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In authoritarian regimes it isn't uncommon for the state officers and soldiers to engage in casual theft along side their official duties. With the way our country is going, there is a non-zero chance this was an actual ICE officer just working his "side hustle".
Or was he a real ICE agent with a side hustle?
Either way, this person is incredibly ballsy and an absolute genius, especially if they just leave with the money and don't actually take anyone (to avoid kidnapping charges).
All you gotta do is go to your van to "get an evidence bag" or "handcuffs", then start the engine and drive off. By the time they realize that you're never coming back for the zip tied person, you're already hid the van and swapped outfits several miles away from the crime scene.
That's not genuis, like that's a pretty obvious thing to do
Then why aren't more people doing it?
Where l'm from we had a couple of incidents of people dressing up as police and then stealing money from people. We don't have ICE so people don't dress up as ICE. Maybe I don't get it because police and ICE are so different in the USA? Just didn't strike me as genius.
Only one thing to do now. We have to treat all ICE agents like armed criminals until they show their face, a badge, and a warrant.
I saw zero indications that ICE agents weren't criminals before this.
I don't see how that absolves them of being criminals. We should ship them to El Salvador and sort out the good ones later.
Agreed. It is easy to say "do it" ... but there are a lot of things that could go wrong for a good guy with a gun.
I was thinking more along the lines of trespassing them if they are on your property or at a business that the employees may not want ICE at. Also maybe calling the police on them ... an armed guy in a mask with a Temu printed Tshirt that says "ICE" is certainly suspicious.
This is something I've thought about a lot. Obviously this is not legal advice, don't try this shit based on this comment. Say a cop shows up to your door with a warrant and says "Let me in to search your house." How the fuck am I supposed to react to this? If a cop asks to search something, you should always say no (unless there's some sort of implied consent like breathalyzers in Georgia for drivers). But if they have a warrant, how do I even know it's a real warrant? I'm not a legal expert. I don't wanna sound like a sovereign citizen type who believes random words make you immune to things but I feel like the proper thing to do is say something like "I don't consent, but I'm not resisting." Then just stand there. Don't close the door, but don't open it more either.
Like imagine a vampire. Right? They can only come in if they're invited. As humans we use certain phrases to make orders sound like requests to be polite. I used to get in trouble with my mom as a kid because of it. She'd say things like "Please do X" and I'd protest saying because she's saying please it's like she's asking, not telling. That's not necessarily the best example of it, but it helps demonstrate the point. "Let me do X" is sort of a request to be given permission to do X without actually asking to do X. If they have a warrant, why ask at all? Why not just come in?
Idk, I pray that I'm never in a situation like this.
Everybody pretends to be an ICE agent to steal or commit violence, it is an utterly illegitimate mob of thugs loyal to a dictator.
The only thing that isn't pretend about ICE is the bigotry and violence.
I see no meaningful difference between these people and "actual ICE agents".
The meaningful difference is the relief felt by this poor woman when she discovered she was just being robbed, not deported.
It's actually really easy to cosplay as ICE too.
Face mask. Cheap jacket. Fake ass vest.

I’m gonna pretend to be an ice agent and go into a McDonald’s and order a McFlurry and pay for my it and say thank you and eat in the lobby and clean up my mess and leave and never mention I’m an ice agent.
I hope we start seeing people dressing up as ICE agents and then disappearing real ICE agents while they're off duty. Just round them up. When they protest and try to show their citizenship papers, just call them fake. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Remember, in the US, you can be charged for obstructing a plain-clothes officer's duties even before they ID themselves. (I'm not a lawyer but you could refer to 18 USC 111 or 18 USC 1501, or the fact that police don't need to know the law properly to enforce it, Heien v. North Carolina)
And, fake-ICE cosplayers like this guy can have their charges dropped by DOJ or pardoned by Trump.
So if you get visited by someone unknown, you're damned if you do or you don't. Demand a judicial warrant and wait to receive one with an actual judge's signature, before you open the door to agents you don't know.
If ICE agents behave like criminal thugs why wouldn't criminal thugs behave like ICE agents?
or they are one in the same, ooh.
i think a guy who steals a $1000 is still overall a more decent human being than a guy who kidnaps and imprisons people because, well, he didn't like the vibe (of their skin colour or accent)
imagine the relief of that latino woman when instead of being taken and thrown into a cage with no way to get out or prove her citizenship status the guy just took some money.
ICE are worse than thugs
The bigger ooh is that unlike thugs, ICErs are paid by an elected government.
#stopthugdiscrimination #ICEareWellfareQueens
For all we know, this guy is active duty ICE and just robbing people in his free time.
After the guy left the lady was probably like “thank god that wasn’t an ice agent.”
Remember the right claiming Floyd protesters were all looters? Itso happens whenever the nation is in distress (in this economical and societal context) the smartest of potential crimedoers would take that as an opportunity. Whenever it's some natural disaster or social conflict, there would be some to use it. And it's fucking frightening that America came to the point that the thing that bothers us is that thugs didn't have a real license to do thugs' things, and every other article going by the #ICE tag is not just stealing, but kidnapping people into Salvador camps, so getting mugged by fake ICE officer is better than meeting the real ones now? It's a fucking circus.
How many ''ICE'' agents does it take to empty out a bank? I'm thinking of writing a Hollywood film.
"We're seizing this money as evidence!"
What movie?
He low key helped show why we want law officers to have a branded uniform, name tag and provide ID.
And wearing a mask to hide your identity while performing your job function is pretty sus.
I mean, sure that would be a nice fringe benefit of police reform.
But this was only possible because of the terror police inspire by their mere presence. Nobody is willing to fight back against this guy for fear he's an actual officer. Nobody has any faith in the Real Police (assuming this guy wasn't actually a cop who decided to moonlight as a robber) finding and stopping this guy.
It isn't as though the crook couldn't have slapped a "Hi I'm Jim_" name tag on his chest and done the exact same thing. You have to believe knowing the officer's identify would result in some consequence to the owner of the gear in order to see that as a material benefit.
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