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[–] 202 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Trump voter can go fuck himself. Then get back to fuckin work doing what his employees used to do before he voted for Trump.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Himself

    Vincent Scardina supported Donald Trump’s tough stance on immigration at the ballot box. But that decision came back to bite the roofing boss when ICE detained a third of his workforce.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    He can hire other Magats. They will do the job even better!

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    My Dad did construction for 40 years. Even before the companies started hiring a lot of immigrants, it's hard to find roofers.

    It's a hard to find people with the knowledge or ability to learn - that are also not afraid of heights and have the coordination to not fall off and the attention to detail to not make the conditions for other people to fall.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Plus it's a horrible job. My dad was also a general contractor, and where we live is very hot and dry in the summer. I remember, as a kid, seeing roofers on top of a house in 100+ F heat, mopping hot tar; I thought that must be the worst job there was. When I got older and started working in aerospace, when my boss would say he needed someone to do some unfun task, I'd always volunteer because I'd be thinking, "this is so much better than mopping tar on a hot roof."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'd take a tar mop in the summer over the winter any day

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I used to work outside in -10F regularly. Far preferable to 100F.

    Its easier to get warm than cool.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Try -20F, and soaked in sweat. Winter flat roofing sucks

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Diesel tended to gel much past -10. But tree climbing doesn't offer much wind protection, either.

    Our rule was to never sweat if it could be helped. Layers.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Our rule was to never sweat if it could be helped

    A good rule, it just can't really be helped on a flat roof. Whether you're swinging a mop (which we tried to avoid in winter; keeping the tar kettle hot can be a challenge) or torching rolled roofing, the hot-cold-hot-cold is unavoidable, nevermind the physical exertion. I'm glad I got out of that shit.

    Tree climbing, eh? Arborist?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Setting B-net on ski race courses is like this. 10 minutes in and you’re sweating bullets, strip down to undershirt layer.

    We’ve also had to fully shovel 1.5km of course when 8-10 inches of snow fell the night before. On top of the exertion, you’re literally wasting a powder day. The snow cats can’t groom it because the course will be too soft, and when it’s that cold we can’t salt the course either, so it’s shoveling and slipping (using your skis like snow plows) the course.

    I have to bring a second or third dry layer because after the setup we have to stand around in the subzero temp for the next 5-7 hours no matter the weather (winds can be insane as long as it’s not enough to shut down the lifts, but it’s better than rain or sleet).

    Then we gotta take it all down.

    And I do this for $80 a day and free passes for my kids and I. Still better than roofing by immeasurable amounts.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But no Amuricans want to do back breaking labor for only $5 an hour, and without healthcare or three weeks vacation. Where am I supposed to find new labor to exploit so cheaply?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s not even want it’s can’t afford to.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah, those American workers get kind of pissed when they get handed a 1099 at the end of the year and owe Taxes, Social Security/Medicare, and fees. A US citizen gets injured & starts to seek benefits because of it the state or feds probably likely to review if they are not just classifying employees as contractors.

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  • [–] 141 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Starting to feel cheap getting so much use out of this

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Should have used the version of this picture that makes his face bigger

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  • [–] 108 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    “It’s quite a shock. You get to know these guys, you become their friends—not just an employer but a friend,” he told NBC6

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    After he said he didn't really have buyer's remorse. Fuck this guy.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Scardina says he voted for Trump and still supports many of the former president’s policies, but this isn’t what he signed up for. “Buyer’s remorse? I don’t know, a little bit,” he said.

    Maybe a little bit. I mean, that detention and deportation stuff might be just a touch heavy handed. One of these roofers had a little girl! I think. Oh well. Trump must have a plan or something.
    I am trying to make it satire, but I don't think I am managing...

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  • [–] 101 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    HE'S their EMPLOYER! If there were any justice he'd be in jail for employing them.

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  • [–] 119 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Adding to Scardina’s annoyance, the men had valid work permits and pending asylum applications, according to their attorney Regilucia Smith. “They are legally here,” she said. “Valid work permit, not even close to expired… again, no criminal records—not here, not in Nicaragua.”

    Remember, it's not only the people who are here illegally that are being arrested/deported.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's important to remember that it isn't your citizenship or documentation that is the problem, it is your origin. If you were born somewhere else, they want you out, no matter what your legal situation is. Once they get done rounding up the undocumented, they will come for the rest. They don't even respect birthright citizenship, which is baked into the Constitution, they certainly aren't going to respect green cards or naturalized citizenship.

    If you were born someplace else, you are unwelcome by the MAGA Nazis, and they will send you back, citizen or not.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Elon Musk has been a US citizen for more than 20 years, and they were talking about deporting him after he questioned Dear Leader and some of the Project 2025 agenda. And he's not even a person of color.

    They definitely don't care about the law. They only care about homogeneity in both thought and appearance.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Pure leopard material yes, but this also highlights where the goalposts have shifted. The business owner fell for "were getting the criminals and rapists" lie, while the admin is rounding up everyone.

    According to his lawyer, these employees had their papers in order and no criminal records domestically or in home country. So why were these employees collected? and why are so many republicans okay with this behaviour?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    The sad part is that even if the lives of these MAGAs get worse - worse than the lives of the immigrants they look down upon in their home country, they would likely still be racist.

    There are pockets in rural America, an obscenely rich country, that are borderline third world country conditions, and they still vote Republican with a sense of superiority and extreme ignorance of their relative standard of living compared to rest of the world.

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if some of them were okay with trading electricity and sewage systems (return to 1700s) for racial and religious homogeny.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    President Lyndon B. Johnson was correct when he said:

    If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

    That was 60 years ago. It hasn't changed. The rich and the political elite like it this way.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yeah, I know, and it's sad (but not surprising) that it's still true. I should read up about the larger context of that quote.

    I personally believe with zero background knowledge that we're just not evolved enough to have empathy beyond our physical sphere of influence. Like as an aggregate, unless we personal interact with another human, we seem to have no problem vilifying them. We seem to even be able to hate ppl who look exactly like us too, lol. Civil wars are so ridiculously common in history.

    It's like we tend to hate humans who look nothing like us or exactly like us, lol. Everything between that spectrum is acceptable.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So why were these employees collected?

    Brown people.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That, and the fact that there just aren't as many undocumented immigrants in the US as Trump and his advisors have claimed. So to stoke fear they need to keep the numbers up. Any innocent, law-abiding, legal residents caught up in their net are acceptable collateral damage (in their view).

    One can only hope that in 50 years, Trumpism and mass deportations will be a short-lived historical anomaly like McCarthyism and the Red Scare.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    I might be naive, but many Republicans are okay with it just because it hasn't affected them yet.

    Oh, this guy knew these workers, thought of them as friends? Clearly they were just hiding their criminal lifestyle from him. Not like MY friends. Hey, why are there a bunch of white vans outside their house?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    They're OK with it because on the surface level, it's what they want. Any single little bit of inspection and it falls apart, but they get to call them illegals, criminals, etc and talk about how good a job Trump is doing. They get to claim a win over the Libs, and that is the height of what they want from this presidency.

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Scardina, who runs a small roofing business in Florida’s Lower Keys, cannot believe it. “It’s quite a shock. You get to know these guys, you become their friends—not just an employer but a friend,” he told NBC6, visibly emotional.

    He continued, "It's almost like they're actual people. I mean not actually, but almost, you know?!"

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    “It’s quite a shock. You get to know these guys, you become their friends—not just an employer but a friend,”

    This guy doesn't understand how friendship works. You guys are my friends, and that's why I've voted in someone to ruin your life, because I care about you! But this is mildly inconvenient for me too guys, c'mon think about me.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The real problem is that the MAGA movement doesn't really believe Trump's literal words. Because the man lies so often, they seem to just go on vibes. But then when Trump actually does something he said he'd do, the voters are suddenly all surprised Pikachu when Trump's actions don't match their personal interpretation of what they thought he meant.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This is quite amazing to me since it seems to be the actual case. The people who were saying we shouldn't listen to him, but watch what he does, were openly advocating for a man whose word they know means nothing. It's perplexing. Politicians are an untrustworthy lot one and all, but god damn, the open and naked willingness to vote for someone whose position they can't know, whose promises carry absolutely no weight, that's truly stupendous.

    They are at once admitting Trump says horrible shit, but also that he's an inveterate liar and that makes it better somehow. Both him being honest and dishonest should be equally disturbing. That's some next level cognitive dissonance.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Still, his colleague, Virgil Scardina, says they count themselves lucky. “I get to go home and hug my kid,” he said. “These guys don’t. And they don’t deserve that.”

    "Given what you know now will you vote against trump and the GOP in all races coming up?" - reporter probably

    "Absolutely not! The GOP will always have my vote!" - this Roofing company owner probably

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    im deeply confused as to how this isnt the standard follow-up.. "would you change your vote if you could?" and "will you continue to vote for the party that has these policies in their platform?"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Actual journalists tend to avoid anything that appears partisan. Their job is to report the news, not to deliver commentary.

    And a 20-year campaign by Republicans against mainstream journalists has left them in a position where even straight factual reporting is considered biased by 50% of voters.

    I agree that someone should follow up with these people and get them to really consider how their politics are affecting their own daily lives. But that really needs to be dealt with by pundits and talk-show hosts instead of reporters.

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  • right, those actual journalists who are from organizations ejected from the whitehouse and threatened by a fascist takeover of the fcc to lose their licenses for pointing out the king has no clothes.

    hows that neutrality workin out for ya, switzerland

    kind feels like the story is the zombified population voting against their own best interests and it should be followed up on by everyone with a voice.

    this isnt 50 years ago when honesty, decorum, respect existed and the league of women voters ran presidential debates. we are now a non-trivial percent away from no longer being a democracy.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago

    He’s not actually upset about his staff being kidnapped, he’s just upset about his own bank account

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago*

    Trump voter gets choked

    🥳

    up

    😴

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    Scardina says he voted for Trump and still supports many of the former president’s policies, but this isn’t what he signed up for. “Buyer’s remorse? I don’t know, a little bit.”

    Lessons learned: 0

    Party supported in next election: republiQan

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Guy is a fucking roofer, and he's voting to kick out all foreigners. What a putz.

    I was in roofing for a few years, and believe me, you want a Mexican ( or some other south of the border) crew working on your roof. They are fast, quiet, efficient, and fast. They will get it done, and get it done right.

    Only a terrible businessman, and really stupid person would vote for the guy who is expressly saying that he intends to hurt your workers, and your business. "Yep, Im voting for the guy who is promising to ruin my business!"

    This guy deserves everything he gets.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    PLEASE be Considerate. He THOUGHT he would be Able to Bully Black Children at his Client's HOMES! He DIDNT expect THIS so be NICE AND RESPECTFUL stupid dumb librul losers!

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I hope all these maga trump supporting idiots go bankrupt

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    i could only hope.

    but it's not even close to the amount of punishment they deserve.

    they ruined the lives and communities of so many people, and are upset that they hurt them so much they can no longer exploit them.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    You had no idea that something like this might happen, huh?

    So the world gets to suffer now, because you leaned into and voted for chaos.

    Two in the thoughts, one in the prayers, you asshole.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    yeah... ya'll really dumb enough to ignore every sign this was going to happen. Thing is, you were always racist. You're just upset that your wealth is at risk from voting in a psychopath that doesnt care about anybody but himself.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    OH NO
    anyway

    Edit: Just realized this could be misunderstood. The above sarcasm was in the "fuck you, leopards at your face because you and others voted for leopards who eat faces" kind of way.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Won't someone please think of the business owners!? These are actual businesses being impacted by this shit. :(

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think a tinier violin is needed in this case?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    🤣 like a child when they get caught, they only care when it affects them.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Now he can hire American workers, right?

    What do you mean that American workers don't want to work for less than minimum wage and no benefits?

    No one wants to work anymore!

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    1000001630

    Making Americans Humble Again

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    "I didn't vote for this"

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Vincent is another MAGA POS, zero sympathy. Hopefully this asswipe ends up on a roof with 30 C + temperatures.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    He's got an Italian sounding name himself. DEPORT

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    They should ask these people the real question: "Will you now start listening to the people who have been warning others of Trump?"

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    While being arrested, right? Because they arrested the business owner who broke the law several times, right?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Adding to Scardina’s annoyance, the men had valid work permits and pending asylum applications, according to their attorney Regilucia Smith. “They are legally here,” she said. “Valid work permit, not even close to expired… again, no criminal records—not here, not in Nicaragua.”

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Schadenfreude 😈

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