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[–] 32 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I started looking into this and the headlines are insane when you finally figure out what they're saying. Russia has lost over one million men. Wtf?

Here is the headline and article explaining how much that is. If you're skimming, this is what you'll get out of it:

Russia ‘losing 6,000 more troops in Ukraine each month than it can recruit’

While Russia is still acquiring new battlefield recruits at speed, with an estimated rate of 1,000 a day, in the last two months even this has not been sufficient to replace those killed or injured.

“We estimate that the gap between the number of people Russia is losing to casualties and the number they’re being able to recruit is around 6,000 a month at the moment,” one western official said.

So that means, at the time (August of this year), they were losing 36,000 men a month. This article confirms that 25,000 were killed. Losing can mean taken out of action. This is why I hate headlines and some of these so called journalists.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago* (13 children)

    I dunno, guess you shouldn't go over to your neighbors and start invading their lands, taking their women and children, and household appliances, or something... Maybe Russia should leave...

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    I can't get over how many people that is. He should have left a long time ago. These are all of his men in their prime.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Russia has a death cult. They are real world necrophage cultist state. No amount of death matters.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    They just have a similar value on life as China has, none, and this isn't something new, this all goes back to Tsar-ist times, but may be getting a bit worse as Russia gets more desperate to fulfill the current strong man in power's wishes.

    John McCain described Russia as a Mafia owned Gas Station and when you think of Russia from that perspective everything else kind of starts to make sense.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    I get what you mean and am in no way an expert on China or their culture.

    Russkie's disdain to human life goes from Herodotus, through the Mongol/Golden Yoke era and straight to modernity.

    Renaissance in Europe started about 13xx. Golden Yoke period in Muscovy ended in 1480.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    I would say I completely agree, but during the Mongols and Huns time causing headaches for Russia they were mostly city-states, rather than an actual nation state yet. So Tsar-ist is as far back as you can really say and have it mean collective Russia as a whole. Gotta remember Kyiv predates all of Russia by a couple of hundred years, Rus the original city-state was a colony of Kyiv.

    As far as China goes, I'm no expert either, but their history is full of hundreds of thousands or millions being killed off somehow, usually driven by man's own actions, even now men are dying lonely due to their dumb ass birthing policies. Life is meaningless to them, and women's lives are worth even less.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Look at their today numbers. You can watch them go in real time. It doesn't say how many of them are from sickness and old age vs. the war, but it has to be a huge part of it, right?

    https://worldpopulationclock.net/russia-live-population-clock/

    Edit:

    Rosstat stopped publishing most monthly birth and death data in 2025, so recent figures rest on partial releases and independent estimates

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I remember back in 2022 Zaluzhnyi had an assumption that the way to stop the war is to make UAF cause enough casualties.

    Hope died after the first 300,000. Boy was he wrong on that one.

    Edit: ah if you go deep enough, Herodotus and Pliny the elder claimed that north of the pontic Scythian lands and Borisphen/Dnipro source lived tribes of androfagoi, who ate humans and decorated themselves with human remains. Russia is only embracing tradition.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    Russians are brainwashed and tightly controlled, and they've been in this state of being basically since Tsar-ist times, you don't just shake off generations of manipulation and conditioning, they're going to be a problem until they choose to solve it or somebody chooses to solve them.

    One story stands out to me about the Soichi Olympics, where the visiting athletes were basically warned about all of the spy devices by very scared staff, in mother Russia Big Brother is always watching (just like America these days).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    "Taking" is what we're calling "kidnapping for raping, and/or indoctrination, interrogation, torture, etc.", now?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Sure let's be pendantic about my obvious point

    Taking people against their will should imply everything you felt you had to add, without having to say it.

    Also why is everyone on this app so fn high strung, like 75% of replies seem to be people trying to pick fights, some of y'all just seem addicted to ragebait, and FOR REAL take that shit to Facebook or Xitter.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    I was making a joke, sorry. Also, maybe clueing in anyone who (somehow) isn't familiar w/ the bullshit. I meant no offense. 🙇🏼‍♂️

    In a similar vein, that response could benefit from a breath, though I'm genuinely sorry that's been your experience here. 🥲 😅

    FWIW, I've had mostly good interactions with our fellow lemmings, even after the reddit exodus. So, I know decent people exist here. Hope you stick around and find 'em. 🫡

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    The good old /s would have helped, but yeah I know I'm already high strung, I'm just used to people around me pulling me back to normalcy, but man some of these people seem to want to fight over dumb shit, no different at all from Reddit or worse, but I'm not here too often, although more often now with all of the enshittification, but it's like "damn I definitely do not want to check my inbox" lol.

    Also I've been banned from Reddit for years and have been generally glad to not be able to participate in the comments, so maybe I'm just not used to handling modern Internet discourse anymore.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    "Lost"? Hardly. They're gonna be sunflowers soon! 🧏🏼‍♂️

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Hunh? Ukraine is known for its sunflowers. Hell, they're a point of cultural pride, no less. Because they're beautiful! 🥳

    So are the flowers. 🥰

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago

    i thought it was more about 1000 or 2000 per day
    Ok. 25000 aprox. per month ... shocking numbers.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    Let me never be reincarnated into a country where the leaders can so openly throw citizens' lives away. Seems like Russia has always been like that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago*

    Every couple months they lose (as in dead) more troops than the US lost in the whole Vietnam war.

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    [–] 12 points 1 week ago

    And almost as many severely wounded.

    Get reckt Russia

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago

    Lots and lots of 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻 🌻

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    And this month will be more like 50000 lost personnel.
    The Russian losses are increasing, and their gains are decreasing.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    How much reliable info is there, are they managing to replace their increasing losses or are they unsustaimably losing more than they can replace?

    If they are losing more then surely it would eventually get to a point when we start to see a Ukrainian breakthrough and likely even higher losses/captured.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    If they are losing more then surely it would eventually get to a point when we start to see a Ukrainian breakthrough and likely even higher losses/captured.

    I am not sure politically Ukraine would go for a massive breakthrough, maybe, but what I think is more likely is Ukraine will slice russia's purposefully diffused offensive lines up into little pieces (since russia optimized for small unit infilitration, this is the unavoidable tradeoff, russia has no concentation of power and no authority over moving large concentrations of power), enclose them and simultaneously pull off large sections of russia's frontline forces from the board leaving the rest in panic.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Well, not likely a breakthrough. As we are seeing in the Russian numbers taking territories incurs more losses than defending territory. Russia is still advancing though making no significant gains.

    Even with the amazing combined arms Ukraine has moving from defensive positions to offensive ones you need to outnumber the now defenders. It’s going to be hard for Ukraine to have the numerical advantage in anything more that small specific pockets of the battlefield.

    A big breakthrough just isn’t in the cards until there are 100’s of thousands of robots or a country steps up with troops to support Ukraine.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (9 children)

    Putin has made it so he has an unlimited ability to mobilize. It's all based on how far he can push the different means of mobilization.
    Before the election they kept id "modest" at about 1000 per day, but there are speculations that Putin could be able to mobilize 500000 personnel in a short time if decides to.

    So Russia definitely has the means to sacrifice more if needed, the question is how much the Russian people is willing to accept. Because even with falsified information, the mobilizations and deaths and wounded can't be kept secret forever even with the best propaganda.
    I keep hoping that all we are waiting for is the straw that breaks the camels back. But although it's been buckling for a while in many ways, it seems it simply wont quite break.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Putin has made it so he has an unlimited ability to mobilize.

    No, Putin is still bound to the laws of physics, russia is severely limited in their ability to mobilize and they are most limited in the roles that matter like sophisticated air defense.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (7 children)

    No, Putin is still bound to the laws of physics,

    Yes sure, but he has free reign without being hindered by Russian law as he used to be.
    So now he can legally make a huge silent mobilization without opposition.

    But the average age in the Russian army on the front is allegedly 38 years. And that's a pretty clear sign they are struggling to get the number of people they want.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    The reason russia is losing the landwar to Ukraine has nothing to do with how many untrained, clueless, scared infantry they have to throw away in mindless waves. Russia is no longer capable of applying artillery pressure on the frontlines without exposing the platforms it uses to do so to being obliterated. Glidebombs are russia's last crutch to lean on but Ukraine just today demonstrated the capability to reach out and destroy russian fighterbombers on the ground, at the static infrastructure they rely on.... glidebombs launched from high performance fighterbombers is a collapsing sandcastle of a strategy for russia.

    Russia can't magically turn a random person into someone capable of operating a sophisticated air defense system and actually protectly friendly airspace without shooting down passenger airliners by accident. That takes years, money, systems of effective professional accountability and it takes a consistent supply of equipment that actually works.

    Russia is fucked.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I agree, but there are political leaders that are expressing concern about it, and among those are Zelenskyj.

    I have previously expressed that sending more untrained people to the front will achieve nothing, and only increase their losses.
    But you have the experienced people already there, and they use these new canon fodder "soldiers" to run out to die, to reveal Ukrainian positions. It's absolutely disgusting, but they do get some tactical benefit from these poor bastards.

    Yes Russia is fucked. But the war is an enormous burden and cause for suffering for Ukraine.
    It would be better if Russia simply collapsed already.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Yes I agree the war must stop, I do not desire endless conflict I just also realize how Putin will try to use mass terrorism against Ukrainian civilians to distract the political narrative about power balance here.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Oh yes, Putin is always trying to be as scary as possible. Both in an attempt to make Ukraine give up, but also in an attempt to make their allies give up. The truth is Putin lost already in the early days, when Zelenskyj refused an airlift out of Kiev, an stated he needed weapons not a ride.
    Putin tries to manipulate and scare to influence politics as you say. But luckily not everyone is falling for it. It's mostly the weak minded like Trump.
    But the story about mobilization of up to 500000 troops is not a Putin story, that's a Zelenskyj story and many analysts making that warning.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Do we really reliably know how many they have lost or the average age? How?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Information in war is almost never 100% reliable, I don't know where the age number came from, I just saw it reported.
    The number of lost Russian soldiers should however be pretty reliable as that is published every day by the Ukrainian ministry of defense. Last I did the math it was about 960 per day. These numbers have been somewhat confirmed by a UK Institute for the Study of war, and even Pentagon although it's a long while I've seen numbers from them last.
    I guess the average age is also from Ukraine.

    I post the daily numbers here every day.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Such a senseless tragedy, already had enough land but is greedy to cause all this suffering to take more, greedy bitch!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    And more than in ww2 (if calculated to conflict scale)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    If the body count is accurate (more than 1.5 million Russian casualties since 2022), I'm not sure why that isn't talked about more in the media landscape . . .

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Keep in mind that that's the number of permanent military losses, not deaths. The number of deaths is still far under one million. The number is telling how many soldiers the Russia has lost. Mostly to mutilation by explosives.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (10 children)
  • [–] [S] 0 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    I’m sad for their families

    Don't be. The families aren't or they'd bring the war to an end, like they did with Afghanistan.

    They are happy to get rid of their drunk uncles, sons, … and look forward to the compensation payouts.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (7 children)
  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    You really believe this?

    Russia's "deathonomics" is a widely reported (by Wall Street Journal and others) phenomenon in Russia's poor regions.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Yeah, it's going to take more than that to convince me that a million soldiers ALL had families that didn't care about them or even are happy to see them die.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (3 children)

    Now you're going all "not all men!!"

    Yeah, some of them don't. But generally, this is something they talk about with their families before electing to go for the war.

    Those who want them to live won't let them go to die. So, those who did, are – with scarce exceptions – ones who indeed have not cared much of whether their relative will live or not.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    Not not all. Why don't you put a percentage on it. 80%, 70%? If it's more than 10%, I won't believe it and that's the way facts work now. I get to choose what I believe is a fact. Or... you could provide a valid source.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Based on conversations I have had in Russian language with Russian immigrants in Finland, I would say it's at least 80% or so.

    In the end the parents of course will be devastated, but they are much more blasé about it when the agreement is being signed. It's hard to describe this to someone who has never lived in the Russia. Or at least in Ukraine.

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