Anyone still clinging to the idea that fascism/authoritarianism is "on it's way" rather that "it's here right fucking now" is simply willfully ignorant, so much an asshole as to be entirely irredeemable, lying, not paying attention, or just fucking too stupid.

In other words, the straight, white, right-kind-of-Christian, fascist base.

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I wish more people agreed.

I have a pretty small social circle, but they are all very progressive, very against what is going on right now. Still, I am the only one planning to go to a No Kings protest. I'm the only one who went to the Hands Off protest. It's not encouraging.

They're immediately letting them go on scene, the more disturbing part of this is that they're serving as security details for ICE Nazis.

And Americans don’t have the stomach for the years of passive resistance that will be required.

You're imagining organized people coordinating to work towards long term goals nationwide...

That's not what would happen. People would just progressively lose it and start crashing out. People can still rationalize that compliance might work out best for them for now.

But if they start killing people for resisting despite not knowing who they're even detaining...

That makes it hard to deny that compliance is pointless. And after that it doesn't take much for entire communities to make the jump to proactive defense.

trump's not raiding cartel safehouses, he's going after harmless workers. So that shows everyone that using violence to resist makes them prioritize others. But some of those harmless workers have kids who were born here and are legal citizens. But they're Americans, and Americans are rarely harmless

Hell, look at how gangs took over the projects in Chicago, they'd straight up have snipers 24/7 and if any cops showed up, it didn't take much for the cops to leave. Like, when push comes to shove, trump can't just bomb downtown LA, and occupying America is practically impossible, even for the American military.

Americans don’t have the stomach for the years of passive resistance

Oh, buddy...

We're way past passive...

If there is to be any saving of the remnants of US democracy, much more that "passive" is required.

Passive/complacent is exactly how we got where we are.

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Passive is not getting this done

Where are all the 2A folks who brag nonstop about resisting tyranny?

Funny thing about Qualified Immunity.... It's illegal, and had the 1982 SCOTUS been handed the original wording of the law, they wouldn't have any immunity. The law in question was illegally changed by one dude.

http://web.archive.org/web/20230520080201/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html

Who is downvoting this? Why? Do they disagree that the act was broken? Do they just dislike armed forces being barred from law enforcement?

There's a loophole, and it allows the national guard to do this. From the Wikipedia article:

The Act does not prevent the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor.

Kind of surprised the national guard are not included when all other branches were included during the Biden administration

Yes, but will it be judged legal later by the courts? That is not an academic question and disobeying illegal orders require them to be judged illegal.

The average reservist is not a legal expert but knows things are wacky. They not going to forfeit too much by guessing wrong. Especially when things are mild like this.

Pretty sure a significant part of them are already on their way to do that .... right after they put on their blue uniform and pick up some more rubber shells.

The last thing we want to do is mobilize the gun Community. The 2nd Amendment is ony when the 1st Amendment has failed.

So far the 1st is looking strong. I'm so far left that I own many weapons. I also know that we don't want to give the few psychotic military commanders like this a reason to shoot protesters.

Socialists should all have arms and know how and when to use them. Liberals have constantly pushed people on the left to disarm themselves and made claims that only the right have arms. Very few people on the left will tell liberals they own firearms because they have been told to fear the gun instead of the person wielding the firearm.

I hope we never have to fight a protracted guerrilla war in America. We aren't close to that yet, and I pray I never need to use my arms to protect my family and community. That's where gun owners are.

We are only needed when the military fully takes up arms against the population.