Where do you think Trump is sending all the homeless? A big old wooden screw press...

There's something unpleasantly psychopathic in emotion about BtVS, but this one moment was funny.

It would have cost you nothing to not write this.

I think it's worth pointing out that vanilla extract is from vanilla beans and artificial vanilla is whatever the fuck they feel like that tastes like vanilla. Also, modern artificial vanilla extremely rarely, if ever, is derived from Castoreum because it's hard as hell to farm beavers and expensive as all fuck. The "artificial vanilla comes from beaver anal glands" is basically a prevalent internet myth that gets passed around like the, "You eat 7 spiders a year in your sleep." myth.

Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/does-vanilla-flavoring-actually-come-from-beaver-butts-180983288/

Also, poop has natural flavour. Natural flavour also doesn't mean it tastes good.

Mmmm, I like licking beaver butt. 😉

Myth. Vanilla extracts either come from low grade vanilla pods or cloves. It may have been but not today.

Fuck man I had no idea, I've missed out on my prime years of eating beaver anal secretions 😭

My ex wife's uncle was the director of the south American division of the arm that made coloring and flavorings of one of the big Food/Chem groups, Procter & Gamble, or unilever, or one of those. Can't remember.

No one in his household ate any processed/ultra processed foods.

Do the math.

It makes me think of Enterprise, where they don't have replicators but they do have protein resequencers, which can take waste matter and convert it into useful things, but they can't do energy to matter conversion yet.

Maybe the manufacturer is in New Zealand and the French-Canadian people are the guys who package and sell it or something. Dunno, just did a quick skim of their site.

"Eat my gas" should be their slogan.

The conclusion ought to be that billionaires shouldn't exist. Even if they donate most of their wealth, they will still donate in ways that aren't necessarily solving real problems.

Ruminants creating greenhouse gasses is a problem that can solve itself by returning to huge fucking pastures and cooperative farming.

Instead, we're getting synthetic food. We're a decade removed from human grade kibble at this point.

Here again, capitalism is the problem. A capitalist offering capitalism solutions to problems created by capitalism isn't appealing.

We focus too much on efficiency and cost sometimes. Sometimes efficiency is only a "nice to have" while being outweighed by practicality, convenience, safety, and any of the other factors we choose to make a priority.

It is expensive and inefficient for an airplane to have two engines instead of just one. We do it anyway because it's required for safety and redundancy. We made that the priority, and that was an active choice. We need to start making more active choices about what the priority is when it comes to our energy futures. All priorities have tradeoffs. Cost and efficiency have their own tradeoffs. Question it when people tell you that things can't be done because of "cost" or "efficiency". When they do that they're presupposing what the priority is, but often it's billionaires trying to cut corners to make themselves richer at our expense, our safety, our futures. We can do inefficient things. Sometimes it's even the right choice.

Honestly, I'm mostly wondering about the nutrition factor. Not that you expect much from butter, but we all know this will be slipped into other things, just like hfcs.

hydrogen probably.. just need further development

You can get a hydrogen car today. Just that if you're outside a few places like Japan and California, finding a fueling station might be a bit difficult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Mirai

Sales in Japan began on 15 December 2014 at ¥6.7 million (~US$57,400) at Toyota Store and Toyopet Store locations. The Japanese government plans to support the commercialization of fuel-cell vehicles with a subsidy of ¥2 million (~US$19,600).[12] Retail sales in the U.S. began in August 2015 at a price of US$57,500 before any government incentives. Deliveries to retail customers began in California in October 2015.[13] Toyota scheduled to release the Mirai in the Northeastern United States in the first half of 2016.[14] As of June 2016, the Mirai was available for retail sales in the UK, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, and Norway.[15] Pricing in Germany started at €60,000 (~US$75,140) plus VAT (€78,540).[16]

https://www.toyota.com/mirai/

2025 Mirai

Starting MSRP $ 51,795

https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/hydrogen-locations#%2Ffind%2Fnearest%3Ffuel=HY

They do fuel up a lot faster than BEVs do, but the fuel cost is considerably higher than for BEVs.

I wonder where they source the methane from. Because I pictured a comicbook flip book of a balloon blowing up behind a cow

Perhaps. But if we really go hard on green energy, we'll likely have a lot of excess energy in the daytime, so it makes sense to look into alternatives to land and water intensive products (like dairy and beef) that are heavy on electricity. If it's a more efficient use of land to have solar panels instead of cows eating grass (and solar panels work just as well on farmland as they do in the desert, unlike grass), then it makes a ton of sense even if it spikes electricity consumption.

That depends entirely on the method used to generate the power. In fact carbon capture only works if you use renewable energy to capture the carbon, otherwise there's literally no point.

How it is made in the lab may or may not be sustainable, but it's a proof of concept so it doesn't really matter. If this were commercialised then you would use renewable energy, perhaps solar panels on top of the factory building, although you could just connect to a green grid. Clearly the facility will be constructed somewhere other than the United States.