"Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier," Zelenskyy said in a Telegram message early Saturday.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy defiantly declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.

“The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the constitution of Ukraine,” Zelenskyy said in a message on Telegram early Saturday. “No one will and no one can deviate from it. Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier.”

His comments came after Trump announced on Truth Social that a long-awaited meeting with Vladimir Putin had been scheduled for next Friday in Alaska.

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[–] 171 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Weird how the articles say, "swap" when they really mean Ukraine will bé forced to give up land. That's not a swap.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    What's with the accent over the letter é in be?

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Typed on a phone with French keyboard. "be" is not a French word, but "bé" is.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Only ever saw that one in scrabble though…

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Go to Saint-Malo, you'll find two of them :)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’ll need more guidance… I was there last year and « bé » doesn’t ring any bell.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Just like the recent US-brokered "peace deal" between Armenia and Azerbaijan, where Armenia gave up everything and the violent dictator Aliev pinky promised not to attack them again...

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Swap? Russia is not giving up anything. Russia would be swapping useless Ukrainian land for important land they dont control. Thats a stupid deal and another stupid deal in trumps stupid belt.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    So, which part of USA territory is Trump willing to give up? Well, if the answer is none, that much of land is Ukraine willing to give up.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I volunteer Texas and Florida!

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Texas would beat Russia in a war.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think a swap is a great idea. Zelenskyy should ask for St Petersburg and Konigsberg for Donbas and Luhansk.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I wish people understood better the monster that is Trump

    "He invented the Art of the Deal"

    The Art of the Deal was ghostwritten and Trump had little to no say in it outside of "Make me look good"

    "But he's still good at making deals, that's why he's so successful."

    His secret to success was a refusal to pay his workers and contractors, knowing it'd be more expensive to sue him for stolen wages than it would be to just work pro-bono.

    "But he's a businessman!"

    He played one on TV for the show "The Apprentice", but in reality most Trump ventures have a track-record of going bankrupt. Running for President is the one thing that's gone well for him, this is because we live in a fucking clown show and God is dead. God perished in a tragic fire that claimed the lives of Santa Claus, The heavily bosomed maiden who invented pizza, and any reason I have to think it will ever be okay again.

    In short, Trump isn't good at making deals. His only move is to tell people to eat shit and like it, and exploit legal loopholes, corrupt lawyers, and a system that favors the rich above all else to make it happen.

    In a just world, Trump would be a cautionary riches to rags story.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    I see the child rapist is having his delusions again making up stories.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If I was home invaded and a cop showed up right at that moment and the solution was..."I'll let the home invader leave your house, but only if you give him your television.". I am Ukraine, the home invader is Russia and the cop is trump. What a debacle!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If I was home invaded and a cop showed up

    Of course that's going to make things worse

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Trump talked about swapping territories, but he never said Ukraine. He's talking about America. He's going to give Alaska to Russia, and Russia is going to give us Canada, and maybe Greenland.

    Trump will look at the fact that Canada is much bigger than Alaska, so he wins. It won't occur to him that Canada isn't Russia's to give away, nor does Alaska belong to Trump to give away.

    Trump will make announcement like he's the greatest deal maker in history, American citizens will be outraged, and Putin will just laugh and laugh...

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So trump thinks it's about land mass, and not the people living there. Gotya.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not a lot of people living in these territories remaining, on account of the continuous warfare. Hundreds of thousands not in active military have been refugees for years now.

    Furthering complicating things are the number of residents who were killed in the conflict. They don't get their land back under any conditions.

    I see a lot of "If I was in Ukraine, I'd go down fighting" shitposts on the sub. But all the Reddit Commandos who thought they'd win one for the gipper went out in airstrikes back in early 2023.

    The only westerners still engaged with this war are treating it like a sportsball game in extra innings. They don't care about the death toll. All they care about is the territory.

    It's the same brain rot that's got Israelis obsessed with punishing Gaza for October 7th, except the Ukrainians aren't "winning".

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    There's lots of people living in occupied areas that the Russians took in the first few days. The regions that have been fought over for the past 3 years .. yes you're right... No much remains there.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago

    As he should.

    Fuck trump. Fuck Russia. Slava ukraini

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago*

    Russia gets everything east of Moscow, Ukraine gets everything west. We can build a wall down the middle of Moscow to show it.

    That’s why it’s called the Art of the Deal baby

    (⌐■_■)

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wait I thought there was going to be peace right after he got elected....

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    This whole USA diplomacy is fucking whack. Lots of confusion on what, why, where.

    First, after Witkoff dialog in russia, Trump told European partners that there would be exchange Kherson/Zaporizhzhya (russia moves out) to Donetsk/Luhansk (Ukraine moves out).

    Then next day Witkoff says russia is not planning to retreat from anywhere.

    Next day, EU leaders demanded a call with Witkoff, where he confirmed the deal is "Ukraine moves out of Donetsk in exchange to ceasefire".

    Fucking clowns.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Wait, isn't there an arrest warrant for Putin? The US would ignore it to talk to him in Alaska?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    US is not a signatory to the ICC

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In fact, the US actively opposes the ICC and has made Microsoft block the chief prosecutor's email

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    and this thread is why i visit lemmy

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law

    U.S. President George Bush today signed into law the American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002, which is intended to intimidate countries that ratify the treaty for the International Criminal Court (ICC). The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the "Hague invasion clause," has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands.

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    Even if the US is not a signatory to the international criminal court, they will guard human rights! Especially when it comes to Putin Trump will give his best to lead him to justice without ICC compromize.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I hope this is sarcasm, if you believe this I have a Taj Mahal I want to sell to you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trust in Trump, Jesus will guide him to the American golden age of human rights.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is very big, white like the White House, but better. It is made from white marble. Looks great on the bank of the river. All for the cheap price of 50000 USD. If you would like we can ship it to you, shipping included. But you have to take care of the tariff. Whatever it might be when it reaches your shore. /s

    On serious note do you think everyone deserve human rights. Or are you a White Christian Nationalist and are of the opinion only whites deserve it. Once all the brown people are deported, blacks are made slaves again will you reach the

    golden age of human rights.

    Because that is what you Baby Emperor with no clothes is doing.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    zelenskyy is my main double y guy

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Europe did a deal with Trump hoping he will continue to support war in Ukraine. I am sure they are feeling vindicated now.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This just in! Texas has a new law! The "stand your ground, or we could just trade spots law"!

    Here's how it works:

    If a bad actor(Like Jim Carry) gets into your home, what are you going to do? Exactly! Grab the broom, and start discussing how you could clean up after the guy and still live in your garage. This new law makes all that legal and more!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    How dare you sully Jim's good name

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Look realistically they will eventually need to give up land. They should take nothing less than NATO membership.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Why the fuck would they need to give up THEIR fucking land?

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Because they don't seem able to retake it? Might makes right, unfortunately.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Then why do they have Ukrainian land?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Then why isn't the war over if they won?

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I am not saying they have won completely and without any losses. But they clearly have gained land and Ukraine has not. It hurts people's feelings but Russia is winning and it is not changing. Ukraine needs to stop the war, even if they are not the ones who started it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Russia could just leave. That would stop the war since they started it.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why would they just leave? It doesn't make sense if they are gaining ground.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes, giving aggressors a reward for their behavior is a historically tried and tested strategy and will make the world a more peaceful place. /s

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's a war of attrition at this point, with Ukraine providing almost all the people to become casualties but highly dependent on foreign aid for weapons, ammunition, intelligence, and continued sanctions enforcement on Russia. If either the foreign support or the domestic supply of soldiers falls short before the Russian economy collapses, Russia gets to keep the occupied land. If the first break is the ruble tanks to the point desperate poor foreigners stop signing up en masse to be cannon fodder in the Russian army, Ukraine could realistically take back the territory they lost.

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