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[–] 1 point 11 hours ago (5 children)

Lol the 'revolutionaries' are just a bunch of cosplayers. That tracks with this thread.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    Liberals can't read or do analysis. Tracks from a libs like yourself who love cosplaying as progressives, get rid of the cosplay and we have a fascist.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago (2 children)

    Yep. Get rid of the progressive cosplay and we have a fascist. Can't argue with that.

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  • [–] 8 points 14 hours ago (10 children)

    How much coping do liberals do over elections? Quite a lot actually, for decades upon decades it's been the same results and yet you lot still keep coping. And now you are projecting. Typical of a liberal.

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  • [–] 8 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

    Yeah DPRK, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, China don't exist.

    The ML revolution will be coming any minute now.

    How much of your coping that the election will finally improve things? How did that go in 2008? 2012? 2020? Keeps getting progressively worse and fascism is on the rise everywhere in the western hemisphere but okay ML is coping.

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  • [+] -2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    It's literally right fucking there????

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  • [–] -1 points 13 hours ago* (1 child)

    Huh...i wasn't aware the Lao communists survived. Shame about Cambodia....

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  • [–] 5 points 13 hours ago*

    Yeah, Cambodia is a weird case. The Khmer Rouge developed a weird anti-Vietnamese ethno nationalism, and then when the Vietnamese kicked them out of power, they installed an actually Socialist government, The People's Republic of Kampuchea, but it was ultimately unable to survive the collapse of the Comecon, the Socialist trade bloc, and the continual Khmer Rouge insurgency.

    The UN had to step in at one point to administer things, and it ultimately ended in the re-establishment of the Cambodian monarchy

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  • [–] 9 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

    Laos and Cambodia no longer exists.

    ???? It literally exists what the fuck are you on about.

    Laos and Cambodia no longer exists.

    Pol Pot... easy tell that you are just trolling at this point. Read a book that isn't made for toddlers.

    From an earlier post you said

    China is communist in name only.

    And I asked you to explain how, but you aren't answering, instead just making childish posts like a shitlib who secretly loves fascism.

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  • [–] -1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    You do realise that Vietnam overthrew Pol Pot?

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  • [–] 7 points 13 hours ago* (2 children)

    I do know that. Why?

    Also answer the damn question.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago*

    No it won't it will most likely be some decades until the material conditions arrive. But it will happen eventually as conditions continue to worsen and voting continues to do nothing. In the meantime you can organise and go on strike just like many parts of Europe at the moment.

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  • [–] 15 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

    "Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world's resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better."

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  • [+] -6 points 17 hours ago* (2 children)

    You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak.

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  • [–] 9 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy.

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  • [–] 13 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

    China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people's lives all the time.

    Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades.

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  • [+] -9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    China is communist in name only.

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  • [–] 8 points 12 hours ago*

    Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker

    They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure.

    You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well

    What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia??

    Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets?

    How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war?

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  • [+] -13 points 1 day ago (12 children)

    I'm not asking you to solve every problem but doing something, even something small is better than sitting on your ass bitching about other people doing something.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago* (10 children)

    I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you're voting and nothing else, you're doing worse than nothing, you're actively legitimizing genocide and war.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party?

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  • [+] -9 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    What's the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren't viable. It sucks but that's the situation we're in. If you're running for office and have great ideas than it's wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist.

    oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me.

    You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end.

    What is it I should be focusing on then?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago

    Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me.

    Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans.

    What is it I should be focusing on then?

    I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago

    I’m complaining because voting is important.

    The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago

    In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    Join a revolutionary party and organize.

    Or you could be like every liberal who will say they can wait years for any progress but at the same time expect immediate results when other alternatives are brought up. Even Martin Luther King Jr. wrote on it!

    I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

    Which is very fitting too because now it's not only the Palestinian genocide, which is already far, far beyond of what is remotely acceptable, but now it's also trans people being thrown under the bus. ICE will still operate but it will be "done right" which means white liberals will keep on going to brunch and forgetting about all the horrible shit Amerika is doing because it's okay when it's the blue team doing it.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    My plan is to ridicule people online who try to ask for revolutionary plans to be posted on public forums as some kind of thought terminating cliche / useful idiotry for federal agents.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 day ago (8 children)
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    I’m here for it. Why haven’t you done it already?

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Too many people are still having brunch and want to wait a few more years. These types of events are not done alone.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Because despite saying you're here for it, youre not here for it enough to be willing to take up arms to defend the person running the guillotine from the state violence capitalists will always use to defend capitalism.

    I'm not really here for that either, but only because there aren't enough people who would join me to make it anything but a really complicated suicide method.

    First you have to build the revolution. Then you'll have no choice but to fight the revolution. So you can vote for more of the same, or you can join an actual communist party and start helping to build the revolution. Hell, you can even do both. But one of those things is like praying for rain, and one is like picking up tools for the dirty, sweaty, unpleasant job of constricting an irrigation system.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 child)

    Mighty bold assumptions on your part.

    I’m very prepared to do what needs to be done. I’ve organized as much as I can without leaving evidence.

    And you’re not the person that was asked.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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    [–] 4 points 1 day ago (24 children)

    no one on lemmy thinks that "voting is all it takes"

    what purpose does this serve?

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    Non sequitur reply to a question to provoke an off-topic response to the original question.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (14 children)

    how is direct progressive action offtopic?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

    Bad faith question asked while possessing the knowledge that the topic being referred to was the question asked in the original comment.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 day ago (12 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (11 children)

    Log onto different alts to down vote the comments of someone asking a genuine question instead of answering said question.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    You didn't ask your question in bad faith?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    Use DARVO tactics while not denying using alts to astroturf a narrative.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 day ago (8 children)
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    Deny that using alt accounts to downvote a user you dont like is promoting a narrative.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (6 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (5 children)

    Continues to pretend to be clueless without ever addressing the original question.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Your bad faith question, or my rhetorical critical question? I am asking you what you think my narrative is, and expose yours.
    This is simple debate questions you're evading to answer.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    Attempting to reframe a genuine question as bad faith while being the user to use alts to manipulate the public image of the comment chain, and never actually answering the original damn question.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    So I am willing to play in bona fide that when you asked:

    what purpose does this serve?

    That you have to be ignorant how diverse, and digressively perverse lemmy is, that you're not aware how demagoguery Democrats & MAGA are diffusing the Hoovering in this network: Have you had to call an AIPAC recipient a plutocratic shill?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    Posts links to a dead lemmy reddit mirror, a dead lemmy MAGA instance, and a post about transphobic establishment dems to prove that... people on lemmy think voting is the only thing needed to fix the world, without any of the links provided stating that.

    edit: supposed to believe any of your replies are in good faith while alts down voted all of my comments.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago

    The first link was hosted and paid for a Democrat who incorporated 50001 & #Nokings.¹
    Second link proves we have MAGA gestapoing the network.
    Third link shows how Democrats in this network¹ plan to eradicate campists, Leninists, commies, liberals, anarchists, Europeans, in hoovering tactics. You may know it as “Divide, sabotage, and conquer.”

    You, me, and IndustryStandard know praxis doesn't cease at the plutocrat’s ballot.

    Yet Democrats have not banished transphobes from their constituency. Have not demolished deathcamps. Have not composted Zionists. Have not empowered their voting base, etc..

    We both know plutocratic balloting is consent for Nazism. So IndustryStandard is cutting off Democrat propaganda they’ll do “We don't have time in this session.” They already posted their goals this midterm: collaborate with Nazis. Even Mamdani stated such.

    Downranks prove another point rankers don't seem to comprehend, which you keep demonstrating every single time you downrank my replies. How are your questions any less “not worth reading” than mines?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (5 children)

    Common poster who persistently trys to play the 'voting is useless and all American politicians are zionist/imperialist/neolibs' line out.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    when are we returning Venezuela & Greenland?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Non sequitur question to a reply to provoke an off-topic response to the original statement.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    US colonialism of foreign countries is now offtopic‽

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