one out of eight people survives, is the good ending. Then we might be able to adjust our institutions to the smaller population. But expect all the Horsemen of the Apocalypse to put on a show, and claim their due.

    But here we are under Trump dealing with the same kinds of problems that arose under Hitler and Mussolini and countless other dictators. We're going to keep doing this thing where we let small factions game the system for themselves until we figure out how to effectively prevent it. If we don't figure it out then in a hundred-thousand years, when the atmosphere has healed and the plastic has mostly been cleared from nature and we start populating again, we'll still have the same problem... or maybe not. Maybe we'll have evolved a bit.

    (Homo Erectus experienced a similar period of scarcity and a population of less than 10,000 until the world got more habitable, and they got pushed out by competing hominids like us.)

    We need to end the war of kings and resolve our grievances so we can face the ice zombie army from the north... and unlike Season 8, we're pretty sure killing the Ice King isn't going cause an ontological collapse the way killing Sauron collapsed the organization structure of the goblins and they fled back to the mountain caves. (GRRM was all about subverting fantasy tropes that didn't mesh with real-life experience)

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I would cut off both my arms if it meant I could kick a billionaire to death.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    Pedo island reoccurring patrons were all politically connected. Trump now trying to release the guilty child trafficking member from prison

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    peaceful enjoyment is a luxury apparently only afforded to the people actively ruining it for everyone else.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So what can we do about this?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    ... and who get to live that ideal livelihood while making sure nobody else can.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Every era, lather, rinse, and repeat.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Super profound

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    So, I'm a terrible person, but im a fun terrible person.

    I propose making me queen of the world, here's why:

    I woukd fet rid of all the dumb limits

    Unless they're funny

    Id try to stop bad stuff

    Then id kill myself, because regicide is on my bucket list

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    [+] -11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Hot take: does holding this opinion make a positive change around you? Does it make you a better person or do you just become bitter. You could learn a new skill or do some volunteer work.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    It's certainly changed my life for the better.

    The first step to solving a problem is identifying it.

    Once you know the problems plaguing, most modern-day peoples are atomisation, exploitation, and dehumanization... It makes it pretty clear how many people you have in your corner. That's a good feeling, and it naturally leads to solutions to those problems.

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