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[–] 74 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There's also the episode where they find the guy who needs to check his stocks, and Picard explains that in the future people behave like adults.

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  • [–] 55 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

    Sometimes they do. In the episodes where they de/activate the self-destruct sequence, the captain has to give their authorization code. The fact that they have to give it verbally in front of everyone isn't ideal though.

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  • [–] 44 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

    It’s a voice print, so it doesn’t matter who else knows it. Unless it’s Data.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 weeks ago

    Speaking of Data, his existence anywhere near that ship's bridge is a humongous breach of all sorts of security to begin with. He's a not-very-well-understood piece of tech that's been proven to have at least one hidden backdoor into his brains that can let others assume direct control over him and use him to do some exteremely dangerous things. Letting him into the bridge of such an important ship and giving him such high clearance is just insane.

    But of course why worry about Data given the captain himself and his history with the Borg. In other words it's Star Trek, so whatever. The show must go on.

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  • [+] 12 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)
  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (11 children)

    Then how can Data assume control of the ship just by using other people’s voices and codes?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Data has no biometrics and is therefore exempt?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

    But wouldn’t the computer then a) never recognize any command given by Data (as Data)?, and 2) not recognize any command from Data pretending to be someone else because that someone else is elsewhere in the ship?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Data quietly says "sudo" before most stuff he does?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (5 children)

    Then what does he say prior to sudo?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    "listen here you little shit"?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    But then he has to say sudo prior to that! 🤔😜

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    i just decided when i programming language i'm renaming sudo to fucking.

    >do [program]
    invalid command or syntax
    >fucking [program]
    [appropriate output]
    

    just feels more fun

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Or unless it's anyone with a tape recorder

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Well they didn't discover DNA in the trek verse for quite a while so they got really really good at voiceprint analysis instead

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I could see DNA and all genetic technology becoming vorboten for a while after the Eugenics Wars.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    I mean the fact that la'ans family still has the surname is some pretty dark storytelling in a watsonian sense. Normally they'd change that shit in a heartbeat. The fact they haven't suggests a preventative mechanism, probably for monitoring purposes. There's also the bigotry exhibited during Una's trial right down even to Bashir's. Humanity has some deep fuckin' trauma there

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    There's also apparently some manner of voice print analysis as well. Because in whatever episode that was when Data goes rogue, he has to mimic Picard's voice to do command stuff and set up the self destruct.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    The episode where Moriarty came about was because Geordi tried to vibe code an opponent for Data and the ships computer just made a sentient hologram.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yup... Create an adversary for Data, not Create an adversary that beats Sherlock Holmes.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    They did require admin logins, but they also implemented a bimonthly password change, so there were post-its on all the monitors.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Lol, my company has daily, there's no way I can remember without writing it down. But hey, it'll be invalid the next day so it's all good

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    That's how you end up using password 001 thru password365 every year

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    You don't get to choose it though, that's why there's no way in hell I'll remember. Unless it happened to be easy that day and I used it multiple times

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    If you aren't setting the password, how are they sending the password to you?

    Seems like they may not have a very good concept of the point of a password.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    There're multiple layers, I don't wanna give too much details lol. But basically things like, assigned computer, office network, phone or physical multifactor keys, etc.

    I'm ok with everything except the generated password because it's a hassle.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    I had a thought a while ago on why everything goes wrong for starfleet. All their officers are vibe coding. The warp core is vibe coded. The weapons are vibe coded. The holodeck is vibe coded. It's why the safety protocols are always getting turned off.

    It's made obvious when they design the Runabout in Voyager.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Honestly been thinking about this. Everytime someone talks about "programming the holodeck" and they do it in like... 20 minutes, I have to assume that the "programming" was

    "Make me a Sherlock Holmes larp. Make no mistakes"

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    After WWIII, the writings of Richard Stallman became the guiding principles of computing.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    They do, tho. It's just we usually see events through the lens of characters that have admin access. Or are badass enough to hack them when they don't. Or both, like that episode where Data goes rogue and sets the longest lockout password ever.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    And they use biometrics on everything, Data did have to speak in Picard's voice as I recall.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    1 – 7 – 3 – 4 – 6 – 7 – 3 – 2 – 1 – 4 – 7 – 6 – Charlie – 3 – 2 – 7 – 8 – 9 – 7 – 7 – 7 – 6 – 4 – 3 – Tango – 7 – 3 – 2 – Victor – 7 – 3 – 1 – 1 – 7 – 8 – 8 – 8 – 7 – 3 – 2 – 4 – 7 – 6 – 7 – 8 – 9 – 7 – 6 – 4 – 3 – 7 – 6

    Lock.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)
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    In some versions of Star Trek, I'm sure they've said that the first few presses somebody makes on a console is them logging in.

    The systems were designed similar to military installations contemporary to when they were written, with the expectation that unauthorized people were not supposed to have access to certain areas in the first place.

    Of course, now it seems stupid. My car has more security just using my phone as the key. They could easily have used their badges as credentials at the very least. Realistically, with their tech, the computer should just know everybody's identities and everybody's locations at all times, even without badges, and should be able to control access using that information.

    But just imagine if they used that sort of tech. Every time somebody was in a prison cell, the computer would be analyzing what they were doing, and alert security the moment they started trying to break out, for example. So many episodes would end before they started.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

    Zapp Brannigan: IT security is for sissies!

    All the love for the dolls here, I just had to get this dumb and slightly altered Futurama quote out of my brain after reading the meme.

    What really cracked me up recently was this screenshot, being a musician and an Ableton user myself, and again, all the love for the dolls!

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)
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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

    I was randomly listening to this just yesterday:
    https://tidal.com/browse/album/3614861?u

    I saw him live a long while ago (https://www.concertarchives.org/concerts/rave-on-the-rocks--2)
    edit: fixed link

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Unfortunately I couldn't access the first link despite many login options since I dodged all 'murica fuck yeah services after the 2nd time your people were daft enough to vote the Orang'Wutan into office.

    Second link gave me a 404 error, unfortunately.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    No worries (and don't blame you). It's a link to the album 'Aphrodite - Aftershock', a classic Jungle artist from the 90s/00s.

    The second lists a concert I went to:
    Rave on the Rocks
    Paul Oakenfold / Static Revenger / DJ Aphrodite / BT
    Jul 21, 2000 (26 years ago)
    Red Rocks Amphitheatre

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Good morning. Finally back home after my morning walk in the dark with Ms Fluffydog. I can now enjoy the album by Aphrodite. It's good and reminds me a lot of the first Prodigy album (Experience).

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I like to think technology is so advanced that security features are impossible to implement because penetrating them is trivial.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    No, it's really so writers didn't have to work too hard to come up with storylines that a late 20th century TV audience would be able to understand.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    These episodes came out in the late 80s and early 90s, when cybersecurity wasn’t really even a “thing”. Yet, even then, when I was seven or eight or nine, I knew enough about computer programming to implement, at the very least, passwords before executing certain commands.

    It was hard, sometimes, not to think of these people as fucking idiots

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Jake gets pissed off at Nog because for some reason they don't have headphones anymore.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    To be fair, wasn't he attempting some kind of acoustic calibration that required the music to be played out loud?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Yes, but I'm talking about after he lost his leg, not the baseball card. He kept listening to the Vic recording and eventually went down to the club. But if he did have cans, he never would have stayed with Vic nor learned his valuable life lesson.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago*

    IIRC at least one ship-threatening holodeck malfunction was the result of enhancements made by the Binars during a system overhaul, which is like Google having unsuperviised contractors work on their live site. Apparently the Federation has no concept of dev/test/prod environments.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    The most unrealistic thing about Star Trek is that the engineering team are in charge of the computer. That's why nothing never works, those guys hate the concept of passwords.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    the borg also has no security on thier ships, unless they start seeing them as assimilate or as a threat.

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    [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Maybe all of their computers were compromised by the government on purpose like ours.

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