This gen gave me the kick to leave consoles. Neither Sony or Nintendo seem that interested with me being a customer, constant paywalls and upsells while getting less and less in return. I'll get the next 8-10 years of games through the ps5 after that I imagine everything will be on pc. VR is not my thing, neither is online or live service so I can get all the emulators without a monthly cost.

Consoles are dead.

Same. At least for me part of the problem is that I got a PS5 two years after release because I couldn't get one, I'm not going to pay scalpers.

That’s because there are barely any fucking games this gen it feels like

Become a PC gamer and you don't experience "generations" anymore.

Part of the "problem" is that the current gen launched basically at the height of COVID. People were distracted when it came out and studios took a huge productivity hit at a time when they would be pushing to get those games out.

But it is coming up on 5 years and console generations tend to be 6-8 years if memory serves. Considering how much work goes into prepping the hardware, it makes sense to see "leaks" now for what will likely hit shelves in the fall of 2027 or 2028.

But I think the bigger issue is that we kind of all know these are "just" computers and most games are multiplatform. Combine that with backwards compatibility and there really aren't that many distinguishing games of a generation. Which is why it is a common refrain that this is probably the last "console generation" with the future being closer to PCs where you just have new hardware every few years and upgrade when a game you want needs it or you get bored.

Many still play on Playstation 4 and suprising amount of games still get released for both.

Its also funny that in Fighting game locals most games are still played on PS4 with Tekken 8 being pretty much the only one requiring PS5.

The handheld PC and things like SteamOS have crossed the moat that console games used to have as a defense. The PC is coming to the living room, attaching to your TV, and playing games controller-first. The question will be how well will those games play and will they be exclusive.

The other defense, exclusive games, consoles themselves have given up. PlayStation has been publishing to PC to make up revenues thinking that it’s safe because it’s not their competitor Xbox, and Xbox bet on gamepass (and has now lost the console almost entirely, hoping to make its money back via Windows licensure).

The Vita had a shared library system where if you get the handheld version for free if you owned the PS4 version of games. I imagine they could do something similar to keep playstation users interested

Astro is the only one I desperately want as a PC gamer. Three cheers for Astro!

Improved ray tracing is key. We're at a point where hardware improvements aren't for selling games to end users, they're for cutting costs for developers. Project managers don't want to spend time and resources handcrafting lighting anymore.

We saw it before where making SSDs baseline didn't necessarily always lead to a change in world design but certainly led to cuts in asset streaming optimization. Same with framerates.

Ps5 has the same amount of games as switch 2

Playstation 5 has plenty of good games but only handful of exclusives. Many of these games are also available for PS4 and PC as well.

I’m still rolling with a PS4 Pro my buddy gave me when he popped for a PS5. Honestly not feeling like I’m missing out.

It is, however, also fair to point out that I have also built and maintained a Gaming Machine of Theseus for many, many years.

I got a PS5 so I could play Demons Souls Remaster, when that game launched.

I haven't touched the console since I beat the game. It has been sitting collecting dust for years, just like my Nintendo Switch did before I sold it.

Sorta unrelated, but this generation of consoles feels like the death knell at least for me.

I bought an Xbox Series X right as it came out as I had with pretty much every MS console since I was a kid. I was just the right age and all my friends were obsessed with Halo and Fable. I played it quite a bit the first 2 or 3 years I had it, but now it just collects dust.

Ironically it’s Microsoft’s decisions with Windows that pushed me to abandon ship. I hated using Windows since 8 came out and started using Linux a lot more. Which lead me to Steam and Proton of course. And now that’s the only way I really play games these days.

Triple A gaming feels pretty much dead to me too. I basically only play the same few strategy games and the occasional RPG and that’s all I really need anymore.

Maybe I’m just getting older and it’s irrelevant to what’s going on with the rest of the industry. Just wanted to share my experience because it blows my mind they’re already talking about the next generation of consoles. The Series X and PS5 still feel brand new to me. Did either of them even have a single killer app? It’s felt very underwhelming and I’d be okay if they waited until 2028 or so to be honest.

I told my wife to not buy me a ps5, since I didn’t see any games I wanted. She did so anyway. I have yet to buy a single ps5 game, still working through all the ps4 stuff. I’ll buy a handle of ps5 games when ps6 is probably out. I’ve told her to NOT buy me a ps6 in the future, but she’ll probably ignore that as well.

Possible, but I think that particular feature is more aimed at EU electrical prices.