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[–] 45 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Reminds me of people that can look past concentration camps, murders carried out by ice, blatant corruption, bombing schools, and genocide but they draw the line at having to pay 2$ more for gas

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  • [+] -27 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)
  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    This is a fucking joke, right?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (6 children)

    Oh your one of those padantic losers...

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yes I'm glad you both understand and are ok with state sanctioned killing and regular murder, vary good.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    What nationality are you, out of curiosity?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Since you won’t answer my question about nationality, im going to assume you’re from a “western” country, so your excuse of having limited media access is bullshit. You’re a fucking piece of trash if you think ICE hasn’t murdered people and are going to get into a hissy fit about the definitions. You’re fucking scum and deserve to be treated as such.

    Mods, before you come deleting this comment for AbUsE, look at what this motherfucker is here commenting. Would you rather censor someone for calling someone a bad name, or for blatantly denying state sanctioned murders? Pick your hill to die on.

    Edit: His account got nuked lmaooooooo fuck you Nazi.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)
  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago

    You are batshit fucking insane. The videos are out there for the world to see. Good shot in her car while driving away from the scene, not trying to hurt any of the officers, and Pretti literally knelt down in the street and executed in the back of the head. All filmed, all major major news that every “western” country saw.

    I hope you get exactly what you deserve for being such a piece of shit human, and you deserve that absolute worst.

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    [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago

    Cuckservatives support billionaire pedophiles because that's what they aspire to be.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    A coworker says that all the problems in Paris is because Hillary has sent Antifa to cause chaos…

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah no wonder oligarchs can get away with anything when the populace is that gullible

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Side note: the person that said this just got divorced for beating his wife. And he has been looking for a girlfriend and he has a list of demands he’s wants for a future relationship.

    1. She can’t be Mexican, even though he is Mexican.
    2. she can’t be an immigrant.
    3. she can’t be a liberal.
    4. she can’t have dyed hair
    5. no tattoos.
    6. She can’t be a fan of Taylor Swift.
    7. she has to be religious, preferably Mormon.
    8. no job or any aspirations other than having kids.
    9. has to be a trump supporter.
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  • [–] 60 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    I find the looting and property damage stupid because there are plenty of Billionaires and Politicians to loot and property damage yet they primarily targeting cafes and shops.

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  • [+] 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah...that's not really possible?

    Oligarchs are very well insulated, both physically and financially. The nice part of town isn't full of billionaires. It's full of doctors and lawyers and other professionals.

    Even if you do manage to burn down a Walmart or something, chances are the financials are insulated enough that the Waltons won't even see a drop in net worth.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    One guy working alone found the United healthcare CEO. Imagine if 1000 worked together like they did to loot a small shop.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    One guy with connections and the cash on hand to put together a plan and carry it out.

    It's not impossible. But even then, most CEOs aren't billionaires. That one wasn't. The people sitting on the board of directors and majority shareholders are the billionaires.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

    About the same percentage of Americans protested against Trump in March as French protested over the weekend.

    But with 1/10 the population density, the US protests appeared smaller.

    edit: numbers were wrong - about 1/4 the population density. And the US had about 0.9% of its population participate in the March No Kings protest as opposed to France's 0.7%. So the US appears to be more active than France in protests, but they can't concentrate the majority of their protests in a single city like France can.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    The US protests are not nearly as sustained or as regulaly occurring as the French protests.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago*

    I also take umbrage with the notion that 0.9% of the population standing in a field or walking down a street would be as "active" as 0.7% of the population getting in street fights with cops and burning buildings down, even if both happened for the same amount of time.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    so they protested at a shocking 1/10 per capita. significantly lower

    edit: I can't read?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    No, they protested at the similar rate per capita. Just fewer people per square kilometer.

    France is nearly 550,000 square kilometers in size. The US is nearly 10 million square kilometers in size.

    France has about 125 people per square kilometer. The US has 34.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    media is only showing looting to gain sympathey for the right.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago

    It’s performative. Remember, everything they take time to speak up on is projection of some sort, so they’re just mad about the reasons for the protests and find it advantageous to complain about the small percentage of people taking advantage of the protests to loot and cause damage in order to distract and taint the movements they don’t like or support. They’re literally virtue signaling, another thing they like to condemn when it’s done by someone they disagree with or don’t like, but here they are sitting behind a screen typing out how they would never do property damage or enter a building without permission or when it’s against the law, despite not speaking up when it’s their “side” doing it.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    I draw the line at needless deviations from meme formats.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago

    In case anyone would be down to come to the comments of a meme and leave with further reading: In Defense of Looting: A Riotous History of Uncivil Action by Vicky Osterweil

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    pretend i have the digital image editing skills to combine these please:

    spoliered because holy fuck that took up a lot of my screen

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    the oligarchs have it made in america

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    THE TRAINS ARENT RUNNING ON TIME REEEEEEEEEE

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

    There are pros and cons, the violence and damage done in the French protests also make it easy for the rightwing to shatter solidarity among left and center voices. These protestors take the narrative the rightwing wants to push about the left and immigrants hook line and sinker without reflecting on the consequences of that, which is very very very very dangerous.

    Rightwing fascists want nothing more than this to become a fist fight, it is the only environment their shitty politics can survive in because everyone is too distracted by the violence to actually interrogate what each side is saying and determine fascists are violent and full of shit.

    You can criticize a protest like No Kings in the US for being wayyyy too deferential to the status quo, but you can also on the flipside point out that everyone who goes to a peaceful mass protest leaves knowing they are in the majority, and that a vast diversity of people have arrived at the same conclusion and desire to exert their will in a collective fashion that no significant percentage of the society resists in a rational way even if the power structures do.

    Once you start throwing bricks at the cops and burning everything down you cut the potential for solidarity into two opposing sides which isn't so say that ACAB isn't true or that the pearl clutching around property damage isn't insulting given the human suffering the protests are meant to illuminate but the vision of the social project becomes diminished once things enter that realm, you have a war at that point not a social movement.

    All that being said, I don't think the protestors are the problem, not even remotely, the inhuman conditions for the average person are the problem. I am also not trying to say a certain way of protesting is necessarily wrong, but this idea that we aren't in a struggle of primarily narrative is a sure fire way to lose catastrophically as the left which to be honest France should be alot more cognizant about given their history than they seem to be...

    We all know rightwing fascists need and deserve to be punched in the face, but if you lean into that unreflectively you make it easy for them to portray the situation as a tit for tat fight rather than an existential struggle against dehumanization.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Yep France will have a Nazi for president next year. These riots swayed many centrist voters. Like during the riots someone burned down historic buildings. One thing the French have in common is that they love their historic architecture. Though good chance some agent provacteur from Israel, US or Russia instigated it all.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    You just so badly want places to end up like america so you can feel better about your own inaction, pathetic.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Who says I'm American? Dumbass canuck, I'm Dutch and live in the Netherlands and we've seen France shift harder to the right every time these type of riots take place. France will be more like America after the presidential election next year when a Trump and Netanyahu loving Nazi takes the highest seat in office.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Retailleau the isreali is what France will have to look forward to if the left their can't pull their heads out of their asses and offer solutions to Frances mounting debts without further dismantling their social security.

    Also I assumed you were American because you sound like the cry baby lib failures that are all over the US there that just love pointing fingers when they repeatedly Fuck up and fail to do anything about their deteriorating nation, I have 0 simpathy for people who will not escalate when they are having their livelyhoods taken from them then have the gall to complain about it when nothing goes their way.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    You can criticize a protest like No Kings in the US for being wayyyy too deferential to the status quo

    I criticize them for being too small, too infrequent and too short a duration.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    ...and I criticize the France protests for feeding directly into fascist narratives that appeal to centrists in such a blatantingly stupid way.

    Both are valid lines of criticism shrugs

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    That's a fascist's secret : everything feeds into their narratives. If leftists aren't a threat to fight with heavily armed cops, they are weaklings to ignore and trample over with heavily armed cops.

    Radical politics will never please centrists. The trick is to ignore centrists and engage directly with people upset at the status quo. Give them something to believe in. Centrists will follow, as they always do, by definition. For radicals there is no such thing as bad publicity - every news story only serves to prove that they have impact.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    If leftists aren’t a threat to fight with heavily armed cops, they are weaklings to ignore and trample over with heavily armed cops.

    Why do you think that the heavily armed cops lose when they have actual enemies to focus their violence that require their skills?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Ok well that is your anecdote, the No Kings rallies have been some of the largest protests in US history and have approached the often quoted percentage of people necessary to ensure a successful social movement/revolution.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    And nothing changed? The pedo is still ordering his goons to kill citizens, they're trying to deport a member of Congress, and they're perpetuating the war in the middle east (and a myriad of other stuff).

    Where's the line? When will the Americans do anything about it?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago*

    If the US protested right now the way France is, it would result in law enforcement being given complete permission to be as violent as they want because the "violent" left has finally come that they have spent decades hammering over the US people's heads about.

    Doing something about it first and foremost means not handing power to the narratives your enemy existentially needs you to feed into to retain legitimacy amd justify lethal violence against you.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago

    No Kings is run by the same Liberal organizations that support the Democratic party. They might as well be party sponsored events. Nothing will change when the Market liberal donkeys are in charge, besides the visibility of ICE.

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    [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Because Americans literally do nothing as their form of protest. They allow the steamrolling to happen to protect their own vapid moral integrity.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

    Canadians might be worse in terms of doing nothing. The average Canadian in my experience can't even imagine politics left of the NDP (our social democrats).

    The slow slide to the right that's just beginning here feels like it's just a boring fact and not a struggle.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Yah but at least we don't vote in obvious fascists or separate under obvious foreign lobbying, your just fingerprinting to avoid facing the reality the left in America is getting walked all over.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    vote in obvious fascists

    We will eventually.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    When? stop saying 'it'll happen' just because Americans are Fuck ups and projecting their failure when it's clear it's not taking hold in Canada. If anything it's getting weaker as we watch America further fall because of this mindset. Many in my life that first though maga and Donald were great and done a 180 having seen what a monumental failure of governance he's perpetrated, stop getting sucked into those failed liberals doomerism.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    It definitely is beginning to happen with immigrants, indigenous people, and trans people. We're like 20 years off from it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Wtf are you talking about, there has been no backsliding here in Canada, you sound like a maga nutcase when Joe was in office going on about lonni shit with no base in reality. The only thing we reduced was immigration and it improved youth job numbers. That's the only thing that's changed. You can blame Justin for that, mass importing laborer by over half a mill a year. It's not like we're dragging people off to concentration camps like ice are.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    You sound exactly like some conservative who'd complain about "immigrants shitting on beaches" or something like that, so why should I trust you on this?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Because you can look up studys on this, or you can continue living in a bubble, just like the magats down in the USA. Just because I don't blindly choke down every liberal talking point doesn't mean I'm a con, fool.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    I wish they did nothing. But no, they go to work and pay taxes and take a vacation day to go to a protest. Doing nothing, i.e. a general strike, might actually accomplish something.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    What makes anybody think an American who condemns the looting in France approves of everything that's wrong in America?

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