"AI bad" overrides "Piracy ok", though. I've seen threads in the main piracy community where the general consensus seemed to be that copyright should be used as a weapon against AI.

• Piracy ok

I'm not sure how true that is for the largest instance (lemmy.world) but apart from that it seems quite on point

I think what muddles the water on the "Leftwing" character of Lemmy is that there are two kinds here: those whose personal Principles (mainly around the importance reducing the suffering and increasing the happiness of others, rather than just themselves) which lead them to support leftwing policies and those support Political forces or ideologies which are deemed Leftwing, and hence see themselves as Leftwing.

IMHO it's last group that explains in Lemmy things like authoritarian leftwingers (i.e. tankies) and people who think they're leftwingers because they tribalistically support certain mainstream political parties who claim to be Left but are at best moral liberal and even that second to their very rightwing broader stand on general Equality and quality of life for the many (such as the US Democrats, UK Labour, German SPD and so on).

My impression is that Lemmy has a much higher proportion of Principled Left-wingers than the wider society.

This is probably why if you're not in an instance that blocks the tankie instances, in between the tankies, the principled types and the mainstream "leftwing" party tribalists it almost feels like there are 3 kinds of "Left" in Lemmy.

Yeah, I enjoyed that about reddit at that ave too. As an isolated teen it's all I had

16 atm.

As an avid fan of both since I was a kid, I don't think these two are really at odds with each other.

Unfortunately it’s just harder to be a Star Wars fan since Disney bought it.

Paramount is trying very hard to create the same difficulty to love Star Trek with their Section 31 movie.

As opposed to the easy time to be a fan, like during the "Meesa propose..." speech.

Disney ruined it.

I’m more a The Expanse type of person

So say we all! Oh wait, that's a different one too...

Touché! I would argue 'Gate has better representation on Lemmy than 'Wars. "Would you not agree, Daniel Jackson?" /Teal'c

Probably not big enough fan base as it's quite niche, only ever was on Syfy and usually on cable. Trek and wars had more lore and cinema.

At this point I'd believe AGI already exists and "AI Slop" is just a psy-opp.

Like how do people reconcile recognizing how AI is negatively effecting society but denying that it could get exponentially more harmful?

AI-agents (not AGI) will change cyberwarfare like nuclear weapons changed convetional warfare.

Meanwhile true AGI almost certainly presents an existential threat to humanity. If for no other reason than our own laziness.

I think it's both. Some people dislike all AI because of generative AI like LLM's, but many people seem to care about making the distinction between generative AI and traditional ML.

Are people anti non-generative AI? Or is broader AI just getting dragged in to the justified anti genAI sentiment?

I formed this question to myself and was about to post it, but then I remembered Lemmy also hates self-driving cars which are likely Convolutional Neural Networks (CNN) or Recurrent Nerual Networks (RNN) which are not part of Generative AI at all.

Nobody* is talking about machine learning when they say “AI” these days. They mean LLMs and generative AI and especially the way it is being forced into everything and destroying the environment to do so.

* not literally; there is certainly at least one person out there who objects to machine learning, deep learning, or whatever you want to call it. However this is not the general sentiment.

I think the biggest issues Lemmy has with it, which are valid, boil down to environmental impact, AI being used to replace working class people instead of making their lives better, and the way it’s being used to erase art as a part of human culture. If those three things weren’t an issue I’d be less wary of AI.

Anti ai nowadays almost exclusively means the over insertion of llms into ordinary life and/or the over trust of a blackbox computer program. People aren’t throwing hands because of alphafold as much as they are a prime minister using a language model to make policy decisions

Biases are indeed usually uninformed and ridiculous.

No, we're left, please pay attention 🙃

correct, but I hope you(or anyone else) deeply reflected on limitations of your ideology

Nah, you are speaking sense. I think Lemmy was really pitched as a Reddit alternative (or at least that was my experience)and it makes sense that the first flood of people who got excited about that are people who miss how Reddit used to feel.

I'm on .world, and I'd happily throw all the billionaires into an industrial shredder.

This brings up another facet: when it comes to ideological biases it's all subjective.

I consider lemmy.world slightly left of center overall, but again with important caveats that some communities within it are pretty left wing and some are pretty right wing. But maybe to someone pretty far on the left of the political spectrum the instance seems very right wing, while to someone pretty far to the right it seems like almost everyone are 'rabid pinko commies'.

Basically, things are more complicated than they may look.

I've been on .world for over a year now and haven't really seen anything I'd call blatantly right-wing. But if this is right wing and the rest of lemmy is even more leftist, I'll gladly join the rest of yas elsewhere.

We certainly do have our fair share of Zionist scumbags.

I wouldn't put it that far, they are closer to reddit

They still put out title after title of quality games.

Me doubt