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[–] 150 points 1 year ago (21 children)

You can save so much money with CAD if you neither factor in your time to actually learn it or the cost of the printer itself.

Makes crime even better in comparison.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The saving on the knob alone would pay a reasonable chunk of a basic but useful printer. Use it for a few more things and you'll be in the black even ignoring the more fun things you might do. The time it takes to learn a CAD system can also be fun if you enjoy that sort of thing.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I'm proof. My first printer is currently worth like $25. Maker Select V2. Still works great. I learned FreeCAD and enjoyed every minute.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As someone who replaced his Maker Select Plus with a Bambu Lab P1S a few months ago…if you do get a new printer, be prepared to be angry for a moment.

    I spent so much time and effort improving that thing over the years, and the modern printer was so much better right out of the box. 😅

    (Not that I don’t still have a fond place in my heart for my old bedslinger. A friend has it now, so it’s still chugging along.)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Haha yea I did, actually. A few months ago I built a Voron 0.2. It's soooo much better in every way. But the MS2 is still capable, especially with upgrsdes (just not with ABS). I decided against the Bamboo route because I loved the FOSS nature of the MS2, and building the Voron brought back those 'first time building a PC vibes'. It was a great experience.

    I've got a Sovol Max on order, so the MK2 will probably also be donated to a friend this year.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nice! I’ve considered a Voron, but I wasn’t sure I wanted to dedicate that much time to the printer as opposed to the printing. (I feel like I got my fill of excessive tinkering already 😅)

    But the closed nature of Bambu does bother me, I’ll admit.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yea, I was told I "have a 3D printer hobby, not a 3D printing hobby". 😆

    I loved building the Voron, but did decide to go with a Sovol instead for the larger machine to both avoid the build and have a larger volume.

    The 0.2 was great because it was cheap, didn't need to be my main printer at the time so I could be patient with it, and it is blazingly fast, especially heat up time since the bed is so small.

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  • [+] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I would just like to say that 70k people isn't a small town. I live in a town with 9k people in it. Now that's a small town.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    9k? That's a major city. I lived and worked in an area where the 9k town about an hour away was the bee's knees for the folks where I was, which had a great!!! city of 2,500, and the rest were unincorporated places of a hundred or so at the crossroads.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    There are places which will print out your model for a small fee on their own printer. There are even places which will allow you to use their printer if you come with your own filament (for example makerspaces) and maybe donate a little bit to support them.

    As for CAD itself, there's a nonzero chance that someone already designed that part for themselves and you can download a ready model. If not, then by designing it yourself you're acquiring a skill that can be useful again in the future and you can share that model with others to get that warm fuzzy feeling that you've helped strangers who had the same problem.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Someone else I know got a printer and got bored printing with it after a bit and said I can print on it whenever if I toss them a roll of material every now and then.

    I ended up finding all kinds of useful things to print. I made a connection piece for a sink that had a garbage disposal removed when I couldn't find the fitting anywhere and after 3 years it's holding up fine. I made a set of cams for a washer that randomly stopped spinning one day and those have been working nicely. Just a bunch of times it ended up coming in handy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Learning a new and useful skill is not "wasting" time at all.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can't put that in quotation marks like I ever said something about wasting time. You just have to include all that time in your cost calculation.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    I'd like to take this opportunity to say sorry to all the people that ended up buying the WD-40s I stole the straw off of.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Oh, are we confessing to minor thefts? Let's see, what's beyond 7 years old...

    A Hogwarts robe clip from a Halloween costume

    $12 in expired powerbars

    About $200 in assorted mediocre liquor from some wedding

    4 posters from bus stops for the Scooby-Doo movie

    A 1999 Ford Explorer

    7 Playboys and a bag of old coins

    97 million kisses from my missus

    (Edit: the largest thefts are the kisses)

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  • I used to shoplift handheld electronic games, stuff like Electronic Quarterback by Coleco. I was a paper boy and I would walk into stores with my bag around my shoulder and just grab games off the counter and slip them in the bag. What blows my mind now is that this was even possible - this was the late 1970s and apparently I was something of an innovator because the stores never suspected anything or searched kids, and the electronic games were just sitting out on counters. It wasn't long after this that stores started only allowing two kids into the store at a time and shit like that, and searching them when they left.

    You're welcome, subsequent generations of would-be shoplifters! You'll never know just how fucking easy we had it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I once ate the baby carrots from the grocery store, right off the display. I am not sorry about it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don't think there's anything in that story to be sorry about.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    There is, you need to wash vegetables before you eat them

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I'm pretty sure baby carrots are prewashed.

    Edit: Oh, perhaps you don't know this. In which case, I'd love to be the one to tell you: baby carrots are just cut up regular carrots.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Even if they're prewashed, they're lying in a crowded supermarket on display all day. You don't know who touched them and who sneezed on them, but you can know for a fact, someone did, and most people don't wash hands.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I did a similar thing, not because my knob broke though, I just didn't like the heiroglyphics bosch designed 😅 20241215_164503

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    From a cost-savings perspective it's actually kind of genius, cause now they don't have to localize the text for multiple countries. Just produce one stove, throw a °C/°F setting on the display for the Americans, and profit.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Both are appropriate responses to the bullshit that is oven knobs.

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  • [–] 80 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I learned this from my dad... When I was young, we had a plumbing leak on a Sunday night, p-trap was leaking. All places were closed, so he went to a McDonald's bathroom and stole theirs to replace ours.

    20 something years later, my faucet was leaking. It was a discontinued model from a brand owned by home Depot, though they still had the display model up. Remembering what my pa did, I took the display model apart and took what I needed.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    From this story alone I have several ideas of what your accent is, also this is the type of shit my kin would pull. I'm more of a "how many parts can I daisy chain while maintaining no leakage, my record is 12 which was the minimum needed. I hope an actual plumber never looks at my bathtub plumbing cause the faucet is certainly doing things much like my computers cable management.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I am interested in what you assume me accent be, though I'll give ya some hints and you tell me where I'm from...

    My wife teases my pronunciation of butter and water as they come out as "budder" and "wooder", house roofs as "woofs", and I call water creeks "cricks". She also laughs at me when I get angry \ passionate as I become louder and sound like "one of those Italian gangsters from the old bugs Bunny cartoons". And she'll repeat back to me, exaggerated, "whaddya talkin about?!" as I seem to ask her that before every debate...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well initially I was gonna guess North Eastern Coastal, or perhaps some of the less known accents from Western Appalachia but I've known folks from around Bakersfield who pronounced water, butter, and creeks like ya so I ain't got no fucken clue. It's one of those things where its got overlaps with but not totality with accents I do know, even my own accent does the budder thing. But now I ain't so certain.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Philadelphia! Very astute, my friend. Where are you yourself?

    I somewhat thought that getting an education, working white collar, social media, and living in Europe the last 6 years that I would have of lost my accent. Hence why I found your comment so interesting!

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  • SoCal more specifically Inland Empire San Bernardino foothills.

    Also your accent stay with you hell it can even stay with your kin depending on various factors. My accent is basically just an old regional accent but if I get pissy enough it rapidly devolves into a bastardized brogue. But yeah I find dialects and accents interesting especially in how they mutate diverge and reconverge.

    Also if you are at all curious I pronounce it budder, wader, and rooves.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Why are people breaking/losing knobs on their ranges in the first place? I’ve never done that in 4 decades. Seems like an extremely unlikely thing to do.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would have said the same thing but the enshitification isn't just for the web anymore - I had a 'quality' name brand refrigerator and snapped the drawer down the front because I pulled on it a little too hard. Those things used to be bulletproof but now they're flimsy crap.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I was thinking the same thing? Who are these animals that somehow destroy a metal knob on a commercial-style $8000 Bosch oven that is made of stainless steel?!

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    My only guess is that they have children who steal the knobs and flush them down the toilet or something. But the knobs on those high end models are pretty huge which means they would probably get stuck and refuse to flush down.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    People with toddlers often keep the knobs off as a form of baby proofing, when the kiddos are tall enough to reach but not old enough to listen. It's then easy to lose a knob that isn't in the right place.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I completely forgot until now that my daughter used to steal the knob from our dishwasher on a near daily basis. I remember confiscating it one morning and accidentally bringing it to work in my pocket.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yep. They also sell childproof knob covers for them, you have to pop open the lid to reach them.

    I'm embarrassed it took a few times of the toddlers walking off with the knobs inside the covers before we realized we could just... not leave the knobs on. I blame the fact that they never slept more than 90 minutes at a time...

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Enshittification is probably a large part. However, I can see it.

    Our's are plastic, 25 years old, and look like crap. Wash them all you want, they just look dirty all the time. I'd replace them except for the absurd cost for a piece of molded ABS.

    I take them off to wash them. I can imagine someone having an accident with one, like washing them in dishwasher and having one fall down onto a heating element. Those are big, but our's are small enough to get knocked down onto the garbage disposal - it would't be easy, and would require an unusual sequence is events, but I've fucked up even more unlikely sequences of events in my life.

    I really wish I could get decent aluminum replacements for our's; it wouldn't make the range any newer, but it'd make it look nicer than the black plastic shit that it came with.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Ours is a cheap model, but the knobs are held on with a plastic housing inside the knob similar to that middle plastic tube that holds keycaps center on keyboards. Im constantly worried its going to break when i take them off to clean.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can accidentally hit a knob and break it while moving the appliance itself. As for losing them, sometimes you knock one loose and it rolls under the fridge, and it's not worth the effort of moving a large appliance out of its nook just to get the knob back. Shit happens.

    Maybe you were just a miracle child who never has accidents. Who knows?

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    While I don't do it myself, I don't consider stealing from big name stores theft and am, actually, completely morally fine with it. Will not report somebody stealing even if I see them.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Let's not forget the rampant wage theft across the entirety of the US, much less the ongoing grift they're pulling on its citizens re: "shoplifting", etc. being the big scary Evil — when wage theft stats completely destroy the charts in comparison to all other commercial/consumer theft, including misappropriation by employees! 😡

    TL;DR: Stealing from big corps isn't theft. It's a civic duty, at this point.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    theres was a weird scratch on the shower box when i bought it from obi. turns out somebody stole the drain cover cause their box had none...so i went back and stole a new cover from a new box. this is probably a domino effect.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Knob from your crush? Priceless.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I like this because then the display is broken in the same way it will actually break when someone buys it. It's like warning others of the issue. It's really a public service when you think about it lol

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Maybe that's what happened to the original knob. Years ago someone bought a stove and the knob broke so they stole their neighbours as a replacement, thus starting a tit for tat, reciprocal crime wave that swept the nation.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    My secret trick?

    I've been using the same stove for a quarter of a century. Was here when I moved in.

    The trick is: the knobs don't come off. (In the extremely unlikely chance they might come off, I, like, just put 'em back in. I guess. Not that it happens!)

    Looks like they don't build them like they used to!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    They do build them like they used to.

    But if your devices had broken down in the past like all the other devices from that time, you wouldn't be telling this story. Classic survivorship bias.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm so glad I learned THEFT

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Had to read like 50 comments and nobody pointed out you can just buy a generic knob for like $1. Hell your used building center would be 50 cents. WTF world do we live in where the solution is CAD and 3D printing for something so trivial. It's like using a nuclear bomb to kill an ant nest.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Once you have the printer and the knowhow, it takes like 5 minutes to draw and 20 minutes to print at a cost of like 0.10 €

    It takes longer to go to a location and buy it at a much higher cost. So why should you?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Its also something you built with your hands and brain. There are few things which feel as good.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Oh yes! The correct answer is to 3D print a plastic knob for the front of an oven. There's not going to be any heat issues there! And no one can deny how beautiful that black knob looks next to the brushed metal.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There is no single correct answer. There often isn't, in fact.

    As for heat: You can treat PLA to be more resistive to temperature and even at stock, untreated, cheapest PLA wont just deform from hot air escaping since the thing melts at 190 and the air wont be that hot for long enough. It may deform with regular use though. You also don't have to use PLA and use something more temp resistive.

    Beauty? Eye of the beholder. Its a conversation piece. Its something you point at and say "I made that". Its wabi-sabi, I like it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The knobs on your oven are overwhelmingly likely to be either completely made of plastic or contain a large percentage of plastic already. Typically they're made of ABS or PBT.

    PLA probably isn't a good choice for this application but you could absolutely print some knobs in ABS or ASA and you'd be fine. You can even get PBT filament, but that's probably more hassle than it's worth and ABS is cheaper.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    LG wants me to pay $45 for a single official replacement.

    Amazon has a whole set for $14.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    With free returns and having a size difference in my feet I may (or may not) order 2 different sizes of the same shoe and end up returning one.

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  • I recently re-did my kitchen floor with 1' square peel-and-stick vinyl tiles. After buying four boxes (30 tiles each at $45 a pop), I ended up exactly one tile short. I was sorely tempted to go back to Home Despot and slip one tile out of a box - obviously people do this a lot there since there are always open boxes in the tile section. In the end I just pieced the last tile out of scrap bits, in a spot where it really wasn't obvious. I don't need a fucking shoplifting charge at this stage of my life.

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