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[+] 143 points 1 year ago (25 children)
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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Imagine the scene from her POV. She's claustrophobic and having a meltdown because of all the hums and bangs and then her husband comes running in only to get pulled into the machine she is already stuck inside of. He's screaming and can't get pulled free while she is being pushed even harder into the machine she so desparately wants free from - by her husband who is quickly suffocating to death

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago

    It was a knee MRI. She wasn't stuck inside it, she just wanted her husband to help get her off of the table instead of just the technician.

    Still a horrible scene though, but not quite as horrific as your first imagining.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    While you wrote an interesting narrative, if you read the article the story is nothing like this, and even from her point of view would have been nothing like this.

    She had asked the nurse to call her husband to help her up from the table. She called out his name and he ran in while the machine was still going.

    He was pulled into the machine and was freed eventually but suffered multiple heart attacks after being pulled off the machine. The heart attacks are what killed him in the end in a hospital bed far from the MRI machine. He definitely did not suffocate.

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  • [–] 136 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    It wasnt a necklace...

    It was a literal metal chain, like steel. Not a gold cuban link chain or something with a huge medallion a rapper would wear.

    Apparently this idiot just lived everyday with a 20lb length of chain around his neck for "weight training". The article mentions it was "a topic of discussion" on a prior visit, so it wasn't a one time thing.

    The type of person to do that, is 100% the type of guy to run into an active MRI like he could do anything. Theres no logical thinking going on, and an outright refusal to listen to qualified medical advice. Like, they make weighted vests, at least do that instead of putting all that weight on your neck.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah, there was a guy in my town who would run around with one of these around his neck. Similar type of idiot. He would actually run by the strength training gym and gloat to us that we were wasting our time lol, insisting that all we had to do was run around with a big chain.

    Hearing about this news story now I wonder if some influencer somewhere started a trend. People love feeling like they found “the secret”

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    It has all the Hallmarks...

    Starts with something based in science, but never goes past surface logic and ignores lots of existing and safe options for the most visible and attention grabbing method despite the serious medical flaws from this method.

    Even if you stay away from 1.5 tons magnets, that's going to fuck your posture up before it translates to muscular gains.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    The type of person to do that, is 100% the type of guy to run into an active MRI like he could do anything. Theres no logical thinking going on, and an outright refusal to listen to qualified medical advice.

    Darwin, engage!

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    9kg is around 20 pounds. what, did he have a kettlebell as a pendant?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    the answers to all your questions lie in the article you didn't read

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    The article doesn't really answer much about the necklace though. I want to see a picture of it and understand why the fuck someone would wear it. Like "for weigh training" but what the fuck is he exercising on a random day in the hospital.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    What kind of hospital let him get near the room with that kind of metal around his neck? I've had to be in several hospitals recently for different imaging issues and every time the MRI is a thing I have to remove everything metal to go past a certain door (escorting my daughter and son for medical reasons). I don't know who let him anywhere near the room with something that large.

    Edit for Clarity: I've had to be the one removing all metal even though I'm not the one being scanned. For me to progress beyond a certain part of the hospital toward the MRI I needed to get rid of everything. My children were being scanned, not me. So, I'm not sure what hospital system allowed this man with a 9kg chain get this far deep into the imaging area.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    He wasn't supposed to be in the room. There was a scan in progress when he entered.

    Seems to me all they needed was a magnet of equal or greater strength placed opposite of, and perhaps a bit closer to the doorway, to pull intruders away from the MRI room.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

    Whole thing is heart breaking all around. I feel for the technician who made an honest but very serious mistake. And I'm sure the wife will spend her days regretting asking for help. Just a fucking tragic situation. :/

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    all they needed was a magnet of equal or greater strength

    MRI magnets are electromagnets that are supercooled with liquid helium and take hours to start or stop because of the electrical energy that has to be put in or taken out.

    So just having a magnet of equal strengh for idiot defense would be a very significant waste of electricity and helium unfortunately

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    take hours to start or stop

    You mean they're in constant operation the whole shift?
    Surely dialed way down in between scans?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The dectector and the variable field (that induces the localized measurable changes) stop between scans, but the static magnetic field is kept up.

    As long as you keep up the superconductitvity there is basically no electrical loss in the coils. Dialing the magnetic field down would require pulling out the energy, and reinjecting new energy to get the field back up. That's the slow part, because injecting current quickly would heat the coil above superconductivity, leading to a quench.

    I'm not sure how energy is withdrawn in the ordinary shutdown procedure, but I expect it is exchanged into heat and vented to the outside air in some way, rather than reinjected into the grid in a usable form. (The latter would require an inverter to turn the DC back into AC synchronized to the grid, probably would increase complexity by too much). So I suspect it would be wasteful too.

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  • [–] 212 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    Dude was wearing a 20lb chain while his wife was getting an MRI.

    She freaked, and yelled for him, and he ran into the room while the machine was still on and fucking died.

    This is 100% their fault, I could almost see an argument that the door needs a lock to prevent idiots with 20l s of metal around their neck from running in, but you don't want to lock everyone out in case there's an issue.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I’m just thinking about the poor woman. She’s forever going to be haunted with the knowledge that she was the one who called him into the room, and thus led to his death. His decision to come in wasn’t thought out, but that probably won’t relieve her feelings of guilt for having called him in. Such a tragic story.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    She's not going to have one whit of self awareness. I may be going out on a limb here, but it doesn't sound like he was exactly the sharpest bulb in the ocean, and her reported cry to "turn off" the MRI (despite the repeated screenings you get prior to an MRI, warnimg patients about metal) indicate she isn't either. She's 100% gonna blame the provider and sue, adding to the rising cost of healthcare.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Aren't you just a shining beacon of logical, data-driven level-headedness. The fuck is she supposed to do, mentally recite each sign she saw on her way in as her spouse is being crushed before to determine if her request is feasible? Crawl out of the MRI, past her dying partner, and go read the manual to see if the MRI has an emergency stop capability before asking the technicians to intervene?

    I wish you the best in your future human interactions. I hope very few of them are life-threatening because clearly, you'll be of no help if you deem the situation avoidable or deem help unlikely to be successful.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This is a really unempathetic response. I know shit’s tough right now and there are a lot of fools out there, but I beg you to at least try to give the benefit of the doubt and try to think through why people might do the things they do, especially when it’s someone enduring a personal tragedy that’s being publicly scrutinized. Think about the poor old woman who had hot coffee spilled on her crotch at a drive through and endured agonizing disfiguring burns - McDonald’s ran a campaign to paint her as a scammer and opportunist when she had done nothing wrong at all.

    Most people don’t intentionally endanger themselves or their loved ones and they are usually very deferential to authority, especially in medical settings. There’s nothing to indicate this was any more than a miscommunication involving a heavily blinged-out guy who did nothing wrong. The MRI folks didn’t think to brief him because he wasn’t in the danger zone. His wife called for help. Maybe a very observant doctor could have noticed the guy’s jewelry and gave him a warning. Maybe the wife could have recalled that her husband was wearing metal before calling for him. Maybe the doctors could have better screening procedures for people in the waiting area, or better procedures to control access to the MRI room. I can’t say based on the available information that anyone lacks self awareness or did anything obviously wrong here. Sometimes a lot of coincidences line up to make something terrible happen.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago

    Uh she was in the room likely still on the bed laying down considering the story given. So like she'll have some rowdy memories of dude getting mushed into a machine a speed then slowly suffocate if they weren't lucky enough to hit their head really really fucking hard.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    You could put an airlock like metal detector door that only opens the second door, if the first door is closed and there's nothing magnetic inside. People could still go in quickly in emergencies, but nothing that makes it worse can enter.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    As much as the machines cost, something like that wired up with a metal detector so that if the machine is on and there's metal in the airlock it will never open would actually be a good solution....

    But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money. Because like someone else pointed out, the hospital ain't the one paying to fix the machine.

    Maybe Canada would be interested?

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  • [+] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thanks for the info!

    Honestly tho, it's pretty crazy they let dude roam around a hospital with 20lbs of chain around his neck. That's literally a deadly weapon.

    I don't care what story he gave, he should have been told to leave it in his vehicle.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago

    This basically never happens. You want to spend billions guarding against humanity stupidity? Good luck with that.

    But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money.

    🙄

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You could spend billions to implement crazy solutions for every possible scenario.

    Or you could just tell the guy not to go in there.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Did you forget that thousands of hospitals exist just in the US? Or at least did before 2025.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not all of them have MRI machines, and regardless of its cheaper than repairing them.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Hundreds probably do though. I don't know. I've never heard of anything like this happening. I think it's probably exceedingly rare. I had an MRI and the number of times I heard and read the warnings about metal was exhausting. It feels almost impossible that someone could not know about that specific danger.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nah, let them stupids die. I don't want to risk non idiots lives for the chance of saving a moron.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I apologize if im completely misunderstanding, but what "non idiots" are at risk, in what circumstances? Shouldn't there always be a tech?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    No apology necessary.

    There are emergencies that could happen anywhere, including in an MRI room. Dealing with emergencies, ease of ingress and egress is paramount.

    The proposed solutions would hamper access to these rooms during emergencies, putting patients and techs in harms way (the non idiots), in the name of preventing a moron from giving themselves a Darwin award.

    I think it would be a net negative, ie. more people would die/get hurt trying to make an idiot proof enclosure.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Metal detector on the door to the room.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    this seems like the obvious solution to me and it's kinda wacky that it's not already standard, just have a loud as fuck alarm go off if metal goes through the first door leading to the general scanner area.

    just gotta have enough distance between the detector and the scanner, so there's time for people to intervene.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    There is a lot of conflicting information in the articles im finding about this incident, from her shouting and him running in to him entering the room with the technician, and the technician knew about the chain and had commented on it.

    Lmk if you need some examples, but theres a lot.

    Im (cynically) inclined to believe that the hospital were the first to give statements and did a quick its-not-our-fault response. Then more people were interviewed. Ill always side with the working class (imo everyone who is not ruling class) rather than the corporations. And in the US the hospital is a corporation for sure.

    There's some gross racial spin surrounding this too, see pic below. It was a weighted padlock steel necklace for his weight training, not whatever is implied by yahoo.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

    Where does it say he ran in? I mean, what you say sounds right, but this doesn't read like "freaking out"

    Edit: Sounds like she did not freak out, but called to him to help her stand up after it was complete (bad knee), but before he was authorized to enter. This seems more like an honest mistake and tragedy. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/20/health/mri-machine-death-long-island

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That door should absolutely be locked while in operation. That door being forced open should be an e-stop event.

    Someone could walk in there with a firearm or a bowey knife or anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Then the door will always be locked, unless the MRI is being serviced, as the magnet is always active. Kinda kills the point of the machine, no? That said they could put in more safeguards for sure. Though you would think all the signs on and near the door, and the extensive explanation you get, would be enough. But here we are.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    No, signs aren't enough obviously. This is definitely not the first time we've heard of stories of people coming in with guns, chairs what have you.

    It's not everyday, so maybe it's not warranted... But if you look at the things we apply security to we secure against a lot of things that never happen

    Given the apparent danger of the device. There's still plenty of options for security.

    How about a set of man trap doors and a metal detector. The outside pair is unlocked. When you step through the metal detector, If a safe amount of metal is detected the outside door is locked and the inside doors unlock.

    You don't need a very sensitive metal detector The extra construction around two doors, and a small door controller / locks would be super insignificant to the price of the machine.

    If you use cam locks the emergency egress would still be fine. Maybe you'd need to sense the outer door being shut to make sure somebody doesn't hold the door for someone else.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    9 fucking kilograms!? For my fellow Americans, that’s almost 20 pounds!

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Can you convert that to tennis balls? I can't do this math on my own

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Somewhere between 150 and 160, depending on the tennis balls. Hope this helps

    https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=9kg+%2F+mass+of+a+tennis+ball

    Edit: Additionally, that's about 63½ European swallows, assuming an average weight of 5 ounces. Given that a European swallow must beat its wings 43 times per second to maintain airspeed velocity, it'd be a proper racket.

    Tap for spoilerThose numbers are from monty python and the holy grail and are very wrong. I am spreading misinformation online.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And if it's an African swallow?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Not covered in the film and I refuse to get my information anywhere other than Monty Python. The mass of an african swallow is therefore unknowable.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We need a /c/NotFinalDestination, this is literally one of the scenes in the last entry to the franchise.

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