Writing in Nature, the scientists describe how some people with a high BMI were not obese under the new definition and actually had a lower mortality risk than others considered healthy. Reassuringly, 80% to 90% of people with pre-clinical obesity did not progress to clinical obesity, or active disease, in the next 10 years.

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[–] 16 points 20 hours ago

Good news! BMI has always been a limited way of measuring obesity. It's nice to see this advancement.

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  • [–] 11 points 16 hours ago* (5 children)

    Any improvement in diagnosis is certainly to be celebrated, but I was surprised to find out that BMI only wrongly diagnosed obesity less than 3% of the time.

    Seems like it's already much more accurate than it usually gets credit for.

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  • [–] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    Yeah, that's a lot more accurate than conventional wisdom seems to suggest.

    If BMI says you're obese, you only have a 3% chance of not actually being obese? That's a pretty accurate diagnostic.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    I could be wrong but your wording suggests you're misreading that.

    Article states false positive rate is 3% and false negative is 5-9%

    That's obviously not the same as wrong 3% of the time.

    If we assume even tails then 8-12% of the time BMI incorrectly diagnoses.

    Which is about what I'd expect. BMI is an approximate fit model, the further you get from the mean the less useful it is. If you are more than 1 standard deviation from the height mean you are much more likely to get a false positive (if you're short) or false negative (if you're tall).

    In other words it's a line of best fit that doesn't work for outliers

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  • [–] 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

    I was specifically referring to the enormous number of people who claim that they've only been diagnosed as obese due to the inaccuracy of BMI as a measure, not the (even larger) number of people who should be diagnosed as obese but aren't.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago

    I think you're probably conflating obese and 'overweight' in regards to seemingly fit or athletic body types. BMI is still notoriously inaccurate when trying to define regulars at a gym or athletes. It often lables them as overweight due to muscle mass being more dense than body fat. But it's pretty difficult to have that body type and lifestyle but be labeled as obese. For example, at my height I would need to weigh 220lbs to be obese. It's doable considering the 3% figure but unlikly.

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  • [–] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    What about measuring bones? Because mine are probably big and I'm certainly not fat.

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  • [–] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    This is stupid, waist to height ratio has been around for decades, and they're just now saying this?

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  • chuds will look at medical advancements, call it woke, and reject any progress

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago

    Good news for bodybuilders.

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago

    There's the relevant argument. /s I'm not morbidly obese, I'm just obese.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago (1 child)

    So there are even more obese people than we previously thought then? If, yesterday, you were overweight with a belly you are now obese.

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  • [–] -1 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

    You mean the thing testing people to the standards of 19th century peasants might be just a little outdated and inaccurate?

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