“Oh, absolutely,” Tyler responded with a laugh, according to Edwards, “How can a father not be attracted to his daughter, especially when she’s a cross between the girl he married and himself? Unless he’s an ugly man, a father is always gonna be sexually attracted to his daughter on a certain level… However, the real man knows that’s just a place to never go. There’s ways to love it without making love to it; I wrote ‘Janie’s Got a Gun’ about fathers who don’t know the difference.”
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As a father with daughters: No fucking way. I will never listen to his music again if that's what he thinks. That's heinous, and to go out and publicly announce you wanna fuck your daughter... What the fuck. Ew, please stop breathing.
This is why I continue to speak out about these issues. Not everyone knows some of the vile pedophilic shit that we have allowed to fester openly.
Thank you for saying something, thank you for rejecting these types of men, thank you.
The last time I posted about this, there were quite a few comments crying that this was so long ago and he already was scolded publicly or whatever. Pathetic the way some people will move to defend pedophiles.
I appreciate your work
Anthony Kiedis from RHCP is another example I'm vocal about whenever that band comes up. Unfortunately, most people don't seem to know that he openly admits to "dating" children on a fairly regular basis with no remorse, and the rest of the band seems to be into it as they continue to perform together.
People tend to not like having their parasocial relationships questioned, but it's important to remind ourselves and others that we don't know these people and to not worship them just because they're "rockstars."
The last time I posted about this, there were quite a few comments crying that this was so long ago and he already was scolded publicly or whatever.
Those people are vile. The kind of people that led to society being more apathetic.
You're doing good work
for anyone who wants the full context, as I did:
Does Steven Tyler ever find himself inappropriately attracted to his daughter Liv?
That’s one of those questions you ask last in an interview, in case the guy gets offended and hangs up the phone. But when I asked Tyler, the Aerosmith singer replied, “Oh, absolutely,” adding his trademark cackle. “How can a father not be attracted to his daughter, especially when she’s a cross between the girl he married and himself? Unless he’s an ugly man, a father is always gonna be sexually attracted to his daughter on a certain level.” So you’re saying incest is based in vanity? “Positively, there’s a certain level of narcissism in incest. All a man has to do is be totally honest with himself and he can see it. However, the real man knows that’s just a place to never go. Instead he celebrates it by telling his daughter how beautiful she is and what a precious child of God she is. There’s ways to love it without making love to it–I wrote ‘Janie’s Got a Gun’ about fathers who don’t know the difference.”
(Excerpted from the 2006 book Is Tiny Dancer Really Elton’s Little John?: Music’s Most Enduring Mysteries, Myths, and Rumors Revealed, published by Three Rivers Press, written by Gavin Edwards.)
the context doesn't save it. I think I see what he was going for, but even as somebody without kids, I just don't see how you wouldn't entirely separate your child's appearance from your sexual attraction to her mother.
oh and ofc now I see the context OP added that was buried way down in the comments, after I spent time looking for it amongst a lot of dead ends
oh and ofc now I see the context OP added that was buried way down in the comments, after I spent time looking for it amongst a lot of dead ends
Sorry! I tried to add it when I saw the original article didn't actually have the interview text, but obviously it got buried. Thank you for digging it up!
Uh.
Wut.
I... are people only now realizing steven tyler is, and has always been, a creep? He had legal custody of a 16yo and got her pregnant, while he was 25+
I knew Steve was scum. I've also heard worrisome things about Foo Fighters supporting weird HIV disinformation onstage. I wasn't sure, but the fact that Grohl is collaborating with this creep makes me feel more certain that Foo Fighters are wrong 'uns too.
the fact that Grohl is collaborating with this creep
That along with his secret family, yeah, Grohl fucking sucks, too.
I can't keep tabs on all these fucking dudes. It's just exhausting
Just assume that every successful musician is a piece of shit. Even Mozart was a douche.
God damn it, I have to just... Only care about stuff I just found. Off to bandcamp for some random post-punk shit ig
I was similarly heartbroken about Against Me! when the lead singer admitted to domestic abuse. It was so messy and it was messy on both sides, but I couldn't listen anymore without thinking of the abuse.
I'm currently feeling a little weird about Rise Against because the lead singer liked Pink's anti Macklemore Instagram post. I know the other members have made some pro-Palestine comments, but it's just a little concerning. Then there's Linkin Park feeling very money hungry since Chester died, I just don't feel the passion in their music. Neither of those are as bad ad domestic abuse (depending on the deeper meaning behind liking that post) but it's still hard to listen to.
Oh that brings back a shitty memory.
My father one day, told me apropos of fucking nothing, he was worried when we (me and twin) got to a certain age, he might find us attractive since after all we looked just like our mother. However, luckily he said, that never happened probably because he remembers changing diapers and feeding us and stuff.
It fucking squicked me out hard.
I'm going to shove that back into the vault.
Universal healthcare needs to include universal therapy, so that adults (esp. men) will stop traumatizing everyone around them just cus they don’t have someone to say their inside thoughts out loud to
Mine acted upon that early on. He never got a "World's Best Dad" coffee mug from me.
Days without gross nonsense, zero

Jesus Christ, for real?
I have always despised this man, but I didn't think he was this vile, disgusting worm
Yeah, no... that's not normal... If you do this you're just a paedophile... Ewww
Creeps are out in force on this thread eh?
....where? There's one creepy comment and it's buried in downvotes
The other comments equating pedophiles and homosexuals weren't creepy to you?
At the risk of getting banned myself, I don't agree with that interpretation of their comment (and even if I did, "creepy" isn't how I'd describe bigotry)
They were trying to draw a connection between Tyler thinking he's hot and the obviously-closeted conservatives who say the gayest things imaginable while supporting anti-LGBT legislation.
I don't like that comparison because Tyler is just an arrogant rockstar who thinks he's the best. And I don't like the comment because there's no real reason to bring that up.
But I really don't believe they were trying to equate pedophiles and homosexuals.
The ban only came after he tripled down on it and asked me to ban him btw.
There is 0 indication that Steven Tyler is gay. Positing that closeted homosexuals become obsessed with women to hide their obsession with other men and children is directly conflating homosexuals and pedophiles.
they stay in the closet and eventually their sexual wiring starts sparking, and they end up being sexually attracted to their daughter.
This is homophobic.
I understand that interpretation but I still think they were referring specifically to the idea that he finds his daughter attractive because she looks like him, a man. That's the "gay" thing he said.
I agree that the quoted sentence is pretty homophobic but I still wouldn't call any of this creepy
This is a weird hill to die on.
...that creepiness isn't the same thing as bigotry...?
No, that you're defending that user despite his really clear homophobic stances.
But creepy and bigotry aren't mutually exclusive anyway.
As a Father, that sentence evoked a sense of disgust in me of which I was unaware I was capable of. What the actual fuck.
Well, at least he knows he'll always have a career as a GOP politician if he wants it
I feel like Liv's mother chose to raise her with a different man than her bio father, as her father for a reason.
It’s quite funny when users on Lemmy don’t realize their down votes are public.
Eh I almost down voted it because the quote is disgusting. I could see others doing the same.
Oh people are downvoting the post itself.
Yeah I get that. Hopefully because they don't agree with his opinion. Who knows around here though.
If you take a look at the mod log for this community, there's a lot of people who agree with his opinion.
I was trying to not lose more hope in people. Thanks lol
Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine when people downplay the amount of misogyny and such around here.
Not down playing anything. Just trying to be positive.
Mhm.
People absolutely downvote this shit because they don't want me talking about it, they think it's ok to rape teenagers, they think 14 year olds are "willing and consensual", and they really really don't like women participating on Lemmy.
Not quite. You can see them because you mod this comm, others can’t see them. And it’s just for posts and not comments.
No, upvotes and downvotes can be seen by anyone if they know where to look.
Not sure. I don’t think on Lemmy. Possibly on Piefed. But do enlighten me if it’s possible on Lemmy
If you run an instance, who voted how is federated to you.
Anyone can run an instance. Someone who has access to that info can share it with you.
I could have sworn I've seen multiple conversations about up/downvotes being public on Lemmy. Let me see if I can dig those up again. Others are way better at describing tech-y things than myself.




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