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[–] 89 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It's a serious conversation that's been had amongst historians, anthropologists, archeologists and, of course, paleontologists. It's entirely possible that the dragon myth comes from ancient civilizations uncovering dinosaurs like the T-Rex and imagining what they believe it looked like when alive. They had no concept that it had been dead for 300 million years and didn't exist alongside humans.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago

    It really makes sense. Another one is that when they uncovered skulls of ancient mastodons, they though they were the skulls of Cyclops, because the trunk is located over a giant nasal/sinus opening in the skull, that they assumed was a single eye socket. If you had never seen, or even heard of, a creature with a trunk, a Cyclops would be the obvious assumption.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    It is weird for them to guess it was a reptile of some kind though. How would they know that? By comparing to other contemporary reptile skeletons? That seems very advanced.

    That has always struck me as odd. And humans and dinosaurs have never existed at the same time so it’s not a question of old legends filtering down.

    Yes I know birds are technically dinosaurs please don’t comment to correct me on that.

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  • [–] 104 points 5 days ago (12 children)

    I agree, it seems most folk don't like to talk about the difference between a dragon and a wyvern

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  • [–] 52 points 5 days ago (9 children)

    Complicated topic, but according to the nerdy Eurocentric definition:

    Dragon = 4 limbs + 2 wings (6 total)

    Wyvern = 2 legs + 2 wings (4 total)

    Wyrm = 0 limbs/wings (Still very large, like the Tremors creatures or Sand Worms)

    Technically "dragons" could have anywhere from 0 to hundreds or thousands of limbs/wings, and may or may not have the ability to fly/breathe fire/speak/possess magic/etc. depending on location, culture, and point in time.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (2 children)

    I thought wyrms were 0 legs 2 wings?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 days ago

    Not all dragons are wyverns, but all wyverns are dragons (depending on canonical setting, but this is true for historical myth)

    Done, conversation over, and too many ignorant nerds had this conversation in the Skyrim days while vomiting out the Monster Hunter definition like it speaks for anything but Monster Hunter.

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  • [–] 43 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Dinosaurs skeletons were thought to have come from dragons until the 1800s

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  • [–] 26 points 4 days ago

    People “knew” about dinosaurs and giants (for the less obviously-lizardy bones) for thousands of years. A lot of them were not very far from the surface.

    The idea of Dinosauria has only been around like three hundred years, so you can see why myths prevail. Personally I think Pterosaurs are much more fascinating than any fictional Dragons, but this post is about dinosaurs.

    This image is slop.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 days ago

    Skeletons got a femur in his arm.

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  • [–] 39 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    Why aren't they called flynosaurs?

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  • [–] 15 points 5 days ago

    The reason I'm not ready for this conversation because I"ve heard too many Young Earth Creationists say "There are dragons in da bible, and dinosaurs kinda look like dragons! Therefore, Dinosarus didn't die by meteor they died in da flood!"

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Is the conspiracy theory that the giant wings were eaten, and that an ancient society ate dragon wings like we eat Buffalo wings and that's why there's only tiny arms?

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  • [–] 11 points 5 days ago (8 children)

    So you’re saying dragons are just big chickens?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Do you think the thigh and breast muscles would be tough and gamey, or do you think it would scale similarly as chicken to turkey?

    There's probably a timeline where T-Rex was hunted to extinction like the Mammoth, or was domesticated for food like cattle, pigs, and other modern dinosaurs.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Whose domesticating T-Rexes? That seems like a short career.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    T-Rex flying around with those tiny arms/wings

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  • [–] 29 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Top is slop.

    Bot is submissive, and also slop.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago*

    That’s a wyvern, not a dragon! Fake and gay! FAKE AND GAY!

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    creationists would agree with you
    just started watching forrest valkai's latest video about this exact subject
    https://youtu.be/jdRgXj522a4

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    Dragon legends predate Colombus.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    And are also common to hundreds of separate cultures from around the world

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    i think lots of those "dragons" are so vastly different, that giving them an umbrella term is nothing but an exercise in categorisation. similar how every culture has demons and gods, even though they are so vastly different.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (1 child)

    Yup just more cultural hyperdiffusion to make simple concepts like ‘person with wing stick figure’ or ‘big scary lizard’ seem like they’re only from one source.

    I’m explaining badly check out miniminuteman

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    The T Rex skelly looks like it's pondering or shooting some anime pose

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    I think it's true. Much more likely his comical stubby arms were actually bone structure for majestic wings.

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