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[+] daggermoon@piefed.world -17 points 3 days ago (47 children) What's your plan then? permalink fedilink source hideshow 47 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago (26 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago* (10 children) I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you're voting and nothing else, you're doing worse than nothing, you're actively legitimizing genocide and war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 3 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -11 points 3 days ago (13 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (5 children) "Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world's resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 2 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (4 children) China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people's lives all the time. Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 2 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) Why don't you do something about Pine Gap then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children) Join a revolutionary party and organize. Or you could be like every liberal who will say they can wait years for any progress but at the same time expect immediate results when other alternatives are brought up. Even Martin Luther King Jr. wrote on it! I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. Which is very fitting too because now it's not only the Palestinian genocide, which is already far, far beyond of what is remotely acceptable, but now it's also trans people being thrown under the bus. ICE will still operate but it will be "done right" which means white liberals will keep on going to brunch and forgetting about all the horrible shit Amerika is doing because it's okay when it's the blue team doing it. 🎯 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 10 points 3 days ago But the white people are inclusively genociding people abroad now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 days ago (2 children) Which party is that? I’d love to join. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (1 child) PSL is one I know of. I'm not an Amerikan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] waltersf@bookwyr.me -6 points 3 days ago ah, the cops cosplay commies in Amerikkka permalink fedilink source parent [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children) My plan is to ridicule people online who try to ask for revolutionary plans to be posted on public forums as some kind of thought terminating cliche / useful idiotry for federal agents. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago Fun too. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 12 points 3 days ago (8 children) 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago Well, yours is better than the other guy permalink fedilink source parent [+] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -7 points 3 days ago (6 children) I’m here for it. Why haven’t you done it already? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children) Too many people are still having brunch and want to wait a few more years. These types of events are not done alone. 🎯 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Are you organizing? If so, how to join? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 3 days ago Nice try FBI permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (2 children) Because despite saying you're here for it, youre not here for it enough to be willing to take up arms to defend the person running the guillotine from the state violence capitalists will always use to defend capitalism. I'm not really here for that either, but only because there aren't enough people who would join me to make it anything but a really complicated suicide method. First you have to build the revolution. Then you'll have no choice but to fight the revolution. So you can vote for more of the same, or you can join an actual communist party and start helping to build the revolution. Hell, you can even do both. But one of those things is like praying for rain, and one is like picking up tools for the dirty, sweaty, unpleasant job of constricting an irrigation system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) Mighty bold assumptions on your part. I’m very prepared to do what needs to be done. I’ve organized as much as I can without leaving evidence. And you’re not the person that was asked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago No, but I'm the one who answered. And anyone genuinely dedicated to building a revolutionary movement wouldn't need to ask "WhY aReN't YoU dOiNg It"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 2 points 3 days ago (2 children) peasy, demolish deathcamps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Here or abroad? I don't think Dems will demolish either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 5 points 3 days ago yes. Dems will demolish either. Exactly why we are criticizing “what's your plan?” dudes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 days ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago (26 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago* (10 children) I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you're voting and nothing else, you're doing worse than nothing, you're actively legitimizing genocide and war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 3 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -11 points 3 days ago (13 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (5 children) "Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world's resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 2 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (4 children) China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people's lives all the time. Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 2 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) Why don't you do something about Pine Gap then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago* (10 children) I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you're voting and nothing else, you're doing worse than nothing, you're actively legitimizing genocide and war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 3 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago* (10 children) I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you're voting and nothing else, you're doing worse than nothing, you're actively legitimizing genocide and war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 3 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 3 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 3 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -11 points 3 days ago (13 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (5 children) "Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world's resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 2 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (4 children) China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people's lives all the time. Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 2 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) Why don't you do something about Pine Gap then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (5 children) "Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world's resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 2 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 2 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent
[–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (4 children) China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people's lives all the time. Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 2 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 2 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) Why don't you do something about Pine Gap then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children) Join a revolutionary party and organize. Or you could be like every liberal who will say they can wait years for any progress but at the same time expect immediate results when other alternatives are brought up. Even Martin Luther King Jr. wrote on it! I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. Which is very fitting too because now it's not only the Palestinian genocide, which is already far, far beyond of what is remotely acceptable, but now it's also trans people being thrown under the bus. ICE will still operate but it will be "done right" which means white liberals will keep on going to brunch and forgetting about all the horrible shit Amerika is doing because it's okay when it's the blue team doing it. 🎯 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 10 points 3 days ago But the white people are inclusively genociding people abroad now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 days ago (2 children) Which party is that? I’d love to join. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (1 child) PSL is one I know of. I'm not an Amerikan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] waltersf@bookwyr.me -6 points 3 days ago ah, the cops cosplay commies in Amerikkka permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 10 points 3 days ago But the white people are inclusively genociding people abroad now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 days ago (2 children) Which party is that? I’d love to join. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (1 child) PSL is one I know of. I'm not an Amerikan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] waltersf@bookwyr.me -6 points 3 days ago ah, the cops cosplay commies in Amerikkka permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (1 child) PSL is one I know of. I'm not an Amerikan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] waltersf@bookwyr.me -6 points 3 days ago ah, the cops cosplay commies in Amerikkka permalink fedilink source parent
[+] waltersf@bookwyr.me -6 points 3 days ago ah, the cops cosplay commies in Amerikkka permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children) My plan is to ridicule people online who try to ask for revolutionary plans to be posted on public forums as some kind of thought terminating cliche / useful idiotry for federal agents. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago Fun too. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago Fun too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago Fun too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 12 points 3 days ago (8 children) 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago Well, yours is better than the other guy permalink fedilink source parent [+] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -7 points 3 days ago (6 children) I’m here for it. Why haven’t you done it already? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children) Too many people are still having brunch and want to wait a few more years. These types of events are not done alone. 🎯 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Are you organizing? If so, how to join? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 3 days ago Nice try FBI permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (2 children) Because despite saying you're here for it, youre not here for it enough to be willing to take up arms to defend the person running the guillotine from the state violence capitalists will always use to defend capitalism. I'm not really here for that either, but only because there aren't enough people who would join me to make it anything but a really complicated suicide method. First you have to build the revolution. Then you'll have no choice but to fight the revolution. So you can vote for more of the same, or you can join an actual communist party and start helping to build the revolution. Hell, you can even do both. But one of those things is like praying for rain, and one is like picking up tools for the dirty, sweaty, unpleasant job of constricting an irrigation system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) Mighty bold assumptions on your part. I’m very prepared to do what needs to be done. I’ve organized as much as I can without leaving evidence. And you’re not the person that was asked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago No, but I'm the one who answered. And anyone genuinely dedicated to building a revolutionary movement wouldn't need to ask "WhY aReN't YoU dOiNg It"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago Well, yours is better than the other guy permalink fedilink source parent
[+] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -7 points 3 days ago (6 children) I’m here for it. Why haven’t you done it already? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children) Too many people are still having brunch and want to wait a few more years. These types of events are not done alone. 🎯 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Are you organizing? If so, how to join? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 3 days ago Nice try FBI permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (2 children) Because despite saying you're here for it, youre not here for it enough to be willing to take up arms to defend the person running the guillotine from the state violence capitalists will always use to defend capitalism. I'm not really here for that either, but only because there aren't enough people who would join me to make it anything but a really complicated suicide method. First you have to build the revolution. Then you'll have no choice but to fight the revolution. So you can vote for more of the same, or you can join an actual communist party and start helping to build the revolution. Hell, you can even do both. But one of those things is like praying for rain, and one is like picking up tools for the dirty, sweaty, unpleasant job of constricting an irrigation system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) Mighty bold assumptions on your part. I’m very prepared to do what needs to be done. I’ve organized as much as I can without leaving evidence. And you’re not the person that was asked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago No, but I'm the one who answered. And anyone genuinely dedicated to building a revolutionary movement wouldn't need to ask "WhY aReN't YoU dOiNg It"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children) Too many people are still having brunch and want to wait a few more years. These types of events are not done alone. 🎯 1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Are you organizing? If so, how to join? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 3 days ago Nice try FBI permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Are you organizing? If so, how to join? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 3 days ago Nice try FBI permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 3 days ago Nice try FBI permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (2 children) Because despite saying you're here for it, youre not here for it enough to be willing to take up arms to defend the person running the guillotine from the state violence capitalists will always use to defend capitalism. I'm not really here for that either, but only because there aren't enough people who would join me to make it anything but a really complicated suicide method. First you have to build the revolution. Then you'll have no choice but to fight the revolution. So you can vote for more of the same, or you can join an actual communist party and start helping to build the revolution. Hell, you can even do both. But one of those things is like praying for rain, and one is like picking up tools for the dirty, sweaty, unpleasant job of constricting an irrigation system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) Mighty bold assumptions on your part. I’m very prepared to do what needs to be done. I’ve organized as much as I can without leaving evidence. And you’re not the person that was asked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago No, but I'm the one who answered. And anyone genuinely dedicated to building a revolutionary movement wouldn't need to ask "WhY aReN't YoU dOiNg It"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) Mighty bold assumptions on your part. I’m very prepared to do what needs to be done. I’ve organized as much as I can without leaving evidence. And you’re not the person that was asked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago No, but I'm the one who answered. And anyone genuinely dedicated to building a revolutionary movement wouldn't need to ask "WhY aReN't YoU dOiNg It"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago No, but I'm the one who answered. And anyone genuinely dedicated to building a revolutionary movement wouldn't need to ask "WhY aReN't YoU dOiNg It"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 2 points 3 days ago (2 children) peasy, demolish deathcamps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Here or abroad? I don't think Dems will demolish either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 5 points 3 days ago yes. Dems will demolish either. Exactly why we are criticizing “what's your plan?” dudes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Here or abroad? I don't think Dems will demolish either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 5 points 3 days ago yes. Dems will demolish either. Exactly why we are criticizing “what's your plan?” dudes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 5 points 3 days ago yes. Dems will demolish either. Exactly why we are criticizing “what's your plan?” dudes. permalink fedilink source parent