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[–] 106 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ignoring the gigantic needle piercing its body, that pressure relief must feel amazing

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It feels barely nothing for cows. A typical "syringe" for them looks like a freaking gun

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago

    Oh, neat! Message received: if I eat enough beans, I can be my own creme brulee torch!

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wow, that would explain the mutilated cows that people think are aliens. Like lightning striking an explosive cow and boom ground beef.

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Doesn't take a lightning strike. A cow dead for long enough may explode due to gas buildup. Conspiracy people gonna conspiracy tho

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Specifically, it occurs when the cows eat high volumes of clover or other nitrogen fixing plants (most legumes fall in to this category). Ruminants produce a lot of gas in their digestive process, because their stomachs are designed to ferment their food, allowing them to better access highly fibrous food sources like grass. Normally, they belch or fart the gas away, but in the case of nitrogen fixing clovers, they produce too much gas to be able to burp and fart away, and they end up with fatal bloating!

    I remember learning this in school in rural Australia. The most amazing thing is that I still remember it :P

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Stupid question, but could a similar thing happen to a human? I don’t belch/burp, and I can get insanely bloated. I should probably see a doctor to see if this is normal or if there’s a treatment, but it’s kind of embarrassing!

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It might be a rare condition called RCPD where a muscle in your esophagus is too strong. The treatments are a shot of Botox to weaken the muscle, or getting it cut a little bit if Botox doesn't work.

    I have issues with it intermittently.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    no such thing as embarrassing when dealing with medical problems, they've seen and heard everything and medical staff that at all makes you feel bad are incompetent and should get another job.

    Any good medical worker is there to make you feel better, and will actively appreciate blunt honesty because it makes everything so much easier and treatments more effective.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    But wouldn't nitrogen lead to ammonia? Methane is ch4, with no nitrogen? Or does nitrogen fixing vegetation somehow induce other digestion paths?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    yeah I think the extra ammonia and hydrogen gas emitted from the nitrogen fixation process fucks with the regular breakdown of sugars to make more CH4 instead of CO2.

    The products of the nitrogen fixation make the environment inside the stomach less aerobic so you end up with the anaerobic breakdown of sugars.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    Lmao they literally flare off the cow??

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    That cow is very slightly rocket powered.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I know I might get shit for this, but I thought I would share it anyways because you asked.

    Ultimate Requirement for Ballistic Bovine

    1. Methane Production: ~2 kg/s sustained (400x natural rate).
    2. LOX Supply: 10 kg/s (requiring cryogenic tanker trucks).
    3. Thrust: > 7,000 N (per cow-nozzle).
    4. Structural Integrity: Cow reinforced with carbon nanotubes (to avoid rapid unplanned disassembly at ignition).
    5. Ignition System: Tesla Coil Spark Plug implanted in the rumen.
    6. Trajectory: Vertical launch pad (avoiding trees, barns, UFOs).

    Final Verdict:
    Technically possible if you:

    • Treat the cow as a meat-based fuselage.
    • Ignore ethics, biology, physics, and local fire codes.
    • Have a NASA-sized budget and a death wish.

    Outcome:

    • Success? A charred cow fragment reaches low Earth orbit.
    • Failure? A crater smelling of burnt hair and rocket fuel.
    • Better Use: Flare the methane. It's cheaper, safer, and the cow lives.

    Disclaimer: No cows were harmed in this thought experiment. Please do not weaponize livestock. 🚀🐄🔥

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Achieving Ballistic Velocity (The Tsiolkovsky Cow Equation)

    The **Rocket Equation** is brutal:  

    `Δv = Isp * g₀ * ln(m₀ / m_f)`  

    Where:  

    * `Δv` = Change in velocity needed (`11,186 m/s` for escape).  

    * `Isp` = Specific impulse (`~360 s` for CH4/LOX).  

    * `g₀` = Gravity (`9.81 m/s²`).  

    * `m₀` = Initial mass (cow + engines + LOX + methane).  

    * `m_f` = Final mass (just... cooked cow?).

    **Assumptions:**  

    *   Engine mass: `300 kg` (mini-Raptor).  

    *   LOX mass: **5x** methane mass (rocket ratio).  

    *   Methane stored: `500 kg` (we're pumping hard).  

    *   `m₀ = 700 (cow) + 300 (engine) + 500 (CH₄) + 2,500 (LOX) = 4,000 kg`.  

    *   `m_f = 700 kg` (cow, assuming engines/tanks detach).  

    **Calculation:**  

    `Δv = 360 * 9.81 * ln(4,000 / 700)`  

    `= 3,531.6 * ln(5.71)`  

    `= 3,531.6 * 1.74`  

    `= ~6,150 m/s`.  

    **Result:** **6,150 m/s < 11,186 m/s**.  

    → **Verdict:** Suborbital cow. Maximum apogee: **~1,000 km** (a very high moo).  

    → **Impact Velocity:** **~3-4 km/s** (kinetic energy = 0.5 * 700kg * (3,500m/s)^2 ≈ **4.3 gigajoules**).  

    → **Effect:** Creates a **10m wide crater**, vaporizing the cow and any nearby farmers. A true "pasture bomb."

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    So its... kinda like a tracheotomy, but for your gut, so... gastrotomy?

    Ah, 'gastrostomy'.

    A medically necessary, emergency fart valve.

    Amazing.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracentesis

    Do you mean this?

    Either way, TIL!

    Though, if I am understanding this right, paracentesis typically is targetted at... some kind of fluid build up basically outside of the actual gastrointestinal tract, in the paracenteal cavity, the space between your abdominal muscles and organs...

    ... the procedure does seem to outwardly more resemble this cow fart valve in appearence, but it doesn't actually directly pierce, go into the intenstine directly.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    You just know there's some old vet that systematically lights up his cig on this every time he does it, all casual

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Gee I somehow thought somebody shot a lil jet propelled blow dart lol

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    thats a nice clean blue flame, looks like a burner on a gas stove

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Since it comes out my butt, is it MEthane or BUTTane?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Cutting out the middle man to light your farts on fire.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I appreciated the TIL by itself, but the video added a whole new dimension of "definitely, this is not what I was imagining".

    Thank you!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Won't it get really hot after a while?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I ate so much I feel like I need this fr

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    That cow takes one wrong breath and its over for both the cow and the torch guy. But that's just a worst case possibility. I'll wait for the video.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Hey Angus, why is Hettie on fire?

    Oh she just walked past Bessie.

    Best to give Bessie a wide birth ey Angus.

    That's right Maggie, when you see Bessie coming you better MOOOOOOve over.

    Oh nice one Angus.

    Thanks maggs that's why they call me the cow-median.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You can also put a hose down it's throat.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I only ever seen plastic pipes used

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Imagine thinking this is a good solution to horribly mis-feeding animals.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sometimes animals escape their enclosures and mis-feed themselves. The couple times I've witnessed this were the result of cows helping themselves to a field of alfalfa. Alfalfa is good as a component of a silage mix but is too rich to be consumed fresh on its own. But cows love alfalfa and are good at finding weaknesses in fencing.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    what makes you think this is due to misfeeding?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

    Because it's very common to feed cows subsidized grains instead of letting them graze on grasses. Definitely the kind of thing that would create too much methane during digestion. Corn especially has way more sugars than the grasses they're supposed to eat.

    Edit: It appears it's not necessarily grain but does have to do with the quality of their feed.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Everything I’ve read has said the opposite, but I’m no farmer.

    I see lots of studies saying the grass and hay fed cattle produce more methane from the animals. Diets with high insoluble fiber are diets that create more methane. That said, grain production uses more CO2 than hay or pasture land.

    Best thing is low fiber greenery, but that shit is expensive, and industrial farming goes with grass or grain.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Yeah, it's the quality of the feed, not necessarily it being grain. I had added an edit but you probably were commenting before that.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don't get why people have these kind of arguments without providing sources. It makes you both look argumentative and not very trustworthy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was conjecture and then a discussion. There was no argument happening. Sometimes it's fun to just have a discussion and use that to get to the truth.

    If you're curious here's a starting point. https://www.journalofdairyscience.org/article/S0022-0302(25)00595-8/fulltext

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Right, but how do you know who is talking from knowledge, and who isn't?

    Anyway, thanks for the reference, now I know :)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Because I used their arguments to dig deeper into real sources. Yeah it was kind of lazy to not post mine throughout, but it was just seat of my pants. Like I said it started as pure conjecture based on my existing knowledge of cows digestion and the process of fermentation. I was wrong but also partially right in my assumptions.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    this is post hoc ergo propter hoc. you haven't shown causation

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You've probably heard at some point in your life that cows have 4 stomachs (or a 4-chambered stomach)

    The purpose for that is because in their natural environment cows eat grass (not that there's really "natural" cows anymore, the aurochs is long-extinct, but other ruminants like bison are similar)

    Grass is kind of a shitty food source for most animals, it has very little sugar and starch that your body can use for energy.

    But it is full of fiber. Most animals can't really digest fiber very well, but ruminants with those extra stomachs and the help of some bacterial fermentation can. Grass and such basically gets churned around in those extra stomach chambers with some bacteria to ferment and break down into something the cows can actually use for energy.

    Fermentation, of course, creates gases like CO2 which is why beer is fizzy and bread rises.

    And while that bacteria can and will ferment fiber, it will ferment sugars and starches even better.

    So grains like corn end up creating more gases than if they were eating grass.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    that sounds like it's just a natural, common problem cows have. good thing they are under our care, or bloat would be fatal.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Naturally, cows wouldn't have access to a limitless supply of corn that has been selectively cultivated over the years to have higher sugar and starch content. They don't tend to have this issue when they're eating primarily grass and can easily release it on their own by burping.

    There would surely be some odd cases here and there of cows getting bloated on a less grain-heavy diet, but not nearly as common

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    corn isn't supernatural, and if humans disappeared today they would still have access to it

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yes, but they wouldn't have access to it in the first place if humans hadn't existed, since corn is a new world plant, and the aurochs that domestic cattle descended from were from Eurasia.

    And corn as we know it today is very much the product of thousands of years of agriculture. The wild teosinte plants that corn descends from didn't have the big ears of sweet starchy kernels we know as corn today, it looked a lot more like grass that hasn't been mowed in a long time that's starting to go to seed, except scaled up a bit. If you look up pictures of "Zea diploperennis" or "Zea perennis that's more like what natural corn looked like before humans started fucking with it.

    And even if wild cows had access to wild corn, which they didn't, they probably would have been chowing down on the whole plant, so mostly fiber with a bit of starch and sugar from comparatively few and small seeds, instead of just all corn kernels.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Imagine cooking a hamburger using that torch.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    the way we treat animals is fucking horrifying.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Helping it not die from internal gas build up is horrifying? That sounds like an awful way to go.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I suspect they mean that their force fed diet that's causing an excess of methane buildup on the regular is the issue, not so much the pressure valve release situation happening in this video.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Theyre typically fed corn because it is cheaper, easy to store and transport and it makes beef taste "better". Cows are supposed to eat grass, not corn.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    From what I've heard from farmers, the really good beef is grass fed and then corn/grain finished. So the animal eats grass most of their life, and then for a little while before slaughter they are fed corn to build up their fat content.

    Could be wrong, but I've had multiple people who raised cows tell me this diet plan.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Pedant here: corn is a grass. Modified by centuries of selective breeding, and not endemic to the region where the aurochs were domesticated.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Corn is a grass, but you are typically feeding them the grain of the grass rather than the stalks and leaves which they should be eating.

    Normally grass grains aren't the majority diet of cows, it's the leaves.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Corn is grass the same way sugar is grass or bread is grass.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    This is exactly how we used to treat a collapsed lung in humans, sometimes still do. Been there, would rather have been poked with that method than the giant tube up my side to the top of my lung.

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