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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 days ago (26 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -11 points 4 days ago (13 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (5 children) "Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world's resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 3 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago (4 children) China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people's lives all the time. Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 3 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Why don't you do something about Pine Gap then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -14 points 4 days ago (12 children) I'm not asking you to solve every problem but doing something, even something small is better than sitting on your ass bitching about other people doing something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago* (10 children) I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you're voting and nothing else, you're doing worse than nothing, you're actively legitimizing genocide and war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 4 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (6 children) What's the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren't viable. It sucks but that's the situation we're in. If you're running for office and have great ideas than it's wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -11 points 4 days ago (13 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (5 children) "Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world's resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 3 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago (4 children) China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people's lives all the time. Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 3 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Why don't you do something about Pine Gap then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (5 children) "Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world's resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 3 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist. I'm sure you'll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -7 points 3 days ago* (3 children) You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn't really even being suppressed during its peak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent
[–] criscodisco@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (2 children) The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago to mitigate the sanctions. Yet just one single post before you said Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak. Typical for you, bad faith permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago (4 children) China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people's lives all the time. Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 3 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -10 points 3 days ago (2 children) China is communist in name only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 child) Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -5 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there's constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure. You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia?? Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it's destitute and has open slave markets? How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Why don't you do something about Pine Gap then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol permalink fedilink source parent
[+] daggermoon@piefed.world -14 points 4 days ago (12 children) I'm not asking you to solve every problem but doing something, even something small is better than sitting on your ass bitching about other people doing something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago* (10 children) I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you're voting and nothing else, you're doing worse than nothing, you're actively legitimizing genocide and war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 4 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (6 children) What's the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren't viable. It sucks but that's the situation we're in. If you're running for office and have great ideas than it's wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago* (10 children) I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you're voting and nothing else, you're doing worse than nothing, you're actively legitimizing genocide and war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 4 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (6 children) What's the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren't viable. It sucks but that's the situation we're in. If you're running for office and have great ideas than it's wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daggermoon@piefed.world -5 points 4 days ago (9 children) For the record, I don't believe your ideology is wack. It's one I share. The difference is that I vote. I'm complaining because voting is important. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (6 children) What's the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren't viable. It sucks but that's the situation we're in. If you're running for office and have great ideas than it's wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (7 children) Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (6 children) What's the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren't viable. It sucks but that's the situation we're in. If you're running for office and have great ideas than it's wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (6 children) What's the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren't viable. It sucks but that's the situation we're in. If you're running for office and have great ideas than it's wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (3 children) It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don't shape the party, it shapes you. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] daggermoon@piefed.world -9 points 4 days ago (2 children) Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. You're only focusing on electoralism and it's a dead end. What is it I should be focusing on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won't be any more successful than the 499th. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me. Really? It has never happened, it can't happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans. What is it I should be focusing on then? I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) This guy just convinced me not to vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daggermoon@piefed.world -4 points 3 days ago In your case, probably for the best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago I’m complaining because voting is important. The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent