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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

....so south bend chnged since i left...

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Why are dems endlessly talking about what messaging they should do? Build a fucking messaging apparatus like Fox News and do it. We shouldn’t even hear about the strategizing, we should just hear the drum beat.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Why are dems endlessly talking about what messaging they should do?

    Because it's all about the optics. They don't actually do any of those things, they just want people to think they are.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I get where you're coming from with this, but I'm not convinced that fighting fire with fire is a viable solution here. We need to put some bite back into journalistic integrity laws, not just create an opposing misinformation machine.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    You make a good point. But the issue here is that, the leaders should be leading and not just talking about what leaders should do.

    They always seem to get lost in their own noise.

    Voices like Bernie, AOC, et al. will often start taking real action and garner positive national attention, but it regularly falls apart because the party as a whole seems uninterested in falling into line.

    Nobody is supporting their good ideas because they keep waiting to get together on their perfect ideas, but spoiler that basically never happens. (They can be barely effective if they control the presidency and Congress, with Congress aligning to the president's agenda, but without that perfect environment they are effectively ineffective.)

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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The gay former transportation secretary

    What on earth does his sexuality have to do with this topic? Why bother mentioning it?

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  • [–] [S] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Advocate focuses on the LGBT community.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I get it, it's still jarring though. I get that an LGBTQI+ mag would want to promote his sexuality to prove visibility of senior civil servants or G-men or whatever the US calls them, but it just feels like a qualifier that shouldn't be necessary.

    Happy to learn otherwise though, I'm open to opinions.

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago

    Trump rapes children.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Prosecuting pedophiles would help. Make "holy people" mandatory reporters just as therapists and teachers are.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I hate the term "mandatory reporter". Like, that should be obvious. If a kid confides in you and you don't tell someone, you're just as guilty. You're basically an accomplice or co-conspirator at that point.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    What if the kid specifically tells you because they think it's confidential and the thing they are seeking is counseling? Reporting wasn't made mandatory for social workers and counselors because they were thinking about the desires of the rapist, it's because they wanted kids to have someone they could trust.

    Priests I'm not so sure, as the perpetrator is likely a member of their club.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    We didn't know about cointelpro and other clandestine operations until civilians broke into the FBI office and stole files. We won't see the Epstein list unless something similar happens.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    If they combine that with improving the lives of the working class, sure. Else gtfo

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Did Trump have issues with his bone spurs when he was raping 12 year old girls, or did the bone spurs only cause an issue when we was shitting his pants to afraid to fight for his country because he’s a cowardly pile of shit?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Never forget Buttigieg is a McKinsey guy. His folksy Howdy Doody shit is an act. He is not on the side of the people.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    During a speech in 2019, Pete Buttigieg, then a presidential candidate, stated that he would have taken a pill to make him straight if it had been available when he was younger

    He said this with his husband and newly adopted son in the audience.

    Dude is just another Andrew Cuomo / Gavin Newsom waiting to happen.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean I think trying to say that him saying that is shitty is kinda disingenuous. The guy was born in 1982, grew up in South Bend, Indiana, and probably realized he was gay during the 90s, a time that we, the LGBT community, were still reeling from and dealing with the AIDS crisis. I have no doubt a ton of queer kids back then thought the same as him because they just wanted to be normal and not thought of as monsters.

    Plus his parents worked at Notre Dame, a Catholic university. So he was probably around a whole lot of not very accepting Catholics during his childhood.

    What the point of that story was at the time was that he had to accept who he was, and that it was okay to be gay. That's a thing a lot of queer people have to go through.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. Matthew Shepard was murdered when he was 15 or 16. There's a reason "Pride" is named "Pride", and it's not because pride and acceptance is the default state for homosexual youths.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Exactly. He doesn't "believe" anything per se. He's a cypher. Believes are fungible; having a belief is a transaction for him.

    It's the fundamental difference between authentic politicians who have a belief and then seek the power to make that belief a reality, versus wanting power and then adopting whatever beliefs it takes to get you there.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, my distaste for Buttigieg stemmed not from him being a centrist, but because he doesn't seem to stand for anything. Like Harris he started the primary in a vague progressive lane and then realized that he wasn't going to complete with Bernie or Warren and decided Biden was weak in the moderate path and shifted there. If there was a communist revolution, Pete would speak the theory and throw his hat into the ring for Chairman.

    He's the epitomy of the view that politics is mostly about finely crafting a message and winning the spin game, not policy or action. He may even be right, but I don't trust him to be anything more than a spokesman.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, gay men from more prosperous backgrounds have some fucked up coping skills, they get worse as they rise in the world.

    It’s more about class sickness than anything about being gay. Being a sexual minority fucks you up in any scenario, it’s just how the fucked upedness plays out at that level.

    As a good old fashioned working class male homo who can pass as prosperous due to education and natural perspicuity, I have broad experience seeing how class fucks up gay men specifically.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Being a sexual minority fucks you up in any scenario, it’s just how the fucked upedness plays out at that level.

    In my experience, the gay community (at least - the gay male community in Houston that I'm familiar with) is this incredibly tight knit and supportive group of sincere and loving people. The adversity brought this minority group together and bound them into a network of mutual aid and compassion for one another that's so far removed from anything I see among straight peers.

    As a good old fashioned working class male homo who can pass as prosperous due to education and natural perspicuity, I have broad experience seeing how class fucks up gay men specifically.

    It's one more wedge issue used by the ruling class to divide and conquer.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    My brother and his husband, both openly gay, stated to me just the other day that in their youth they prayed they were not gay and even shamed themselves for having homoerotic thoughts. What Pete is saying here probably reflects the way a large part of the LGBTQ+ community has felt as they came to grips with the way they feel and identify in contrast to societal expectations.

    I don’t see how this somehow makes the guy a bad politician. If anything it shows he is human and normal.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My brother and his husband, both openly gay, stated to me just the other day that in their youth they prayed they were not gay and even shamed themselves for having homoerotic thoughts.

    A public figure saying he's ashamed to be gay during a national debate definitely reinforces the sense of shame and thoughts of self-harm.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Never forget nobody@dbzero once bought items off Amazon. They are not on the side of the people.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    I’d take Buttigieg over Trump, but I wouldn’t support him in the primary. McKinsey is a fucking terrifyingly militantly corporate entity. Buttigieg would have to distance himself from them to a high degree to deserve any trust moving forward as a candidate.

    As an official seeking the release of the Epstein files, I support him and everyone else making the call 100%.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I like Pete and all, but maybe the politicians should stop hoping they should do something and, y'know, just DO something?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    How 'bout you just do something good for people. All this "he's a scumbag" noise is going to get nothing done, and isn't going to win the midterms. Everybody who doesn't already know he's a scumbag is not going to learn it now.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    What specifically would you like Pete Buttigege, former Transportation secretary and former mayor of South Bend Indiana to do?

    As far as I know Pete isn't even employed right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I didn't realize that HN is career had ended.

    Seriously though, if he is up to chrping about Epstein, why not chirp about programs that help people, about restoring democratic institutions so that they help people again. As a former mayor and Transport minister, can he not talk about infra that helps people and describe escape making moralism the basis of his platform.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I bet he bought that headline from the buttigieg 2028 funds he's already started collecting on the sly.

    He's a greedy grasping politician with burning ambition where his ideals should be.

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