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[–] 53 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
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    I love it when I read something incredibly racist but have no idea because the stereotypes and slurs they're using don't even fucking exist anymore.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 hours ago* (3 children)

    I started rereading Catch-22 for the first time in like 20 years (it's so funny), and was a little taken aback to see the n-word in the very first chapter.

    It was, of course, being used in a satirical way that mocked a racist character from Texas. But even then I was like whoa. Came out of nowhere.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 hours ago (15 children)

    No racial slurs in Don Quixote.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

    Nor anything by Victor Hugo to my recollection.

    Sexist tho.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    Interestingly, Don Quixote - very feminist. Cervantes clearly believed women should be able to decide for themselves.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 child)

    Cervantes also handled a fake sequel to Don Quixote better than any author ever has or ever will.

    A fake Part II was released so Cervantes stole part of the plot and includes it in his own Part II which is broadly considered one of the best sequels of all time (to be clear that's almost always included in the modern form of the novel)

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  • [–] 5 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

    Should have seen all the anti-Norwegian bigotry in the first draft of Les Miserables, though 🫣😬

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

    Sorry, I made it up as a joke..

    I haven't read it yet (though the musical based on it is my favorite ever), but I'm pretty confident that there's no mention of Norway or Norwegians in any version of Les Miserables 🤷🏻

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  • [–] 10 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

    no slurs or it uses antiquated slurs we have forgotten about? or slurs we excuse because were common back them?

    I counted 160 "moro" in Don Quixote.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

    "Moro" is still commonly used and not considered a slur. It can be used incorrectly to refer to any muslin person but is not offensive in itself.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    Just because it’s not considered offensive by white Spaniards does not mean it’s not offensive

    https://spanish.stackexchange.com/questions/29187/is-moro-a-racist-term#30243

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    Robinson Crusoe was one of my favorites as a kid. Tried rereading that recently and the whole reason he was ever on a ship that could get wrecked in the first place was he wanted to buy slaves.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago

    "I will weave together a beautiful philosophy that shows that all men are equal and then lazily scribble in why people with dark skin are the exception."

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    My all-time favorite racist author is HP Lovecraft. White American man in New England? Not even close to good enough. He's got to be all that and from the right "stock".

    I get the impression that old HP didn't so much hate as fear the "other". I know, hate and fear are mostly the same thing under the hood, but Henry seemed really frightened of anyone not up to his standards of "decent human being". He seemed to think mankind was going to devolve into degeneracy. Probably comes from the popular notion of eugenics at the time. Seriously weird dude.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    People say that “the hard r” is the most racist version. But real ones know it’s those who end the slur with “–gruh” you should stay very far away from. They’re drawing from the deep racism.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago (2 children)

    “really is just”

    I suppose we’ll be seeing this in social media for the next year or two?

    Can’t wait.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 hours ago

    And it's written in archaic so every sentence is a horrible pain to read.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 hours ago

    Written by a person who obviously has read zero literary classics.

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